The Hymn of Hot and Cold [Concluded]

[Daird]

Unvote on items. Sam for topaz, dc for diamond, keep glasses for myself.
As for accusations, I agree with feather. edse

 

[Autolycus]

KingMorgan, can we get a statement on when the day ends?

 

[KingMorgan]

Night falls in [TIMER="3/2/2014 11:59 PM GMT"][/TIMER]

 

[spaceman98]

unvote: vote: Jarrema for diamond

 

[choxorn]

Jarrema did scan me.

 

[BSmith1068]

unvote, Jarema can have the diamond

 

[edse]

I have listened to the conversation today and tallied your votes.

4 edse: spaceman98, Jarrema, Darth Feather, Daird
2 JoanK: azzaman333, SamSniped
1 Daird: dcmort93
1 Darth Feather: Sprig
1 SamSniped: JoanK
1 spaceman98: Zack
1 MartinLuther: Autolycus

1 Abstain: MartinLuther
4 No Vote: BSmith1068, edse, SouthernKing, choxorn

It breaks my heart to see that you want me dead .

Unvote: vote: edse You are celebrating the death of a town-sided vigilante, and saying that you know for certain that the "possessed black knights" are not brotherhood. I call PIS, at minimum.

It was (not so) clearly in jest. When I read the news of the night my first thought was that Arya killed the Grand Meister and that she herself was killed by a pair of vigilantes. I do not know now why I draw that conclusion but as you can see it was terrible wrong.

Vote: edse. He ticks of my scumdar.

Don't I always?

 

[azzaman333]

I don't trust unvote; vote: spaceman and think he'd make a better 2nd candidate than JoanK.

 

[BSmith1068]

Meh. Let's at least make this close. JoanK

 

[azzaman333]

All the items to JoanK.

 

[edse]

I've also tallied the opinions on the items to get a better look.

Diamond
5 Jarrema: Jarrema, Autolycus, spaceman98, choxorn, BSmith1068
3 JoanK: JoanK, MartinLuther, azzaman333
2 dcmort93: dcmort93, Daird
1 Sprig: Sprig


Topaz
6 SamSniped: SamSniped, Sprig, Jarrema, MartinLuther, BSmith1068, Daird
2 JoanK: JoanK, azzaman333


Glasses
3 Zack: Sprig, MartinLuther, BSmith1068
2 JoanK: JoanK, azzaman333
1 Daird: Daird
1 Autolycus: Autolycus

I agree on Jarrema and SamSniped but Zack hasn't even said he wants the glasses so I might as well take them.

 

[Sprig]

Big FOS on Spaceman and Bsmith. Whether Choxorn and Jareema are telling the truth or not, immediate acceptance of the fact, is a cause for concern. Its a place for scum to hide.

Also, Jerrama's claim is dubious in itself, why would a scan ability inform the target that they had been scanned. It makes no sense. And is counter to the claims of another scanner. Further more no scanner reveals this early...

As for accusation, JoanK gets mine despite my desire to accuse spaceman.

 

[Sprig]

Xcross posts, i see more movement in votes. Joank I will put mine on spaceman98

 

[choxorn]

spaceman98 seems like the best candidate at this point.

 

[spaceman98]

Big FOS on Spaceman and Bsmith. Whether Choxorn and Jareema are telling the truth or not, immediate acceptance of the fact, is a cause for concern. Its a place for scum to hide.

Also, Jerrama's claim is dubious in itself, why would a scan ability inform the target that they had been scanned. It makes no sense. And is counter to the claims of another scanner. Further more no scanner reveals this early...

As for accusation, JoanK gets mine despite my desire to accuse spaceman.

And making votes based on no facts at all isn't cause for concern? At least Jarrema has given us a reason to give him (or her) the items. In doing so, he has exposed himself to criticism, made his claims testable, and linked himself with Choxorn. For mafia, that is a VERY risky move. It means that two of them are potentially on the ropes, and that they have drawn attention to themselves. Why would they do that, when they can just lurk in the shadows, or ask for the times because "they are shiny" and get them anyways?

All the items to JoanK.

Why? Even if you trust JoanK (which you shouldn't) giving all of the items to one person is very risky. What if that person is mafia? What if they are converted to a cult? Etc. As a general rule, items ought to be spread out. Remember NOTW The Immortals where a mafia thief obtained loads of items because they were in the hands of a few, visible people?

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As to my critics, what is the case against me? That I "grasp at straws" and am to quick to accuse people? Would you rather that I be silent, make a bandwagon vote here or there, lurk and ask for a gem with no justification?

In any case, unvote: vote: JoanK. Edse is still suspicious, but the fact that he was wrong means that he could not have had PIS, and so the case against him is weak. On the other hand, I find all of the people willing, and happy, to give JoanK all of the items without any inquiry into why he or she wants them very disturbing.

 

[azzaman333]

Why? Even if you trust JoanK (which you shouldn't) giving all of the items to one person is very risky. What if that person is mafia? What if they are converted to a cult? Etc. As a general rule, items ought to be spread out. Remember NOTW The Immortals where a mafia thief obtained loads of items because they were in the hands of a few, visible people?

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As to my critics, what is the case against me? That I "grasp at straws" and am to quick to accuse people? Would you rather that I be silent, make a bandwagon vote here or there, lurk and ask for a gem with no justification?

In any case, unvote: vote: JoanK. Edse is still suspicious, but the fact that he was wrong means that he could not have had PIS, and so the case against him is weak. On the other hand, I find all of the people willing, and happy, to give JoanK all of the items without any inquiry into why he or she wants them very disturbing.

What makes you think that no attempts to inquire about JoanK's desire for the items have been made?

 

[Zack]

As to my critics, what is the case against me? That I "grasp at straws" and am to quick to accuse people? Would you rather that I be silent, make a bandwagon vote here or there, lurk and ask for a gem with no justification?

false dichotomy

your "case" against JoanK is literally that he voted himself items

 

[spaceman98]

That he voted himself ALL of the items, which, as I have said, is risky even if we do trust him.

 

[spaceman98]

false dichotomy

your "case" against JoanK is literally that he voted himself items

Once again, I still fail to see why me trying to make cases against people is punishable with death. You may see my evidence as flimsy (I admit as much, its day two after all) but I don't see why that is sufficient reason to kill me, given that random-voting or abstaining are much more destructive to the town (see MartinLuther's mafia)

 

[edse]

In the choice between JoanK and spaceman I will take JoanK. Only because spaceman put himself in the lead by unvoting me.