The Battlefront 2 saga

The bethesda thing seems dubious considering how they keep trying to introduce paid mods into skyrim.
 
Very true. Its encouraging though that publishers themselves are either trying to consolidate what they have, or making a point about not being like that at all (Red Hook studios - who said they will leave "Greed to others"). It should also serve as a stark warning about what can happen should that type of system be employed. It woudlnt surprise me if some games in development are currently being "tweaked".

In some ways ii understand why Disney would go to a publisher like EA with an exclusive. They have access to probably the widest selection of talent when it comes to designing types of game: Mobile games, shooters, sports etc. But a small part of me would yearn for a star wars title published by red hook. If they were given the rights to KOTOR or something similar, they could create something magnificent.
 
The sad thing about Bethesda and paid mods is that it is actually a great concept in theory. Imagine giving mod creators who have proven to have great ideas access to resources and professional game designers who can help them put their ideas into a framework that can properly be implemented. If you can actually bring those mods up to the standard of the actual game (which isn't very high for Bethesda games :p), that would surely be something worth paying for, a semi-professional, curated alternative to free mods.

Instead, Bethesda first attempts to just turn a medium that was free before into a cashgrab without taking any responsibility for the quality of the products, and then in the second attempts pushes out the Creation Club which is just a collection of mini-Payments, worthless garbage that adds little to nothing to the game, and most of it has already been done better by free mods.
 
I'm bumping this, as things are now getting interesting. 1 year on, and the battle front 2 fiasco is still felt by the gaming community. And reprocussions are now afoot.

Belgium, the Netherlands, and a reported 16 other EU countries are now examining the issue (and Washington). And EA, with it's golden goose of FIFA on the chopping block, is fighting the decision the Belgian authorities have taken - which is to classify loot boxes as gambling (or a form there of). So these are interesting times indeed. I sincerely hope they rule against EA. I've never played competitive online games really. But I can certainly see that loot box inclusion, if implemented here, would be a very bad thing for gaming as a whole, and it's a worthy cause to fight against. I myself have contacted my member of parliament, met him on a few occasions, and discussed the issue.

Anyway, I think EA will lose, and I also think their entire business model is wrong - along with 2ks. Something like 70% of their revenue is generated by this horse ****. Mostly as a result of their sports franchises - NBA2K and FIFA. And you cut that off, then what's left? A mediocre company that doesn't actually make good games.

For the sake of the industry, and for the sake of gaming, I think it's high time gaming moved from silicon valley to other shores. Money corrupts, and too many American companies are quite literally taking the piss. 2k even had the audacity to ask it's Belgian "fans" to lobby their government to turn the fudging things back on.

No to loot boxes! No to micro transactions in premium games! And no to their bull ****!
 
Im bumping this:

:bump:

Mostly as it marks what i consider to be the beginning of the end of 3 years worth of work. When this story first announced itself - i was angry - very angry. I went to go and see my member of parliament. I wrote letters and emails to politicians. I complained and argued. Seems as though they may have listened. And that is in many ways a beautiful thing. I shall put my letter i wrote to the BBC up here, merely for closure, but i think it important to offer hope that things can be changed (or given the option of) if the right course of action is taken. It might not always be easy, or fast, but usually its the best way of making a difference.


I went to see my MP about this issue a few years ago now and have kept in correspondence with him since then. And i could not be happier with this outcome. I am a 30 something gamer. I grew up with computer games. And having watched how gaming has expanded into new mediums, some of the tactics employed in those mediums started to be deployed in the mature marketplace i frequented. I am of course talking about mobile gaming - and the pseudo gambling mechanics where players (a large part of whom are kids) are targeted by essentially rolling the dice to gain power within these games. The games industry believed they could start to push this into the more mature market spaces. And EA in particular thought the time was ripe to push pseudo gambling into triple A releases.

See the following for how this developed and the man responsible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLFNlu2N_M&t=689s

This was most profoundly seen with the release of Battlefront II. The backlash was huge. The comment by an EA community manager is still i believe the most downvoted comment in Reddit history - and is something of a continuing meme amongst gamers. Their sense of "pride and accomplishment" really must be quite something now that law lords and regulators will be descending on their business practices. And serves them damn well right in my view.

Most of this would not have been possible were it not for the efforts of two people in particular. The first is the late John Bain - AKA TotalBiscuit. He talked extensively about this and helped raise awareness about the issue. Sadly he lost his battle with cancer (the BBC had it as their front page - so clearly he had reached a fame beyond most ordinary Youtube personalities). But the mark he left on the gaming industry is profound. And in specific relevance to this issue, i direct you to the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDGPSWWA18&t=585s

The other man is Jim Sterling. Who i am happy to say is still alive and kicking and fighting the good fight in terms of consumers and industry employment rights. He was talking about this way before anyone else. And he above all others probably has the most credit to take for things like this. His most relevant video on this matter is the one immediately after the Battlefront II fiasco - found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLDid1UNyg8

There are of course many others. And a small army of mature gamers, myself included, have been banging the drum for the past few years trying to call this out for what it is - gambling. One only need look at the rotten filth they produce as promotional material. Games which are targeted at kids and make literally no attempt to hide how they are using gambling mechanisms to target vulnerable people. The video in question is of Joe Vargas - AKA Angry Joe - another stalwart against egregious monetisation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-BuUqsd71w&t=326s

As for me - many of my friends who game have had or probably would have had a gambling problem. We instead directed ourselves towards gaming as we saw it as a safe medium where we could enjoy the "thrill to win" in a non harmful and far less damaging way than by gambling. And we looked on in horror as our entertainment form of choice was being poisoned from the inside by companies like EA and its CEO Andrew Wilson who were trying to push the psychological buttons that we had collectively tried to neuter.

So in conclusion. Is this a good thing - Absolutely yes! My one regret is that parasites like Andrew Wilson wont be thrown in jail. The media and politicians (Donald Trump) swarm all over video games when they have violent or sexual content - despite that content being in abundance in other forms of media. And claim it causes mass shootings or all sorts of other nonsense, even though there is literally no proof and consecutive studies have shown that their is no causal link. But when it comes to ACTUAL gambling ACTUALLY targeted at kids it has seemed at times that society has some sort of collective amnesia. Thankfully this looks as though it is being rectified now. And long may it continue.
 
Back
Top Bottom