The end of Civ3 is now here.

Civ3 dying? I've been visiting this forum...well not everyday but regularly, and I've noticed the number of visitors to the civ3 and civ2 forums have gone UP!

My message is: KEEP CIVILIZATION III ALIVE!!! (at least till I get civ4). I'm a new-comer to modding civ3 (even though I've been playing for 3 years) and I want somewhere to publish my maps.
 
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http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116532
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94589
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112401
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=89296
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127395
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127962
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119970
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=125666
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128101
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126200
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=108383
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132460
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=89167
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=99738
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=122121
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=113423
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133090
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101243
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=131337
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115557


and one more thing: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126921 (notice the date)
 
Well, I probably mentioned this a hundred times already, but I'm definetely moving to CivIV, at least not anytime soon. I have the same problem with it I had with other great Strategy games, which were IMO ruined after they were converted to 3D, such as SinCity and Warcraft. The games themselves may have gotten new characteristics which made them more realistic, or more fun, but at the end, the conjunction of some bad features with heavy and ugly graphics didn't work for me. I still eventually play SC4 and WCIII, but not nearly as much as I play the older versions of both.
Regarding just to graphics, I always felt there was a special magic about 2D graphics, which isn't present in 3D, but might still be in games like CivIII, which makes use of 3D generated graphics in a 2D (but 3D looking) environment.

Now, even though I'd like to play CIV to try some of its new features (the good ones to see if they are as good as they sound, as well as the bad ones, to see if they are as bad as they seem to be), I find some of them might just spoil the fun for me. The fact that artillery works in an awful way is an example of that.

So, in the meanwhile, I'll just resort to playing some CIII games and mods, specially some similar to the Native American one: mostly changing the graphics to suit some specific area and era, as well as the tech tree, units, etc. There was some talk about doing an Asian one, which sounded quite interesting at the time. So, if anyone's up to the challenge.... ;)
 
Well Civ4 is in its height right now because its new and people are just
dead serious anticipating it right now because they want to see whats new in its features:) but the thing is if it can't be mod or costumize new units and others then it will become unpopular after you play it with a couple of months or so...after maybe it release another patch that it can costumize new units or added features that will gain back the craving 4 it

same thing happen to me when i got both civ2 and civ3 but i do most prefer civ2 because its so much addictive to play:D but until i stumble to this site and see that i can add units then i turn to more on civ3...new kind of units like playing and learning history all at the same time:goodjob:
 
I just wanna throw my 2 cents in here...

The idea that a game as big as Civ3 can die is ridiculous...is everyone gonna tell me that when the Game Cube was released, everyone stopped playing with the N64 or even the old nintendo??...Try to pretend that NOONE plays Mario Brothers anymore, I dare you

There are things about Civ3 that cant be redone in Civ4, like those awful units...The fact that Civ4 cant be heavily modded yet, to me(IMO) means that creaters like Civ Army, and DPII will either be back to Civ3, or end up shelling out big bucks for progs...

IMO the community of Civ3 will remain, and though many people will surely try Civ4, IMO they will be back once the depth of modability has been explored...
at the same time, Im sure we will lose some people, but gain others...

I personally have no intention to leave, as I have spent many hours on my quest to learn unit creation, and will not have that go for naught...and I like making buildings...even if noone uses them
 
From what I've seen of message chatter in the Civ IV forums, it looks like my prediction of Civ IV = MoO III is coming true (and I have $100 that says that it will be the case).

As for me, even though I have a computer that can Run games like No One Lives Forever II, Halo PC and Unreal Tournament 2k4 flawlessly in high-detail mode, I'm not buying Civ IV until:

1) The modability issues are addressed. There is no way in hell I'm buying 3D studio Max just to make some crappy low-poly figures for Civ IV, not to mention that me and programming languages get along about as well as oil and water.

2) The game proves not to be MoO III. From what I've seen of the "strength" and broken artillery crap, it looks like its going that way.

3) providing conditions 1 and 2 are met, I'm not buying the game until Civ IV complete comes out (which will be around 2009, judging by current expansion release trends), so I don't spend $120 when I could just buy the whole enchilada for $60.

Therefore, Civ III will be around (at least in my case) for another four years or so. I'm also not abandoning Civ III until the FF mod is done, and I can do my MoO: Stranded mod done as well (and I haven't even started on that mod aside from some leaderheads).

If worse comes to worst, I'm converting my mods to Steph's Stratgical Simulation, and going with that.
 
