NerfCothons
Warlord
It's been some time since I posted here, but I've spent a lot of my life playing this mod. No other game I've played so effectively captures the atmosphere of actual history, yet still gives you the sense of freedom to guide it as you see fit. You are given the choice to build cities wherever you want, yet the map is so brilliantly designed such that people still end up living where they ought to live. Sadly there are exceptions to this which I would like to illustrate:
Rank Megacity Country Continent Population Annual Growth[citation needed]
1 Tokyo Japan Asia 34,300,000 0.60%
2 Guangzhou China Asia 25,200,000 4.00%
3 Seoul South Korea Asia 25,100,000 1.40%
4 Shanghai China Asia 24,800,000 2.20%
5 Delhi India Asia 23,300,000 4.60%
6 Mumbai India Asia 23,000,000 2.90%
7 Mexico City Mexico North America 22,900,000 2.00%
8 New York City USA North America 22,000,000 0.30%
9 São Paulo Brazil South America 20,900,000 1.40%
10 Manila[21] Philippines Asia 20,300,000 2.50%
11 Jakarta Indonesia Asia 18,900,000 2.00%
12 Los Angeles USA North America 18,100,000 1.10%
13 Karachi Pakistan Asia 17,000,000 4.90%
14 Osaka Japan Asia 16,700,000 0.15%
15 Kolkata India Asia 16,600,000 2.00%
16 Cairo Egypt Africa 15,300,000 2.60%
17 Buenos Aires Argentina South America 14,800,000 1.00%
18 Moscow Russia Europe 14,800,000 0.20%
19 Dhaka Bangladesh Asia 14,000,000 4.10%
20 Beijing China Asia 13,900,000 2.70%
21 Tehran Iran Asia 13,100,000 2.60%
22 Istanbul Turkey Europe & Asia 13,000,000 2.80%
23 London United Kingdom Europe 12,500,000 0.70%
24 Rio de Janeiro Brazil South America 12,500,000 1.00%
25 Lagos Nigeria Africa 12,100,000 3.20%
26 Paris France Europe 10,197,678 1.00%
The above list is copied out of Wikipedia's list of megacities, or metropolitan regions with at least 10 million citizens, and illustrates the largest modern centers of urban and suburban population. While I certainly don't expect that RFC to reflect that list, I would hope that it would reflect the possibility. There are a number of cities in that list that simply are terrible city locations in RFC. The ones I would change are:
China: Wait wait hear me out. Yes China has a ton of resources that make it a fun civ to play. However, China is a country defined both geographically and historically by its three great rivers, all of which are prominently displayed on the RFC map. It is no accident that two of the four largest cities in the world, Guangzhou and Shanghai reside at the deltas of two of those rivers (the Pearl and Yangtze respectively). Guangzhou is doing fine, but Shanghai taps a measly two food resources. I would add a fish a tile or two north of the Yangtze river delta, and move the late spawning Manchurian corn down into the real breadbasket of China.
Mumbai: India has throughout history been a major population center. Mumbai is the sixth on the above list, and yet has zero food resources. It's just hardly worth settling. I would add a fish at the river delta, a new wheat and a new rice within Mumbai's fat cross, and shift the iron one tile west. India in its entirety is so food poor in RFC despite it's enormous population in real life. One could probably throw a couple extra food resources around for good measure.
São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro: Both cities appear on this list, yet between the two we have two food resources and a surprisingly large quantity of marsh. Certainly much of the marsh that lies directly west of São Paulo should be replaced with grassland or jungle. I would also suggest an additional (perhaps late spawning) land food resource for São Paulo and an extra fish for Rio.
Los Angeles: In fact, all of California just seems tiny given its cultural significance. San Francisco works out alright, especially since it's not really a population center like others on this list, yet the existence of San Fran leaves LA with clams, desert rock, some late spawning wine and almost zero arable land tiles. This just doesn't jive. It would be very easy to expand the west coast of the US by another row of arable land tiles, or move the desert back a bit. Maybe a late spawning wheat and a fish to boot.
Karachi: This one is the most bizarre. desert and marsh at the delta of the Indus, one of the cradles of civilization.
Lagos: Those poor Africans. This one's a bit nit picky but I'd throw an extra fish 2S1W of Lagos such that it's the only city that can tap both the cows and the new fish. More importantly the jungle ought to be cleared from the start so that this city actually gets settled by pioneering British, Dutch, or Portuguese settlers.
