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@Alsark

Whenever you want to feel free to fix any of the text, or make apropriat changes to LoR light 0.9.5. Hope you're feeling better BTW. Also we could really use a rewrite of Reagan, the current civilopedia text is pure propaganda.

@Merri

glider1 has said he'd include finish in the RevDCM core, so if you want to work on that for him and upload him the updated text for RevDCM would be cool. If not I'll eventually get around to submitting him the uploaded text from LoR that RevDCM uses. I figure you might want to do this for RevDCM though yourself, as RevDCM is the core for this as well as many other mods, woudl be cool to have it include Finish by default.
 
Well 0.9.5 is going to be released soon. I've done all the coding I can until jdog responds, so mainly waiting on Achilliszero to finish with the art. Since I haven't heard back from you guys I'll go ahead and start working on the missing civilopedia entries while achilliszero works on the art. Let me know if either of you are picking up or working on the civilopedia so that we don't end up doing double the work, but for now I'll assume all of it is stuff I need to work on.
 
Well 0.9.5 is going to be released soon. I've done all the coding I can until jdog responds, so mainly waiting on Achilliszero to finish with the art.

Were always waiting on me, huh. I havent even torn apart the CityLPlot yet. Just about done with the units though. Need to check last few civs, then give it a quick once over (twice over rather).
 
Well, I'd rather clone the Civic Rev tags into TraitInfos anyway, but I'm not sure jdog will respond. And it's his esoteric code, so I can't ask for help from someone else, and it's damn near impossible to figure out. So assuming he doesn't respond, we are waiting on the art. If he does though, it may take another week for me to get the code working if I know where to start. Also you're doing alot more work then me on this release, so it should take longer. And anyway the civilopedia entries need to get done as well, which will take a couple of days probably as well. I'm shooting for the end of the weekend, at least that seems like a good round timeframe to release 0.9.5. I'm not in a rush. Mainly I just posted here so that if Alsark and Merri are doing any civilopedia entries they let me know so I don't double any work.
 
FYI, I'm taking part into a short game coding contest, two and a half weeks still to go (out of total four weeks). It is quite interesting to choose to make a console style RPG in such a short period of time with a story and all.
 
Aha! This time in the right place. :) Have just pulled a quick selection, will put more time into this. Possible quotes as follows:

AI -

"As a sentient life form, I hereby demand political asylum." - GITS

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity." - Anonymous

"Turing Test Extra Credit: Convince the examiner that he's a computer" - XKCD

Gas Turbine -

"I sell here, Sir, what all the world desires to have - power." - Matthew Boulton

"One has to watch out for engineers - they begin with the sewing machine and end up with the atomic bomb." - Marcel Pagnol

"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair." - Douglas Adams

Quantum Mechanics -

"The important thing in science is not so much to obtain new facts as to discover new ways of thinking about them." - Willam Lawrence Bragg

"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." - Richard Feynman.

"If I could explain it to the average person, I wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize." - Richard Feynman.

Seafaring -

"And the sea will grant each man new hope, as sleep brings dreams of home." - Christopher Columbus.

Smart Matter -

"My greatest concern is that the emergence of this technology without the appropriate public attention and international controls could lead to an unstable arms race." - K. Eric Drexler

Turret Design -

"The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" - Randall Jarrell

From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.



For Smart Matter are you intending it to be seen as MEMS or Nanotechnology? There is a difference. There are a multitude of quotes pertaining to nanotechnology, much less for mems.

Cyrano
 
Smart Matter is more of a future type structrural or material inovation of undefined type. It's origin is based off of some reading I have done on quantum dotting, which can replicate atomic/molecular behavior with directed electrons. But it can just as easily be used to describe any futeristic and extraordinary inovation that produces a "supermaterial".
 
Smart Matter is more of a future type structrural or material inovation of undefined type. It's origin is based off of some reading I have done on quantum dotting, which can replicate atomic/molecular behavior with directed electrons. But it can just as easily be used to describe any futeristic and extraordinary inovation that produces a "supermaterial".

So its a little different from what I thought. The smart matter I was looking into was more on the engineering side of things, Instead of actuall material/physics side.
 
Really it's such a new field that what you're envisioning in game I think is a combination of what each of us is talking about.

Smart matter is another term for micro-electromechanical systems (MEMS), a technology that combines computers with tiny mechanical devices such as sensors, valves, gears, mirrors, and actuators imbedded in semiconductor chips.

In general, quantum wires, wells and dots are grown by advanced epitaxial techniques in nanocrystals produced by chemical methods or by ion implantation, or in nanodevices made by state-of-the-art lithographic techniques.

