The Light and Dark Sides of OT - Splitting of the OT, A Proposal

[onejayhawk]

I was one of those objecting. Still, I think there is some merit. You could merge the lighter side with the humor forum. This way good politcal discussion isnt buried in a bunch of polls.

I might suggest that the serious forum be called "The Coffee House", with a disclaimer that emotional content is expected.

J

PS What happens to the Word game and trivia threads?

 

[puglover]

Sounds cool. Now the Favorite Food threads won't be bumped to the 2nd page by Religious threads.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

Most of the fun things get moved to History or Humor or Other Games and are there forgotten.

I agree pure joke threads, pure historical discussion, etc, belongs elsewhere, but this particular forum needs all the levity it can get

So, I'm against a split, on two grounds:

1. Those who choose to debate in the serious threads do so not only to prove their point but to reach an audience [those who read but don't post] and besides they are interesting reading. Sidelining them into their own forum would lose all but the diehards.

2. Reading ONLY debate threads is offputting, it's nice to have a little light small talk here once in a while.

 

[Drewcifer]

Instead of doing a light and dark side maybe there could be a subforum for never ending arguments where we could put the religion, evolution and Iraq threads.

More seriously I prefer the current arrangement. The juxtoposition of serious and frivolous is part of OT's charm. Perhaps this isn't the best time to discuss this, with summer waning in the northern hemisphere there doesn't seem to be as much traffic here. I'm sure that when it gets cold outside a lot of the old regulars will be here more often.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

I just downed a fistfull of Paxils with a bottle of Scotch and its all clear to me now! My stars! XII is right! Dont you see? We cant let all the "nice" threads get contaminated by the "icky" threads! It would be like letting cuddly little puppies play with mean old grumpy pitbulls! Or allowing the pretty little butterflies to enter into unholy congress with nasty dragonflies!

 

[Shadylookin]

bad idea. theres not enough people to even concider this, usually topics stay on the front page for at least 2 days. What is light and what is dark. religion(the new hot debates are all about it) where would it go some might concider it light and some dark. and what happends if it's intended to be ligh/dark and then it ends up the opposite. I believe some of the mods are move thread happy, but it would just be confusing as hell to see your nice thread you made one minute and then the next it gets moved. Light and dark is way too much open for interpretation, and the other suggested splits are not useful. If it's not broke don't fix it. So LEAVE OFF TOPIC ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bootstoots]

If this is implemented, what will happen in OT? Will the original one be archived and the active threads split into two different forums?

 

[EdwardTking]

~~~I am all in favour of it ~~~~~~~~

~~~Because I am frequently misunderstood~~~~

~~~Because I am too stupid to use the smilies~~~~

~~~Will Simon Darkshade be limited to the dark forum?~

Boil it another 3 minutes!

 

[Peri]

perhaps the creation of a darker forum will encourage more contentious debates which is obviously a good thing.

 

[Archer 007]

I was one of the people that orginally thought that when this debate came up a few months ago, the idea to split was overious. Im now firmly in the camp of keeping it together. Its tradition. However, I do see the merit of both ideas.

 

[WildFire]

Wouldn't a new forum waster "server space"?



32 yes to 29 no. Quite close.

 

[Bose]

That's the first time my vote has actually counted for something.

Vote i said, not opinion... I'm not that deluded.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Drewcifer
I'm sure that when it gets cold outside a lot of the old regulars will be here more often.

The 'old regulars' left because of politics in OT. So were the ones before that. And the ones before that one. And so on.

There are other forums out there, you know.

It ends here, now that I got the 'powa stick'.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Bootstoots
If this is implemented, what will happen in OT? Will the original one be archived and the active threads split into two different forums?

I'll just move the politics threads on the 1st or 2nd pages over, and go fr there. There won't be any archiving.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Shadylookin
If it's not broke don't fix it. So LEAVE OFF TOPIC ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's already broken beyond recognition - just that you didn't see it.

Even compared with, say, 1-3 mths ago, the composition of the posters has changed dramatically, with the average age dropping into the teens.

I say remake OT, before the next 'political' fallout drive another batch of wearied regulars away.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by onejayhawk
I was one of those objecting. Still, I think there is some merit. You could merge the lighter side with the humor forum. This way good politcal discussion isnt buried in a bunch of polls.

I'll leave Humor as it is - people are already complaining that the good jokes are buried too deeply.

PS What happens to the Word game and trivia threads?

Word assoc? Still in Other Games...

Trivials will be here, in the non-serious OT of course.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by CivCube
If this were to happen, how soon would this be?

Don't know, but I am pushing for it.

TF actually says to go ahead with the last one, but I ask to put a hold on it at the very last minute 'cause of objections fr the vet regulars. Now that these people are more or less gone...

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Stapel
Could you provide a link then? I really am guessing on advantages of dividing OT, so it might enlighten me!

BTW: it is not the names. but it is what issues are light and what issues are dark. And where is the difference and who is gonna decide?

Here... It's now a locked thread in Site Feedback.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59473

 

[carlosMM]

I do think splitting the trivialities from the 'serious' threads is a good idea - simply because sometimes there is so much going on in OT that one page doesn't hold the topics.....

 

[Stapel]

Originally posted by XIII
It's already broken beyond recognition - just that you didn't see it.

Even compared with, say, 1-3 mths ago, the composition of the posters has changed dramatically, with the average age dropping into the teens.

I say remake OT, before the next 'political' fallout drive another batch of wearied regulars away.

Thanks for the link XIII.

Unfortunately it does not contain really good reason to split up OT.

What bothers me is that many posters vote yes, without a proper desription of the split-up.

If it has to be done, I think we should make a political & religions thread and an OT thread. Current events are not to be seperated. A politician saying something about homosexuality goes into P&R, the death of Charles B. goes into OT.

I highly doubt a split-up will contribute to better quality of the forum. Yhe only advantage I see is that threads won't die on page 2 or 3......

XIII, I completely fail to see how a split-up would prevent a political fall-out driving out regular posters. May I conclude you are pushing a bit? Why do you want this split-up so bad?