The Great People Mod

ostar · Dec 13, 2005

hIdDeN_eViL said:
i second the upload suggestion!

and whatever happened to snoopy??

I've emailed him and no response. I will try and upload a "patch" fixing those errors above. I've even thought of creating a Great Generals mod extension to this, so you can use both. I'm having a problem converting to .dds from .bmp, though.

BaalRoG · Dec 13, 2005

did you try nvidia tools? the dds converter for photoshop or paint shop pro`?

ostar · Dec 13, 2005

BaalRoG said:
did you try nvidia tools? the dds converter for photoshop or paint shop pro`?

No, I didn't. I was trying the dds converter listed elsewhere on these forums. Thanks for the tip - I will try nvidia tools. I hope it works with Photoshop 5!

Patricius · Dec 15, 2005

Hey Ostar,
I noticed you were going to try to clean up the mod, since Snoopy isn't available now. I kind of started changing the graphics part and I am about a third of the way through every GP. Here is an example of what my update looks like. If everyone approves, I will post the updated mod, once I finish.

patricius

P.S. I didn't touch the python files :confused:

, just the art.

View attachment 107703

MourinhoPortuga · Dec 15, 2005

Guys Snoopy hasnt posted in over a month, i think u should carry on with the changes and upgrades of his mod, but always recognizing his initial work, i just think the greater good (in this case the most possible fun for the whole community) is more important.

Keep up the good work, and good luck! :goodjob:

ostar · Dec 15, 2005

Patricius said:
Hey Ostar,
I noticed you were going to try to clean up the mod, since Snoopy isn't available now. I kind of started changing the graphics part and I am about a third of the way through every GP. Here is an example of what my update looks like. If everyone approves, I will post the updated mod, once I finish.

patricius

P.S. I didn't touch the python files , just the art.

View attachment 107703

Wow, that's great! I can't modify the Art, since I have photoshop LE.

I tried using a BMP/DDS converter, but since the existing DDS files in this mod are sized 400x600 the BMP won't convert to DDS (not a power of 2).
I have a number of quotes and pictures I was ready to use. I also wanted to make an extension to this for the Great Generals mod. Any chance that I could send you what I have and you could do the Art?

Patricius · Dec 15, 2005

ostar said:
Wow, that's great! I can't modify the Art, since I have photoshop LE.
I tried using a BMP/DDS converter, but since the existing DDS files in this mod are sized 400x600 the BMP won't convert to DDS (not a power of 2).
I have a number of quotes and pictures I was ready to use. I also wanted to make an extension to this for the Great Generals mod. Any chance that I could send you what I have and you could do the Art?

Wow we make a good team! :goodjob:

I had the same problem with the pixel size, so i just decided to make it 512x512. I am totally willing to do the art for the Great Generals. Just send it on over.

patricius

SimCutie · Dec 16, 2005

Hmmm, I checked all DDS file of snoopy's original Great People mod
and wrote a batch file to correct file names.

Cut and paste following code to text file and save that as "RENAME-DDS.BAT".
Or, just download the attached text file and rename it to batch file.
And put it in ".../CustomAssert/art/GreatPeople" folder.
(or any folder where you installed GreatPeople *.dds files)
Run the batch file will rename incorrect DDS filename to correct one.

Code:

@ECHO OFF
REM 
REM  Rename incorrect Great People Art File.
REM
RENAME "Al Khwarizmi.dds"	"Al-Khwarizmi.dds"
RENAME "Al Kindi.dds"		"Al-Kindi.dds"
RENAME "Al Razi.dds"		"Al-Razi.dds"
RENAME "Chuang Tzu.dds"		"Chuang-Tzu.dds"
RENAME "John D Rockefeller.dds" "John D. Rockefeller.dds"
RENAME "St. Augustine"		"St. Augustine.dds"
RENAME "st_john.dds"		"St. John.dds"
RENAME "St. Patrick"		"St. Patrick.dds"
RENAME "St. Paul"		"St. Paul.dds"
RENAME "St. Peter"		"St. Peter.dds"
RENAME "St. Thomas Aquinas"	"St. Thomas Aquinas.dds"
RENAME "Zheng Hi.dds"		"Zheng He.dds"

ECHO " OK. DONE."

I have written a small improved Great People mod with localized Great People names and custom option that you can turn on/off GP popup screen at your choice. Is any one interested in it? Then I will release it.

EDITED:

Patricius said:
I had the same problem with the pixel size, so i just decided to make it 512x512. I am totally willing to do the art for the Great Generals. Just send it on over.

I suggest you to think it again. Dealing with 400*600 and 512*512 picture box on same program code is bit harder and cubersome. And I think that 400*600 is nicer form factor on screen for in-game pop up than squre sized 512*512.

Just send me completed 400*600 high quality PNG or PSD file to me. I will convert it to DDS file with my photoshop and send back to you. Just upload it to free file hostig service, and notify me.
Then, I will modify this mod to handle both pictures ( snoopy's and paticius's) and user can choose picture set to display in custom option screen.

This is how it would look like.. in future...

BTW, How I can attach picture file as in-line (not as attached link)?
May I need a more privilige?

.

Patricius · Dec 16, 2005

SimCutie said:
I suggest you to think it again. Dealing with 400*600 and 512*512 picture box on same program code is bit harder and cubersome. And I think that 400*600 is nicer form factor on screen for in-game pop up than squre sized 512*512.