Exactly!when i bought civ4 got some problem installing it until it budge in..
Then i played it..i was in awe by the game but i'm also in awe of how much time will the unit creators gonna spend creating new units if its possible in due time:D same thing i played 4 the first time civ3 very different from civ2
but the thing is i played over and over(some times defeated sometimes winning)it got me bored with the same leaderheads and units until i buy PTW and C3C and started mass downloading of units etc.
 
I'm not planning to jump ship and just make creations for Civ IV. I'll be in the Civ III community for a very long time. However, after Anno Domini is uploaded (most likely this Tuesday/Wednesday), my next project will probably to create a leaderhead for Civ IV, possibly someone like Boudicca (who remains my most downloaded Civ III creation). Civ IV ships in the UK on Friday (or so I'm led to believe), so I'll be expecting that this time next week, I'll be investigating how the new leaderheads work. This, however, will just be to expand and test my own abilities, so please don't think just because I'm creating something for Civ IV, that's it for Civ III.
It might be a while before we start seeing sufficient custom units/leaderheads etc to make the detailed scenarios and mods that are coming out today. People are used to playing fantasy mods or ancient scenarios and I believe that until Civ IV catches up with the development of graphics for such mods, it'll never oust Civ III.
On the other side of the coin, it's a wonderful opportunity to really go for it artistically. With virtually nothing new created, the world's your oyster. I have noticed that people are commenting less and less on Civ III creations, but I put this down to there being so much choice these days, there's mainly only specialised stuff that people need. If I create a new leaderhead for Civ IV, it's more chance of being wanted/needed than a new leaderhead for Civ III - I guess the likes of myself, Civ Army s 1994, jorde, Shirokobbure, Hikaro Takayama and others have saturated the market.
One question for you, Sword_of_Geddon : if you think it's the end of Civ III, why are you still creating Heart of Destiny? Possibly because you enjoy modding, it's a mod that people are looking forward to trying and there's still a market for it?
 
I'm not jumping ship quite yet. My computer isn't good enough for Civ 4, and there's no way in hell I'm giving up on civ 3!!!! (I have pages and pages and pages of stuff written down on paper at home!!!)

Besides, I know how pretty much everythnig in the editor work, how the Pedia and PediaIcons work... and I enjoy it! Civ 4 sounds like it will be fun to mod when people know how, but it won't feel the same as a Civ 3 mod.

Oh, and SoG, why did you post this here, and pretty much the same thing slating C4 C+C over there?
 
Glad you're not giving up the ghost yet R8XFT...

Im sure some of the creators are just like kids on christmas...some will playu with their new toy for a while...but then, some of them will go back to "their favorite" which wont be civ4 for all of them...let the big "Hurrah" go away, and people will be back...Sorta like one person I know(who remains nameless) who got Civ4 and is currently involved with it, but he will be back working on his Civ3 mod soon (Its been almost a week)
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Dom Pedro II is gone, Civarmy is gone, Aaglo is gone, Kinboat is gone, Utahjazz just released his last unit.
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Hmm. :hmm:
Strange - I didn't know I was gone. If I won't make an unit or two in a couple of weeks, I'm gone? FWIW, I've been working on a (guess what :p ) mod with mrtn quite a lot lately. Eventhough I find it quite flattering that you miss me making 5 units per week, I also find your lack of faith disturbing. And I am not irreplaceable (I've done the "finger-in-waterglass"-test).

Besides, keeping civ3-creation&customization community alive isn't just "making units" - it's only one part of it. I might be mistaken, but your claim propably is not very appreciated among the modders who do not make units.

cheers,
aaglo
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Well R8XFT, new leaderheads are NEVER not in demand, especially not yours. Haven't seen leaderheads from you in awile. I want to see another album from you...;)
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As you know (from being a beta tester on Anno Domini), I'm about to release 31 leaderheads. A few have been seen before and have been enhanced, the rest are brand new. I released Dido late August and three oriental leaderheads in September.
As you didn't answer the question from my previous post, I'll ask it again: If you feel that it's the end for Civ 3, why are you still creating Heart of Destiny? Possibly because you enjoy modding, it's a mod that people are looking forward to trying and there's still a market for it?
 
Aaglo: Don't even joke about being replacable...:) Its not because you haven't posted units, its that you don't post very much unless you are posting units..:p

R8XFT: I like my mod to much, and have put to much work to just give up because Civ4 is out...:) It will be awile, maybe even up to a year, before I more fully to Civ4, Civ3 just has so much, and Civ4 so little, I'm sure you understand friend.

Bjorn: I had bad feelings about both games, that Civ3 was dying because of Civ4 and that Civ4 was going to suck...that basically sums up why I posted the two threads..
 
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