The future according to John Titor

[Pontiuth Pilate]

A hoax within an elaborate hoax, eh Ictar?



I wonder if "Sala Ictar" is an anagram for something.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

A Liar's Act.

Could be

 

[Manverulin]

People, people, people! How can you be so rude? Sala Ictar!!! Welcome from CFC!!! We all, probably, wish you good luck to find historical information! Tell please of life like in your timeline! Understand if you not want to tell...

 

[amadeus]

Please. When I arrived here from the year 2133 no such nonsense of Ameircan civil wars or whatnot was documented in history textscreens.

For future reference, in my era, books are outmoded, and the learning capacity of humans has increased two hundred and fifty fold. The average child spends about a half hour in school a day for six or seven weeks. Most three year olds compose symphonies that your primitive Mozarts and Bachs never would have imagined.

I am a healthy, young, energetic 75 year old. My doctor tells me with my steady diet of steaks, pasta, greasy hamburgers, french fries, hard liquor, and cigars, I should live to a ripe old age of 570.

 

[Manverulin]

I don't really believe John Titor, but this person,whoever he is, is a teeny bit convincing. Well, all I'm gonna do is wait for 2005.

Some anagrams for Sala Ictar:
Astral CIA
Calais rat
A racial St
Alias cart
It's a Carla
It's a Clara
A liar acts
A Lisa Cart
A cast liar
Act as liar

 

[stormbind]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
Please. When I arrived here from the year 2133 no such nonsense of Ameircan civil wars or whatnot was documented in history textscreens.

Then your arrival must have messed everything up... sod off back to 2133!

 

[Bamspeedy]

At least he/she could have been original.

No, he wasn't original in saying there would be bad things coming our way. However, he was original in 100 other ways.

If I made 10,000 vague predictions, I'll bet one of them will turn out to be true.

Some were vague, yes. But none have been totally false yet. 2005 will be the determining factor.

Nostradamus wrote his stuff too long ago that his words are way too vague (since you have to consider what was around at his time to what is around now and try to adjust the interpretations accordingly). Nostradamus did not write most of the stuff people attribute to him, and people constantly adjust his words to their own liking (since there is a translation needed). Most of the stuff you hear about him saying about 9/11 he never did say at all or they were bits and pieces of different quantrains he wrote. His believers said the world would end in 1999, but when nothing happened, they re-interpretted his words to say he predicted the plane crash of some senator.

Titor isn't like the mystics, like Sollog who has been saying a nuke will hit DC for the last 10 years, but never saying when it will happen (he'll probably keep saying it's due to happen soon for the next 50 years). Sollog also routinely says something like
"There will be a major event with 113 in the date. So these dates are:
1/13
1/31
3/11
10/13
10/31
11/13
11/31
12/13
12/31
And on any of these dates there will be one of the following:
Earthquakes
Terrorism
Fires
Assassination
Riots
Revolutions
School Shooting
Nukes
Hurricanes
Tornados
etc., etc."

Titor gave specific dates often, so it is all or nothing in regards to whether or not his predictions are real.

 

[allhailIndia]

Oh gee, I better start packing up those bottles of mineral water and biscuits

If I had a paisa for every nut who went on the net with his claimed theories, I'd be buying Microsoft and AOL and shutting the whole damn thing down

 

[Evertonian]

For what its worth I think the predictions are a load of nonsense. The actual bad events he sees happen sit soooo comfortably with the pre-occupations of right-leaning libertarians in america. I refuse to believe that one particular strand of political thought can be so prescient and the pre-occupations of those outside that strand turned out to be so irrelevant.

And I remember anthrax being on the news in the mid 90s in the context of some countries developing it and some other countries not being so happy about it. So the fact he knew what it was is not a big deal.

I think time travel is not possible. However here is a yahoo story from a year ago.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html

I don't know if it was proved a fake or not, or what happened to Carlssin after that.

Here's the article:

NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256!

Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28.

"We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar," says an SEC insider.

"But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck.

"The only way he could pull it off is with illegal inside information. He's going to sit in a jail cell on Rikers Island until he agrees to give up his sources."

The past year of nose-diving stock prices has left most investors crying in their beer. So when Carlssin made a flurry of 126 high-risk trades and came out the winner every time, it raised the eyebrows of Wall Street watchdogs.

"If a company's stock rose due to a merger or technological breakthrough that was supposed to be secret, Mr. Carlssin somehow knew about it in advance," says the SEC source close to the hush-hush, ongoing investigation.

When investigators hauled Carlssin in for questioning, they got more than they bargained for: A mind-boggling four-hour confession.

Carlssin declared that he had traveled back in time from over 200 years in the future, when it is common knowledge that our era experienced one of the worst stock plunges in history. Yet anyone armed with knowledge of the handful of stocks destined to go through the roof could make a fortune.

