The Huns for BtS
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No, both Tapioszentmarton and Szeged was more important
Sicambria was capital (or rather a capital-like settlement) for a brief period only
Make it 3rd on the list
Sicambria was capital (or rather a capital-like settlement) for a brief period only
Make it 3rd on the list
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I edited Atilla's armour so it has a blood stain on it if you would like too see it.
Oh and by the way, I noticed the Hun's music is from EB. Nice choice of TW mods.
Oh and by the way, I noticed the Hun's music is from EB. Nice choice of TW mods.
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Well, I'm always curious to see changes to see new art, so provide a preview. Also, others might be interested, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to just post your version. I have to say, that I didn't want to have Attila to look 'devilish'. According to what I have read about him, he tried to copy the Romans in cultural aspects, which tells me that he was more than just some bloodthirsty barbar. Also, there are remains of at least one palace and a source confirming that (Priscus) and don't let us forget that we know that Huns were fans of skull enlongation, so they had kind of fashion. These things tell us that they were more than just killers. There might have been even more things like these, that only got lost after the Huns disappeared. This ways, I didn't want to just follow the western stereotypes and thus avoided the devilish Attila. Nevertheless, I could provide your version as an alternative to mine that can be made active with some xmls edits. I planned to port this to my paprika modcomp anyways and therefor there will be at least one update. Furthermore, I have made some more changes to Attila myself since I published the last version, nothing serious though.
Errm... I just used Cybrxkhans (can't remember correct spelling, sorry) music, so I don't know where these pieces are from. But I'm glad you like it!
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Actually, Atilla is my all time favorite conqueror. Just barely beating Napoleon. I just thought the blood stain would look cool.
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This is the first thing I've done for Civ, although I am a 2d Artist, Historian, and occasionally translator for TW mods.
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This is the first thing I've done for Civ, although I am a 2d Artist, Historian, and occasionally translator for TW mods.
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It doesn't match the politics I followed with this mod, but it looks pretty realistic. I'd provide it as an alternative version if you would upload it somewhere. I could even merge this with Ekmeks original version to have a third, ultra-gore Attila 
EDIT: If you like, you could give other leaderheads I provide with my Hun or Hungary mod a shot. You should just wait a little as I have some leaders in work currently.
EDIT: If you like, you could give other leaderheads I provide with my Hun or Hungary mod a shot. You should just wait a little as I have some leaders in work currently.
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Ok, here's the download link
https://rapidshare.com/files/1298965326/Attila_DIFF.tga I'm pretty sure you know what too do, but for everyone else I'll make the instructions.
1. Download
2. Go to (your BtS folder)/mods/(where ever you have the Huns mod installed)/assets/modules/custom civilzations/Huns/Leaderheads/Attila
3. Delete "Attila_DIFF" from the folder
4. Extract to .../Leaderheads/Attila
5. Load the game and the mod.
6. Have fun with brute conquest!
https://rapidshare.com/files/1298965326/Attila_DIFF.tga I'm pretty sure you know what too do, but for everyone else I'll make the instructions.
1. Download
2. Go to (your BtS folder)/mods/(where ever you have the Huns mod installed)/assets/modules/custom civilzations/Huns/Leaderheads/Attila
3. Delete "Attila_DIFF" from the folder
4. Extract to .../Leaderheads/Attila
5. Load the game and the mod.
6. Have fun with brute conquest!
keneticpest
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np
Also, I see you're Hungarian. As am I (By ancestry an place of birth.)
Also, I see you're Hungarian. As am I (By ancestry an place of birth.)
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I would say add Bleda as a LH, but I can't seem to find any portraits of him. Though I would assume he would look similar to Attila, after all he was his brother.
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Adding Bleda would be okay for me. First of all we should find traits different from Rugas and Attilas as otherwise it makes no sense to work on an LH. Then, I could imagine to use Attilas head and transplant it on a different skeleton. That alone could cause some differences. Together with a new texture (made by you for instance, I am not good at texturing), this could already make the face look like that of a brother. We would need to find a different animation and different body as well as assecoires, preferably from existing leaderheads. Usermade leaders might work, too, but the chance that they cause trouble is higher. So, feel free to make suggestions, but remember, that we should find traits at first.
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I say Financial (as it is said he made great revisions to the hunnic economy) and Aggressive (for obvious reasons)
Bleda would be a very fearsome enemy being able to field a large and growing military, so it would be best to never
him off.
Or if you wanted to try a dual leaderhead with Attila and Bleda in the same lh box., you could always try.
Bleda would be a very fearsome enemy being able to field a large and growing military, so it would be best to never
him off.Or if you wanted to try a dual leaderhead with Attila and Bleda in the same lh box., you could always try.
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Don't know how to do that. Ekmek did lhs like that, so it's possible, but I don't know how. Also, I think Attila is too important to be part of a dual lh. At the moment, I could imagine to use Vlad IIIs head (that I recently shadered and that is based on Justinian) including the hair elongation plus a hat like that of nitrams Koppány. Just don't know what to use as body. DOn't want him to wear heavy armor. Instead, I would prefer him to wear something with fur, but there is rare stuff around. As animation, I could imagine to use that of Hannibal. The background could be a yurt interiour.
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Bleda wouldn't be too close to Attila?