So there are combinations of quantum dots, engineering.... the possible applications are staggering. The fact it's already in use is scary enough. If you're after something more futuristic in game you'd better decide quick, sci fi is becoming fact. :p

If nothing else you have certainly had me reading some lectures and essays I wouldn't have stumbled over in a hurry! :D

Cyrano
 
@Alsark

Whenever you want to feel free to fix any of the text, or make apropriat changes to LoR light 0.9.5. Hope you're feeling better BTW. Also we could really use a rewrite of Reagan, the current civilopedia text is pure propaganda.

Sure thing. Are the XML files from the 0.9.5 light download in the thread the most recent files I should be using?

And sorry to take so long to get back to this - I just got back from a week long vacation to Florida.
 
Sure thing. Are the XML files from the 0.9.5 light download in the thread the most recent files I should be using?

And sorry to take so long to get back to this - I just got back from a week long vacation to Florida.

Yeah were supposed to be using 0.9.5 Light as the base to build off of. But Phungus said he was starting on some text, so I dont know exactly what hes done so far.
 
Yeah were supposed to be using 0.9.5 Light as the base to build off of. But Phungus said he was starting on some text, so I dont know exactly what hes done so far.

Oh, I see. I guess I should wait a bit to see what he has started on before I go on ahead and redo work that has already been done. Thanks for letting me know!
 
I haven't started, was waiting to hear back from you. Actually I was about to start working on it now, but I just heard back from jdog, which opens up the code I want to work on. So I'll defer to your skills and write ups Alsark, and will now start working on cloning some of the Civic Revolution modifiers into Traits. And yes 0.9.5 is the development base to work off of, that's the main reason it's there.
 
I haven't started, was waiting to hear back from you. Actually I was about to start working on it now, but I just heard back from jdog, which opens up the code I want to work on. So I'll defer to your skills and write ups Alsark, and will now start working on cloning some of the Civic Revolution modifiers into Traits. And yes 0.9.5 is the development base to work off of, that's the main reason it's there.

Gotcha! Thanks for letting me know!

So from what I've gathered what we need, text-wise, is as follows:

Abu Bakar Pedia, El Cid Pedia, and Xerxes Pedia, as well as a re-write of the Reagen Pedia.

Is that correct?

Also, were we going to use that Pathfinder legendary unit? I remember that being mentioned, so I wasn't sure if something needed to be written up on that.

I noticed some small typos here and there with some of the existing entries so I'll be making some small tweaks to some units, too if I have time. My priority now though is the three new leaders and the Pathfinder if that is being included.

Tomorrow isn't the greatest for me since I have work and a friend wants to hang out (since I just got back from Florida). I'll have Tuesday and Wednesday open, though, so I'll have some stuff written for them then for sure.
 
Wayfinder wol't make it into the upcoming release. So basically yes, the new leaderheads and any typos are the only text issues that are currently needed, and have high priority. I know it'll take me a couple days to finish doing what I want to do now that I have some idea where to start, and Achilleszero may take a bit while longer to finish up the art stuff, so there is no immediate rush. There is some low priority text things that eventually need doing as well. LoR needs quotes for the added techs. And we need diplo text for the new leaders, pretty much all of them except Meiji and Hitler don't have their own diplo text, I'll deal with the diplomacyInfos file, but the actual things they say could be worked on if you want, just putting that out there if that sounds interesting not I'll get around to it eventually. Can't think of anything else.
 
Wayfinder wol't make it into the upcoming release. So basically yes, the new leaderheads and any typos are the only text issues that are currently needed, and have high priority. I know it'll take me a couple days to finish doing what I want to do now that I have some idea where to start, and Achilleszero may take a bit while longer to finish up the art stuff, so there is no immediate rush. There is some low priority text things that eventually need doing as well. LoR needs quotes for the added techs. And we need diplo text for the new leaders, pretty much all of them except Meiji and Hitler don't have their own diplo text, I'll deal with the diplomacyInfos file, but the actual things they say could be worked on if you want, just putting that out there if that sounds interesting not I'll get around to it eventually. Can't think of anything else.

Yeah. I've noticed when I come across a lot of the new leaders they don't say anything at all. Actually I'd say Hitler's quotes could be a bit more... personalized... but maybe people would just take offense to that, so perhaps not. I remember meeting Hitler and him saying something about singing Kumbaya together and I was like, "... What? Hitler totally wouldn't say that."

Hm... I don't know any of these leaders well enough to type up custom messages for any of them, I don't think (though Hitler would be easy). I mean aside from what I've read on their Wikipedia entries - but that isn't much to go off of when it comes to their mannerisms in conversation. Most of the leaders pretty much use the same messages, right? However, I definitely do think it would be interesting to have custom quotes for the leaders. I can try to think of some for some of the leaders, but I don't think I'd be much of any good at that.
 
phungus: I had the time to take a look into the strings and you've changed one file since I posted the files. El Cid, Xerges and that third guy I can't remember right now lack Finnish tags. Fix that and Finnish then works properly.

