The Great Flood

[Zkribbler]

Name one time in history where humans in control of other humans ever got it right.

1776 comes to mind.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I dont know what that means, what in my post did you paraphrase? I didn't even respond to you in that post.

You do realize that this is a public forum, right? Anyone can quote anyone else's post and comment on it. You posted several paragraphs of the same stuff that you've posted dozens of times before. It's no more accurate now than it was before.

Why is it irrelevant? The thread has wandered around the subject of how long oral traditions can last but thats hardly an irrelevant inquiry by skeptics. I dont even know why you read my responses to other people, you keep getting mad and jumping in to complain about a discussion you're not even part of.

And you've never replied to a comment that didn't specifically address you? Of course you have.

How does that prove I'm mocking astronomers?

Asked, and answered - more than once.

I'd think geologists would be the experts on what the world was like before life appeared. I already explained that, the myths say the world was covered by water before land and life. The experts said the world was molten a long time and too hot for water, even too hot for rocks to survive. Now if we followed your advice - dont 'mock' the experts by disagreeing with them - we'd believe the people who were wrong and 'mocked' the ancient peoples who were right.

Cool. Which geological journal contains the peer-reviewed research that supports your notions about Noah's ark?

How do trained astronomers explain the solar system's tilt? The Lord is thy shepherd...

JFCOASB. No, Psalm 23 is not part of any astronomy text or journal article I've ever read, it was not part of any astronomy course I've ever taken, it was not part of any astronomy documentary I've ever seen, and it has NOTHING to do with explaining anything about the solar system.

 

[timtofly]

1776 comes to mind.

33% right. Unless you are giving less credit to the value of some humans than those of 1776 did.

@ thread.

Berzerker. I doubt that for hundreds of millenium before the Flood would be any different than after. Unless there is some major reason for people to band together, they kept to tribes and thus millions of dialects and eventually millions of versions of a common story that only had less than 5 components to begin with, but millions of objects to replace those components. And that is including the point the story could have been completely forgotten at times.

Besides, the point given in the tower of babel account was genetic manipulation that changed the the way speech happened so no one could understand what the other person was saying. The Flood would have been an event where they all wanted to band together. And not because they needed protection from the Flood or it's aftermath. They were trying to get back into communication with beings that used to exist on the earth, and after the Flood did not.

I would point out whoever they were they were not the race of Adam. They would be what humans should be, but Adam and his race was again, genetically modified. The stories about gods creating humans are just that, wishful stories. Genesis said there was a perfect world with perfect humans, and Adam changed all that by deciding humans could go it on their own without any help from the creator of the universe.

Since the flood and with the help of technology and mass media humans have adapted back into using a language where one day they all may completely understand each other. Peace and prosperity can bring humans together unless some humans want to stand in the way from doing that.

For sake of more argument, my points may or may not by mine, but what the account portrays. Seems pointless to me to read more into the account than that. Did the proto Indo-European language originate at the tower of babel, I have no clue. Depending on the size of the tower, the builders may have been brought from all over. There are also indications that other places, for example, in modern Turkey also tried to build similar structures, and the rise of agriculture to sustain such endeavors. But there are structures all over where humans attempted versions of huge buildings that may have been re-purposed over time.

 

[Senethro]

Its like someone wanted a religion with all the most useless bits and none of benefits of being in a shared community.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Besides, the point given in the tower of babel account was genetic manipulation that changed the the way speech happened so no one could understand what the other person was saying. The Flood would have been an event where they all wanted to band together. And not because they needed protection from the Flood or it's aftermath. They were trying to get back into communication with beings that used to exist on the earth, and after the Flood did not.

I would point out whoever they were they were not the race of Adam. They would be what humans should be, but Adam and his race was again, genetically modified. The stories about gods creating humans are just that, wishful stories. Genesis said there was a perfect world with perfect humans, and Adam changed all that by deciding humans could go it on their own without any help from the creator of the universe.

So who did all this genetic modification? And don't say God or aliens. How about a nice, rational, scientific explanation for these claims? And keep in mind that you're talking about physically modern humans.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So who did all this genetic modification? And don't say God or aliens. How about a nice, rational, scientific explanation for these claims? And keep in mind that you're talking about physically modern humans.

Since it is the only answer you will allow, "random chance." Now, since you have self-righteously bullied your way into getting the answer you want, do you feel vindicated?

 

[Arakhor]

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