Just send me completed 400*600 high quality PNG or PSD file to me. I will convert it to DDS file with my photoshop and send back to you. Just upload it to free file hostig service, and notify me.
Then, I will modify this mod to handle both pictures ( snoopy's and paticius's) and user can choose picture set to display in custom option screen.

oh, if I had known that I would have done it in 400x600.
However, since I am already finished with about 80 of the the completed pictures, out of 178 I don't know if I can keep sane while going back and changing every single one. I poked around in the Python files and changed it to be consistent with 512x512. So, it all depends if everyone really likes the look of 400x600 over 512x512
Edit: Could this look like this because the file is too big?
Another Edit: sorry for wasting all your thinking time, I figured out why it looks like this.

Patricius

P.S. To post Images, under a 500 KB I think, push the attachment button on the reply message and browse on your computer for it and then push upload. Then push the attach button again and it should appear.

CellKu · Dec 17, 2005

That is a wonderful mod! Thanks a lot! :goodjob:

SimCutie said:
I have written a small improved Great People mod with localized Great People names and custom option that you can turn on/off GP popup screen at your choice. Is any one interested in it? Then I will release it.

That would be great!

How are the new additions coming along?

Oh, and can I add this mod in a way that it will be loaded with the standard game (so that I don't have to load it as a separate mod)?

Walter Hawkwood · Dec 17, 2005

Some observations of erroneous pics in the original mod:

Al Razi is swapped with Abu Bakr
Andrei Sakharov uses Andrew Carnegie pic
Archimedes looks strange for an ancient Greek
Mimar Sinan.dds and Sinan.dds are identical - redundant?
St. Thomas and St. John are identical

Patricius · Dec 17, 2005

Hi guys,

Heres a little update on what I finished so far.

Al Razi is swapped with Abu Bakr
Andrei Sakharov uses Andrew Carnegie pic
Archimedes looks strange for an ancient Greek
Mimar Sinan.dds and Sinan.dds are identical - redundant?
St. Thomas and St. John are identical

For Al Razi... the mix up was caused becuase Al-Razi's full name is Abu Bakr Mohammad Ibn Zakariya al-Razi. I have fixed this problem.
Fixed Andrei Sakharov
Archimedes's picture is just a Reneissance painter's idea of what he looked like.
Mimar Sinan is redundant and is not needed, only Sinan; I have fixed this.

Up to this point I have fixed the first 99 GP. It should take me a couple days more to finish the rest.

Patricius

ostar · Dec 18, 2005

Patricius said:
Wow we make a good team!
I had the same problem with the pixel size, so i just decided to make it 512x512. I am totally willing to do the art for the Great Generals. Just send it on over.

patricius

I have been unable to access my files the last few days, so I will send them over Monday.

krazyhades · Dec 18, 2005

Oops. I forgot to read what was already said. Didn't mean to post yet.

ostar · Dec 20, 2005

SimCutie said:
I have written a small improved Great People mod with localized Great People names and custom option that you can turn on/off GP popup screen at your choice. Is any one interested in it? Then I will release it.

I suggest you to think it again. Dealing with 400*600 and 512*512 picture box on same program code is bit harder and cubersome. And I think that 400*600 is nicer form factor on screen for in-game pop up than squre sized 512*512.

I agree that 400X600 may look better. But Firaxis made Civ4 so we could modify it. Restricting this mod to 400X600 means only a select few with an expensive program (like photoshop) can modify it. Using 512x512 means nearly everyone can make changes to this mod, since there are free BMP-DDS converters.
People could then modify this to their own scenarios with their own Great People, like a fantasy mod, or a specific historical period, or even add/remove their favorite/offensive Great Person.
Simply put, making this 512x512 means it can be modified by all. I think that vastly outweighs any minor graphical differences, and I hope your mod will take that into account and use 512 also.

Banira · Dec 22, 2005

ostar said:
I agree that 400X600 may look better. But Firaxis made Civ4 so we could modify it. Restricting this mod to 400X600 means only a select few with an expensive program (like photoshop) can modify it. Using 512x512 means nearly everyone can make changes to this mod, since there are free BMP-DDS converters. .

Try this: http://www.gimp.org/about/

ostar · Dec 22, 2005

Banira said:
Try this: http://www.gimp.org/about/

I have. To my understanding, there is a dds viewer, but not a dds modifier for gimp - at least I never found one. Please enlighten me if there is.
And my point still stands - gimp is not a well known program. Everyone has Paint, and there is a bmp-dds converter program listed here in the civ forums. Making this mod 512x512 means it has the widest availability and ease of use.

Banira · Dec 22, 2005

dds plugin for gimp: http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/dds/

If you're using ms paint to edit images you don't deserve to have access to whatever it is you want

ostar · Dec 23, 2005

Banira said:
dds plugin for gimp: http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/dds/

If you're using ms paint to edit images you don't deserve to have access to whatever it is you want

Hey thanks - I will check it out. I am not using Paint, but my point still stands. We shouldn't be elitists - making it 512X512 makes it available to the widest range of people to modify as they see fit.

Patricius · Dec 26, 2005

Hey Guys,

I made some progress on the Mod but then I was struck down by a pretty bad bout of the flu. :nuke:

I am not going to be able to work on the mod for a couple of days, but If anyone is willing to, I can give you the Pictures I used to construct each one and you can carry on until I am better. If anyone is interested, just say and I will post the Templates. For the font type I have used Book Antiqua, so make sure your photo editor has that font.

Patricius

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