The Iroqouis War, Citizen discussion and Advice Thread

[Falcon02]

City production..... (still under construction)

Move PDX workers to maximize for production, and let it rebuild it's Temple, Library, Cathedral, and University, before going to Military production. Military Production should be Airport then Bombers. Should mobilization occur it must wait until after PDX starts military production.

Mobilization should also wait until Fox Nest's Manhatten is switched to SETI.

New Falcon's Haven - Barracks then Tanks

 

[Zur]

Originally posted by Falcon02
Honestly, I don't know. I imagine CT was doing it as a temporary thing figuring 1 turn with PDX THAT far in our borders it was in no threat.

With the advent of railroads, ALL our cities, no matter how far inland, need to be adequately defended to prevent further abuses of ROP.

 

[Falcon02]

I agree, but my only order to ensure this was to make sure there was 1 Infantry in every city. I didn't think to add "at all times" I just figured once this was done everything would be fine. I apoligize that my orders weren't clear enough that CT knew to make sure PDX was guarded even during the transfer period.

 

[disorganizer]

Now a proposal for the attack:
There are 2 stacks of units in our territory, 1 with an army.
We should moove our artillery in the vincinity of those stack (they are on RR, so they can attack on pre-turn). We should take down to almost no life the biggest stack first. If some arty is left, then the second stack.
Our outdated units should then attack the wounded enemy forces, maybe we even get more leaders. The army could be attacked by one or two of our armies.
If we got enough units to move after this, there is a cavalry on the north-east kashmir border retreating, which we could finish off.

After we destroyed those forces, we should try to take the 3 cities filling up northern kashmir.
Then the cities north of them and go in direction of salamanca to narrow the border.
Maybe we could get one of iros neighbors to help us? Is there a east neighbor to the iroquois? This would be perfect as it would bring them into a 2 front war. We should maybe think about a aliance with the babs or india also, as this would prevent a two front war for us (babs would be best).

 

[Falcon02]

Yes, we must talk about Alliances, this has the potential to become another World War. It seems likely that the Iro's will call on their apparent friend the Babylonians. If we ally with them then that would prevent them from attacking us (unless they break the alliance). India would also be good to divide their forces.

I agree with using our Arty to attack the Stacks and follow with old units (priority for elites for GL's). However I would like to reserve the Infantry Army for CSIM If possible, I suspect alot more troops will be filing through there later.

 

[Octavian X]

After the artillery have finished off the current invading units, perhaps they could be sent to slow down other invaders. With a infantry or tank escort, I would recommend sending a stack around the borders to take out some of the railroad tracks there, to slow down any invading units, and so we can spot them earlier.

 

[Falcon02]

I thought we'd use them for the offensive after eliminating the stack.

 

[Octavian X]

That suggestion was for more of a defensive strategy.

 

[Falcon02]

I understand, but according to the poll, last I saw an Offensive and Agressive war were winning out.

 

[Falcon02]

Here's my offensive plan (order of attack).

The Yellow boxes are the immediate sphere of control we will gain when taking that city. I didn't take into account our own borders or the borders of neighboring target cities when making these boxes for ease.

The large circles are spots where I predict our forces will have to set up camp until next turn.

The Red Arrows are attacks we can do Turn 0, IF we have enough forces after taking out the stacks. St. Regis and Hieraconpolis would be the priorities if there aren't enough forces to take Hangchow turn 0.

The Green Arrows are the next set of targets, (given enough luck and we take all red cities on turn 0, we should be able to begain our attack on these cities turn 1).
-For the attack on Grand River, we'll follow the path of the lower picture, the difference was an accident.

The Blue Arrows are then the next set of targets after that.
EDIT: attack on Chengdu should preceed the attack on Tonawanda. Forces from Chengdu and Grand River should converge on Tonawanda.

 

[Falcon02]

Overall Stradegy:

Use Artillary to weaken the southern stack near Memphis. Use Tanks to attack any healthy units, and obsolete units such as Immortals or Cavalry to attack 1 HP units.

Reserve the Tank Army to attack the Iro. Infantry Army in the northern stack.

Attack Turn 0 Targets one unit at a time. Any Tank with 2 HP or less after the first attack have wait until we take the city and move them to the captured city to help defend in case of counter attack. If possible move infantry reinforcments to the city as well as soon as the city is taken. Once the city is taken and has infantry reinforcemts (at least 10 units preferably for captured cities on the front). Then begain attacking another Turn 0 city. The City per city order of attack is as follows...

St. Regis (Vital RR link to the Region)
Hieroconpolis
Hangchow
Oil Springs
Gandasetaigon
Grand River
Chengdu
Tonawanda
Salamanca

We should immediatly start production of a library in each of these cities to avert flips. (I leave rushing requests to the Domestic Dept.)



This is my plan, please comment on my plan and make any suggestions.

 

[Chieftess]

On asking others to join - mainly India:

Should we ask India to join in only when victory over the last 3 cities are certain? I'm concerned that if another nation gets Salamanca, it could be razed.

 

[donsig]

We should be driving for Salamanca ourselves. It may be a little late (I know not how well the war went in the Weds. turn chat) but we should drive along the coast towards the capital leaving the hilltop cities alone. If the Iroquois only have riflemen we can use mechanized infantry as well as tank offensively.

Grab the capital and sue for peace. We don't need no stinkin' allies.

 

[Cyc]

I agree with Donsig. Let's take their Cultural Center. Also, maybe we can find all that gold we gave Hiawatha to keep him happy.

 

[Falcon02]

The idea of allies, isn't that we NEED them to finish take what we want, but to prevent a MPP chain reaction. Esp. now that China's in the war. We can't just ignore China, but if we attack China (on their soil) then their Zulu MPP will come to effect and we'll be fighting 3 countries.

Also, it's obvious the Iro Rifleman pile-up isn't going to stop us. And I see no reason to leave 2 Iro cities in the middle of our lands.

However, as I'm typing this I just got an Idea. If we DO bypass them and sue for peace after we go straight for Salamaca, then we could try to Culture Rush those cities... however, it might be hard since it's new cities vs. long established Cities.

 

[Cyc]

If we don't take the cities on the way to Salamanca, perhaps we can ask for them when we sue for peace...

 

[Zarn]

After the destruction of the Iroq forces in Kasmir, would it be wise to plan an Ichon Landing in the Iroq's turf. This is to distract the forces for an easier tank blitz.

 

[Falcon02]

Not enough time to assemble the Landing, by the time the Transport would Arrive, Salamaca would be ours.

Cyc, but there's no Garentee's he'll be willing to give them up.. or would you suggest a follow up back Track if he refuses?

 

[Octavian X]

Actually, at the current moment, Hiawatha is willing to have peace, with no concessions on either side. This means that with any more capture of Iroquois cities, he should be willing to offer something for peace.

 

[Falcon02]

question still is, will he only give one up or both?

I feel it may be worth a shot, but if he doesn't want to give us the cities we should back track to take them.

But this does sound like it will save Pheonitican Lives, so I say go straight for Salamaca now and try to get the other cities in Peace or of need be via war.