I'm curious about other folks' reactions. Am I the only one bothered by this?
Rank Megacity Country Continent Population Annual Growth[citation needed]
1 Tokyo Japan Asia 34,300,000 0.60%
2 Guangzhou China Asia 25,200,000 4.00%
3 Seoul South Korea Asia 25,100,000 1.40%
4 Shanghai China Asia 24,800,000 2.20%
5 Delhi India Asia 23,300,000 4.60%
6 Mumbai India Asia 23,000,000 2.90%
7 Mexico City Mexico North America 22,900,000 2.00%
8 New York City USA North America 22,000,000 0.30%
9 São Paulo Brazil South America 20,900,000 1.40%
10 Manila[21] Philippines Asia 20,300,000 2.50%
11 Jakarta Indonesia Asia 18,900,000 2.00%
12 Los Angeles USA North America 18,100,000 1.10%
13 Karachi Pakistan Asia 17,000,000 4.90%
14 Osaka Japan Asia 16,700,000 0.15%
15 Kolkata India Asia 16,600,000 2.00%
16 Cairo Egypt Africa 15,300,000 2.60%
17 Buenos Aires Argentina South America 14,800,000 1.00%
18 Moscow Russia Europe 14,800,000 0.20%
19 Dhaka Bangladesh Asia 14,000,000 4.10%
20 Beijing China Asia 13,900,000 2.70%
21 Tehran Iran Asia 13,100,000 2.60%
22 Istanbul Turkey Europe & Asia 13,000,000 2.80%
23 London United Kingdom Europe 12,500,000 0.70%
24 Rio de Janeiro Brazil South America 12,500,000 1.00%
25 Lagos Nigeria Africa 12,100,000 3.20%
26 Paris France Europe 10,197,678 1.00%
The above list is copied out of Wikipedia's list of megacities, or metropolitan regions with at least 10 million citizens, and illustrates the largest modern centers of urban and suburban population. While I certainly don't expect that RFC to reflect that list, I would hope that it would reflect the possibility. There are a number of cities in that list that simply are terrible city locations in RFC. The ones I would change are:
China: Wait wait hear me out. Yes China has a ton of resources that make it a fun civ to play. However, China is a country defined both geographically and historically by its three great rivers, all of which are prominently displayed on the RFC map. It is no accident that two of the four largest cities in the world, Guangzhou and Shanghai reside at the deltas of two of those rivers (the Pearl and Yangtze respectively). Guangzhou is doing fine, but Shanghai taps a measly two food resources. I would add a fish a tile or two north of the Yangtze river delta, and move the late spawning Manchurian corn down into the real breadbasket of China.
Mumbai: India has throughout history been a major population center. Mumbai is the sixth on the above list, and yet has zero food resources. It's just hardly worth settling. I would add a fish at the river delta, a new wheat and a new rice within Mumbai's fat cross, and shift the iron one tile west. India in its entirety is so food poor in RFC despite it's enormous population in real life. One could probably throw a couple extra food resources around for good measure.
São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro: Both cities appear on this list, yet between the two we have two food resources and a surprisingly large quantity of marsh. Certainly much of the marsh that lies directly west of São Paulo should be replaced with grassland or jungle. I would also suggest an additional (perhaps late spawning) land food resource for São Paulo and an extra fish for Rio.
Los Angeles: In fact, all of California just seems tiny given its cultural significance. San Francisco works out alright, especially since it's not really a population center like others on this list, yet the existence of San Fran leaves LA with clams, desert rock, some late spawning wine and almost zero arable land tiles. This just doesn't jive. It would be very easy to expand the west coast of the US by another row of arable land tiles, or move the desert back a bit. Maybe a late spawning wheat and a fish to boot.
Karachi: This one is the most bizarre. desert and marsh at the delta of the Indus, one of the cradles of civilization.
Lagos: Those poor Africans. This one's a bit nit picky but I'd throw an extra fish 2S1W of Lagos such that it's the only city that can tap both the cows and the new fish. More importantly the jungle ought to be cleared from the start so that this city actually gets settled by pioneering British, Dutch, or Portuguese settlers.
I'm curious about other folks' reactions. Am I the only one bothered by this?