"It was just too tempting to resist," Carlssin allegedly said in his videotaped confession. "I had planned to make it look natural, you know, lose a little here and there so it doesn't look too perfect. But I just got caught in the moment."

In a bid for leniency, Carlssin has reportedly offered to divulge "historical facts" such as the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and a cure for AIDS.

All he wants is to be allowed to return to the future in his "time craft."

However, he refuses to reveal the location of the machine or discuss how it works, supposedly out of fear the technology could "fall into the wrong hands."

Officials are quite confident the "time-traveler's" claims are bogus. Yet the SEC source admits, "No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002."

 

[test_specimen]

Originally posted by Bamspeedy
Titor isn't like the mystics, like Sollog who has been saying a nuke will hit DC for the last 10 years, but never saying when it will happen (he'll probably keep saying it's due to happen soon for the next 50 years). Sollog also routinely says something like
"There will be a major event with 113 in the date. So these dates are:
3/11

And on any of these dates there will be one of the following:

Terrorism

The Madrid bombs? Weren't they on March 11th?

Anyhow, lets hope his predictions don't come true.

 

[Bamspeedy]

Originally posted by test_specimen
The Madrid bombs? Weren't they on March 11th?

Anyhow, lets hope his predictions don't come true.

Yes, but of course Sollog left so MANY other outcomes for his 'prediction' to be true. He said ONE of the following would occur on ANY of those dates. There is earthquakes SOMEWHERE in the world every day! So Sollog had a 100% chance of success.

 

[Chieftess]

Here's a theoretical thought. If a timetraveler goes into the past, thus affecting it (creating another theoretical dimesion so to speak), to retrieve an old computer as he has said, then when he goes back, he's not in the origanal timeline, but the altered one. So, supposing it's 2036, why ask someone to retrieve an old computer in the past when you'll never see them again?

 

[stormbind]

Yes, chiefy, but I think John Tidor said there are many parrallel "worldlines" and most have no life on them.

I think he said that the one he visits is not necessarilly his "home" worldline, and explained it as being like a cone... the further you travel back in time, the less like you are to remain on the same line.

But he will return to his worldline because the time machines recordings are inversed precisely.

I think that's it, and it makes a fairly decent explanation for why his meddling in history has low probability of affecting his future.

 

[stormbind]

Some people have previously theorised that..

1. Jesus Christ was a time traveller
2. Incas were influenced by time travellers (depicted in drawing wearing space suits)

As a Christian, the first of those is not acceptable

 

[Chieftess]

Originally posted by stormbind
Yes, chiefy, but I think John Tidor said there are many parrallel "worldlines" and most have no life on them.

I think he said that the one he visits is not necessarilly his "home" worldline, and explained it as being like a cone... the further you travel back in time, the less like you are to remain on the same line.

But he will return to his worldline because the time machines recordings are inversed precisely.

I think that's it, and it makes a fairly decent explanation for why his meddling in history has low probability of affecting his future.

Then what about this quote?

30. Getting back to my exact worldline of origin is impossible but it depends on how you define the correct worldline. I can get close enough so neither I nor anyone there would know the difference. It relates to the classic example of cutting a distance in half to reach it. You can always get closer but never there. It also has a lot do with neighboring universes on Penrose diagrams but that requires more math.

Sounds like it would be impossible...

 

[thestonesfan]

I think there is a "John Titor's Survival Gear" store in Duluth.

Seriously, this is a great excuse to stockpile cool stuff for the end of the world. Now to convince the wife we need a couple hundred MRE's.

 

[Pirate]

Originally posted by Evertonian
I think time travel is not possible. However here is a yahoo story from a year ago.
...
I don't know if it was proved a fake or not, or what happened to Carlssin after that.

It was a hoax. The SEC never brought an investigation against an Andrew Carlssin. Link:
http://sec.broaddaylight.com/sec/FAQ_19_16002.shtm

Quote:
"Many investors and other members of the public have asked us about news reports concerning the Andrew Carlssin, an alleged "time-traveler" who supposedly made a fortune in the stock market by trading in the year 2003 based on information gleaned from his travels to the future. The reports appear to be a hoax. The SEC has not, in fact, brought an enforcement action against any such person."

As for John Tidor, I hope he enjoyed his 15 minutes of fame.

 

[Evertonian]

Thanks for clearing that up Pirate
I didn't think it had the ring of truth to be honest, seeing that I don't think time travel is possible.

 

[Amenhotep7]

Time Travellin Jesus sounds like an interesting possibility for a sitcom.

 

[Grav]

I can't believe anyone gives this guy credit. Don't these people understand that he has the perfect alibi? It doesn't matter if his 'predictions' come true or not, because all he had to say is "well your timeline is a bit different than mine." How much safer can you get from critisizm!

Hi everyone, I'm from the future! A big event, may or may not happen, in a date in the future, that will effect many people! *it doesn't happen* Oh well it didn't happen because my presence has changed your timeline!