Dear TNT,
Thanks for getting back to us so quickly. It's exciting to be moving
towards formalizing our strong relationship into treaty. Many of your
changes are fair, and we're happy to accept them.
We do have a few points that you raised we need to discuss.
Discussion 1) Technology
We're glad you brought up the issue of trading technologies. And while
we're happy to agree to not trading away any techs you give us we
believe we may need the flexibility to trade away some of our own
research. Please understand the whole point of our Alliance of
Science with you is so that we can both pull far ahead of the other
teams in technology. We have no intention of helping the other teams
stay current in tech. However, we have learned that a key tech trade
now and then can be a diplomatically valuable thing. We believe that
if you will agree to our retaining some flexibility with our tech we
may be able to find ways to thwart and hinder the developing KISS/Nuts
alliance
which if it develops fully will be very bad for both of us.
One thing worth pointing out is that we'll be focusing on the Peaceful
end of the tech tree, and since we're happy to promise we won't trade
any tech you give us, you can sleep easy knowing that no advanced
military techs will fall into the hands of the Nuts from us.
It's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that'll we'll never use
our flexibility to make any trades but if the opportunity arises, it
is important to us to be able to do everything we can to stunt the
KISS/Nut relationship.
Hopefully that makes sense.
We, of course, welcome your feedback.
Discussion 2) Backup Plans if TNT fails to get the Great Library
First off we hope all these backup plans are totally unnecessary.
However, if they do come into play, we want to make sure that all
sides can feel good about what happens to salvage what we can.
We've crunched some numbers, and we don't think it's a good idea to
try to keep track of what TNT earns each turn and since that number is
unverifiable anyway, it'll just save a lot of argument and mistrust if
we pick some pre-set gold numbers.
We would now like to propose 300 gold PER tech we provide you. Let us
point out that this is 25% of the beaker cost of Theology and even
less of a % for each tech after that. We feel that this is an insanely
good deal, and by just having a fixed price, we'll avoid any ugliness
should things go down the tubes with the GL.
Discussion 3) A Peace Deal
While our two nations have enjoyed a long history of good will, we
think it's high time we codified this part of our alliance into a
formal agreement of peace and cooperation.
We have adjusted the proposed treaty to match all 3 of the above points.
We're looking forward to seeing what you think and hearing back from you!
Part I Great Library Treaty
1. Chivalry & Engineering
a) MIA will provide Chivalry to TNT anytime upon request. TNT
can have it immediately following the signing of this document if
desired, or they can build horsemen for upgrade first.
b) TNT will provide MIA with Engineering as soon as this treaty is
signed.
2. TNT will build the Great Library.
TNT guarantees completion of the Great Library no later than
turn 155 if nobody else completes it before then. If TNT fails to
build the Great Library by turn 155 and no one else has built the
Great Library then TNT will pay MIA a penalty fee of 300 gold. This
penalty need not be paid all at once but payment must be completed by
turn 185. (Note: if this point is actually reached and TNT is close to
completing the Great Library then MIA agrees to be reasonable about an
extension of this agreement.)
3. Use of the Great Library
TNT will provide MIA any or all techs obtained from the Great
Library immediately upon MIA's request.
4. Provision for if TNT is attacked
If TNT is attacked by KISS or the Doughnuts before TNT
completes the Great Library then TNT reserves the right to nullify
this agreement. If TNT chooses to nullify the agreement then TNT will
pay MIA 300 gold per technology that MIA gives to TNT. MIA will give
TNT all the techs MIA currently has when TNT is attacked unless TNT
wishes to delay the receipt of these techs. Payment need not be made
all at once and the total is not due until 30 turns after TNT is again
at peace.
5. Provision for if TNT is beaten to the Great Library
If the Great Library is completed by Dnuts or KISS before TNT
and before turn 155, then MIA will provide TNT all techs researched by
MIA up to that point and TNT will provide MIA with 300 gold per
technology that MIA provides to TNT.
TNT will not be required to provide all of the gold until 30 turns
following the gifting of the techs.
6. Safety of the Great Library
TNT guarantees the safety of the Great Library. Until both
Dnuts and KISS have Education, TNT guarantees that the town containing
the Great Library will not be captured. If there are at least as many
enemy units within striking range of the Great Library town as there
are defenders in the town, then TNT agrees to abandon the Great
Library town rather than risk it falling into enemy hands.
7. Technology Trade Limits
None of the techs provided by TNT to MIA may be traded sold or
gifted to any other civ by MIA and none of the techs provided by MIA
to TNT may be traded sold or gifted to any other civ by TNT.
8. End of the Great Library Treaty
Upon the earlier of the Great Library being neutralized by
Dnuts or KISS reaching Education, or once the Great Library provides
Military Tradition, MIA will give TNT all Middle Age techs that MIA
has researched at that point. MIA guarantees to provide at least as
many Middle Age techs to TNT as TNT provided to MIA from the Great
Library. If MIA has not completed enough techs to repay TNT in full at
that point, then MIA will continue to give techs to TNT as soon as
they are completed until payment is satisfied.
Part II Peace Treaty
TNT and MIA hereby also agree to a sweeping peace deal of
mutual non-aggression and military cooperation.
* TNT and MIA units will not attack or hinder each other in any way.
TNT and MIA will both seek ways to help the other in all situations.
* This peace deal stands alone from any agreements regarding the Great
Library. While the Great Library deal will end (either by completion
of the successful conclusion of the treaty or by less desirable means)
this peace deal will not expire until the Modern Era.
* It may only be pre-maturely canceled by 15 turns written notice to
the other team.
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Your friends and Allies,
MIA
(General_W for Fe3333au)
anyway and I like the idea of nuetralizing the great library threat. I also like being able to generate 80 gpt. If the Iroqi attack us we could rush walls and pikes to counter the threat. We won't be wasting shields - if the nuts or Galls build the GL first there are many, many wonders we can build to save the shields and we'd just resume the Science Alliance (with the Greeks catching us up on any techs we don't have).