If there are no other changes into the next release I can provide an updated set of files before you compile things together.
 
OK, I'm sure Alsark will get to that when he creates the civilopedia references for those leaders. Honestly the best thing for you to do would be to take up glider on his offer, and submit him the stuff he needs to add Finnish to RevDCM, that way any updates for RevDCM will include Finnish by default and I wol't be stuck trying to merge stuff next time RevDCM is updated.
 
Yep, I'll add Finnish tags when I'm adding the leaders. I have Abu Bakr done. Here's a rough draft:

Alsark said:
Abu Bakr As-Siddiq was one of the earliest coverters to Islam and a friend of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Upon Muhammad's death in 632 AD he became the first Muslim ruler. Although some tribes rebelled, he was able to eventually establish Islamic rule over all of Arabia, Syria, and Iraq.

Abu Bakr was born in the year 573, under the name Abdullah, to a rather wealthy family, though he led a pretty normal childhood. He, like many Arab children, spent time amongst the Bedouins, or "people of the camel." As such, he developed a liking for camels. Due to this, he earned the name Abu Bakr, which means "father of the foal of the camel." Throughout his remaining childhood and teenage years he continued to travel extensively among caravans, and eventually became a cloth merchant himself.

During one of Abu Bakr's trips to Yemen, he was informed that Muhammed, his neighbor, declared himself as the Messenger of God, and proclaimed a new religion. There is some debate as to whether or not Abu Bakr was the first adult male to convert to Sunni Islam, but he was certainly one of the first. After becoming a Muslim himself he worked hard to convert others to the Islamic faith. Having an Islamic family was so important to Abu Bakr that he divorced his first wife (who refused to convert to Islam) and separated from one of this sons (who also refused to convert). He also felt deeply for slaves who had converted to Islam, and bought eight slaves, only to set them free.

Muslims kept their faith secret for three years after the advent of Islam, but in 613 Muhammad decided that all Muslims should proclaim their faith openly. Abu Bakr was the first person to make a public address inviting people to offer allegienace to Muhammad. This led to many members of the Quraysh tribe, a dominant tribe in Mecca, to assault Abu Bakr. The Quraysh also led a boycott against the Banū Hāshim, which was Muhammad's clan within the tribe. This shut out all interaction with Muhammad's clan. Although the Qarah tribe offered their protection to the Banū Hāshim for some time, pressure from the Quraysh eventually caused them to renounce their protection.

In 622 Muhammad ordered Muslims to migrate to Medina due to an invitation from the Muslims there. In Medina Muhammad decided to construct a mosque. The land that this mosque (named Al-Masjid al-Nabawi) would be placed on was purchased by Abu Bakr, who also took part in the construction. Here, he married the daughter of Khaarij ah bin Zaid Ansari, who was Abu Bakr's brother in faith, and Abu Bakr's daughter, Aisha, married Muhammad. Abu Bakr also continued his cloth business in Medina, which flourished.

In 624 Abu Bakr was involved in his first battle between the Muslims and the Quraysh known as the Battle of Badr, where he acted as a guard for Muhammad's tent. Although the Muslims won a decisive victory at this battle, they lost the Battle of Uhud, which was almost exactly a year later. In 627 he participted in both the Battle of the Trench and the Battle of the Banu Qurayza, both of which were Muslim victories. He also participated in the 628 Treaty of Hudaybiyyah as a witness over the pact. In the following years he took part in several other battles, where he was in the Muslim army.

After Muhammad's death the Meccan immigrants (the Muhajirun) and the Medinan converts (the Ansar) threatened to split the nation. The Ansar decided to hold a meeting to discuss who they would support as their new leader. Abu Bakr and a few others rushed to the meeting in order to stop a premature decision. Umar, a friend of Abu Bakr's (and his eventual successor), declared that Abu Bakur should be the new leader. As a result, Abu Bakr became the first Muslim caliph, who was given the title Khalifa-tul-Rasool (meaning "Successor of messenger of Allah").

Abu Bakr's Caliphate lasted for 27 months. During this time he crushed Arab rebels in the campaign against Apostasy (also known as the Ridda Wars). He also launched campaigns against the Sassanid Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire, two of the most powerful empires at the time. Although he did not conquer all of this territory in the time of his Caliphate, his decision to attack these territories would lead to the creation of one of the largest empires in history within just a few decades.

On August 8th, 634, Abu Bakr became deathly ill. One account says that he had developed his illness on a cold day while taking a bath, while another says he was given a poison during a meal that did not take effect for a year. So as not to create disagreements after his death, Abu Bakr decided to name Umar as his successor. Although there is dispute among the Sunni and Shi'a, and perhaps some Western views, as to Abu Bakr's character, there is no doubt that he sparked the fire in the formation of one of the world's largest empires and was an important figure in the Islam faith.
 
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