The cossacks conversion collection

First, at what distance can a grenadier throw is grenade, compared to the range of a musket? Giving them a bombard rating seems highly unreallistic to me. I prefer to give a high attack rating to Grenadiers.
Second, the grenades were not used for a very long period of time actually. Grenadiers kept the name, but not the weapon.

In my mod, Grenadier and Musketeer are two different lines.
Harquebuse comes with Fire arms, then Musket (and pikes) with Renaissance tactics, then Musketeer with Regimental Organization, then Fusillier with National Army, and then Riflemen with Military Tradition.
Grenadier comes with Assault troop (it requires explosives), and then upgrade to Guard (who also comes with National Army), and much later then can be upgraded to Engineer.

I don't think we should go down to the details of matchlock of flintlock, and use more general concept for the techs, but you can still include in the civilopedia references to matchlock and flintlock when explaining for instance what lead to Renaissance tactis.
 
Originally posted by Mawfia1
Has anyone considered having two advances; one for the invention of the matchlock and another for its innovation into the flintlock?

Absolutely -- the only munit I use is Kryten's Tercio, as I feel that separating early musketeers from their protective pikemen is unrealistic.

The upgrade path I personally use is:

GUNPOWDER = early primitive cannon (including H'wacha and stone-throwing bombards -- ca. 14th century)
METAL CANNON = well, like it says ... early field & siege pieces
SHOULDER ARMS = matchlock = musket&pike (the tercio was the elite Spanish implementation of that formation)
NEW MODEL ARMY = increased firepower et. al. (i.e., wheellocks & some of these fine Cossacks conversions!)
REGIMENTATION = flintlocks
INDUSTRIALIZATION = rifles

-Oz
 
I've finished uploading the musketeer: Dutch, Portuguese and French. I've forgotten to resere a slot for the French, so the download link is with the 17c musketeer.
Next step: finish the grenadiers.
 
I've finished uploading the musketeer: Dutch, Portuguese and French. I've forgotten to resere a slot for the French, so the download link is with the 17c musketeer.
I see that you're too modest to mention that you've also finished the Swedish 18c Musketeer last night... :goodjob: and that's the one I've been waiting for most eagerly! Now it's time to line up my trusty Carolines and avenge the peace of Nystad 1721...
För Gud, Konungen och Fäderneslandet, gå på marsch!!!
:viking:
 
well, steph. hope you dont get mad if i copy your techs style in order to add this units. :-)
 
Originally posted by Mawfia1
Has anyone considered having two advances; one for the invention of the matchlock and another for its innovation into the flintlock?
Kal-el's DyP mod has had that set up for about a year now.
 
Originally posted by Knight_Bond007
well, steph. hope you dont get mad if i copy your techs style in order to add this units. :-)

Not at all, that's why I made them public in the first time!
 
Originally posted by OmniMower
Jesus f*cking christ!!!! I have the Swedish units at last!!! MANY THANX to those who made it possible!!!

Looking forward to the Grenadier to be done!!!

/Omni

But but... where can I find them? The Swedish units... :crazyeye:
 
Oh, I thought they were finished, or?
Yep they are, and they're downloadable from those posts I linked to, graphics and INI-files :D
Whenever the excellent Monsieur Steph or one of his staff (I mean his co-workers or partners-in-crime) is finished with a unit they edit the post of that unit and add a download link.

Gå på marsch! :viking:
 
Originally posted by Wolfhart

Yep they are, and they're downloadable from those posts I linked to, graphics and INI-files :D
Whenever the excellent Monsieur Steph or one of his staff (I mean his co-workers or partners-in-crime) is finished with a unit they edit the post of that unit and add a download link.

Gå på marsch! :viking:

Sorry about that, I see them now. :p

Man those units are truly awesome!

Thanks for your help btw, appreciate it!
 
Thanks for your help btw, appreciate it!
Don't thank me, I'm driven by a perverted desire to see as many computers as possible invaded by Swedish troops :crazyeye:

If you want more I recommend the Carolean Unit Library collected by the outstanding Mr OmniMower (a big thanks to you Omni for this!); they have links to all swedish units done so far except the Stridsfordon 9040 made by utahjazz7 (which undoubtedly will be included soon... ;))

Cheers :viking:
 
anothere question : difference between riflemen and grenadier?
wich come first? can grenadiers be used instead of riflemen? are they different?

and pikes come after pikeman, right?
 
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