I remember we chose Ruga over Bleda as a second LH directly because of this
As a separate leader I would rather see someone who is not that close - altough this is very hard for the huns...
I remember we chose Ruga over Bleda as a second LH directly because of this
As a separate leader I would rather see someone who is not that close - altough this is very hard for the huns...
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You're basically right, but I think we hardly have any alternatives. There was Mundzuk, father of Attila and Bleda and Rugas brother and there was a second hunnish leader I was reading about, but who's name I forgot. We don't know how any of the three persons looked like, so the leaderhead could be used for any of them. Don't think that Mundzuk was that important, also, it should be hard to find traits for Mundzuk and Mister X. At the moment, I think that Bleda is the best choice we have, although I could do some reading. That doesn't mean that I'll replace Ruga though. Ruga will remain in any case.
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I've just release some lhs I was working on, see http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=330562. There's an ultraviolent version of Attila (so called Attila at work edition) as well as the revised Attila and Ruga.
As for the third hunnic leaderhead (whoever that will be), I am currently thinking about the ancestor LH that someone made to be used as a base for other lhs. The Capos Hiawatha (see his lh thread for preview) seems to be based on that as well. I already distorted the skull so that it resembles the huns heads. Also, I would give the guy Koppánys beard (see my lh thread that I have linked before) and maybe one of Ghengis earrings. At the moment, I think I would keep the guy a skinhead, but I xould adopt The Capos HIawathas hair part and make it a bit more descent. I wouldn't give him any other hair nor a hat. Not sure about the body. One could leave it naked and only add some fur parts and / or make the body more hairy and sweaty. For a leaderhead like that, I would need help with the texture in any case.
EDIT: Regarding hunnic kings, this is what I could find through a quick search:
1. Balamir / Balamber - the earliest hun leader I could find, that means if we do not take the Xiong-nu in consideration, which we should not IMO; he's said to be a personification, not a historic person
2. Baltazár - son of Balamir; burried in Kiev
3. Uldin - son of Baltazár, did not rule over all Hunnic tribes
4. Charaton - said to be the first king
5. Octar / Optar / Uptarus - brother of Mundzuk and Ruga; all three seem to have participated in the unification of the Huns und could therefor get the same traits as Ruga making the two brothers needless
6. Mundzuk / Bendegúz - seems there is no proof that he was king, but things seem to support that point of view
7. Bleda
8. Ellac - son of Attila
9. Dengizich - another son of Attila
10. Ernak - another son of Attila
11. Basich - seems like few is known about him
Seems like a divided ruleship between brothers was somewhat common amongst Huns, which reminds me of the kende-gyula system of the early Magyars. In this case, Bleda would probably have different task areas then Attila, although certain discussions might have been done by both. Anyways, it seems to me like Rugas generation is already represented as from the sources we have, no other traits then Rugas can be determined. Not to mention the earlier kings and rulers of whom we almost only know the names. Attilas sons don't seem to have been successful at all. Anyways, agressive or expansive could be given to all of them... Well, if you guys can come up with suggestions about traits or further leaders, feel free to share them. From my part, I start liking the idea for the leaderhead I told you about, more and more. Yet I'd need help with the texture, that's for sure.
As for the third hunnic leaderhead (whoever that will be), I am currently thinking about the ancestor LH that someone made to be used as a base for other lhs. The Capos Hiawatha (see his lh thread for preview) seems to be based on that as well. I already distorted the skull so that it resembles the huns heads. Also, I would give the guy Koppánys beard (see my lh thread that I have linked before) and maybe one of Ghengis earrings. At the moment, I think I would keep the guy a skinhead, but I xould adopt The Capos HIawathas hair part and make it a bit more descent. I wouldn't give him any other hair nor a hat. Not sure about the body. One could leave it naked and only add some fur parts and / or make the body more hairy and sweaty. For a leaderhead like that, I would need help with the texture in any case.
EDIT: Regarding hunnic kings, this is what I could find through a quick search:
1. Balamir / Balamber - the earliest hun leader I could find, that means if we do not take the Xiong-nu in consideration, which we should not IMO; he's said to be a personification, not a historic person
2. Baltazár - son of Balamir; burried in Kiev
3. Uldin - son of Baltazár, did not rule over all Hunnic tribes
4. Charaton - said to be the first king
5. Octar / Optar / Uptarus - brother of Mundzuk and Ruga; all three seem to have participated in the unification of the Huns und could therefor get the same traits as Ruga making the two brothers needless
6. Mundzuk / Bendegúz - seems there is no proof that he was king, but things seem to support that point of view
7. Bleda
8. Ellac - son of Attila
9. Dengizich - another son of Attila
10. Ernak - another son of Attila
11. Basich - seems like few is known about him
Seems like a divided ruleship between brothers was somewhat common amongst Huns, which reminds me of the kende-gyula system of the early Magyars. In this case, Bleda would probably have different task areas then Attila, although certain discussions might have been done by both. Anyways, it seems to me like Rugas generation is already represented as from the sources we have, no other traits then Rugas can be determined. Not to mention the earlier kings and rulers of whom we almost only know the names. Attilas sons don't seem to have been successful at all. Anyways, agressive or expansive could be given to all of them... Well, if you guys can come up with suggestions about traits or further leaders, feel free to share them. From my part, I start liking the idea for the leaderhead I told you about, more and more. Yet I'd need help with the texture, that's for sure.
