Till
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The Lurid Livonians - An EU2 AAR
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During the war against Sweden, Lithuania declared war on Crimea once again. Must be the urge to get to the Black Sea that drives them. This war continued for a long time, to much irritation for me. Since it wasn't any fighting around the Livonian lands, army maintenance was set to 50%, and no army movements were made. All rebel controlled provinces were liberated in the next few months. As the census taxes rolled in, von Plettenbergs army was reinforced with infantry and cavalry. That was just in time, since Russia was tired of sitting on the fence.
The third war against Russia
In june 1492 Russia declared war on me toghether with its allies Theodoros, Moldavia and Abkhazia. Fortunately, Lithuania, Poland and Teutonic Order joined my side. Russia have some big armies, so fighting them alone is hopeless. von Plettenberg is sent to Olonets, while Russia goes after Novgorod.
Lithuania and Poland have their hands full already with Crimea and the Ottomans, so Russia have started several sieges in Lithuanian provinces. The siege in Olonets needs only one year before it falls under Livonian control. von Plettenberg is then sent to Pskov. Russia only focus on Lithuania, so von Plettenberg hasn't proved his skill vs Russian troops yet. As Pskov only has a minimal fortress, it falls quickly too. A separate peace with Russia is offered, where giving me Olonets is the condition. They refuse. Looking for opportunities to gain more warscore, von Plettenberg is sent to Vologda, where Russian soldiers are under training. The fight that follows proves von Plettenbergs skill - the enemy suffered big losses. The Russians realized that they was losing the war, so they agreed to give me Olonets! Finally, after all those wars, that poor province is mine
It has ugric culture, after all 
However, Russia continues the war against my alliance partners. I'm still in war with Crimea and allies, and Moldova (leader of Russias alliance) and allies.
After a year in big trouble, Lithuania gets too easy away. Russia accepted peace with only 75 ducats. No provinces changed hands. Meanwhile I signed a white peace with Moldova. Right after that I got the crappy "Treacherous Noble Arrested" event. I went for centralization +1, and aristocracy -1. Even if getting more centralized is good, I hate losing aristcracy "points". Cavalry will get more expensive, and the monarchs diplomacy rating will fall.
My next plan is to go after Denmark. They have some rich provinces, like Skåne. Skåne is within reach of my fleet. Considering that Denmark have been at war for a couple of years now against two alliances is only positive for me. I will wait to declare war on them until Lithuania is finished with their war against Crimea. The Ottomans are out of the war, gaining Ukraina and some ducats.
In february 1502 the declaration of war is sent to Denmark. Norway and some german minors join there side, while I decide to fight alone. von Plettenberg was already waiting outside Gotland in the Livonian fleet. His 18k army was unloaded at once, starting the siege within the end of the month.
Fortunately, the supply in Gotland is high enough for 18k men without the need of a blockade. The Livonian fleet is moving back and forth to either blockade the port in Gotland, or engage Danish fleets. We have about the same size, so the battles outcome depends a lot on favourable winds. Unfortunately, the Danish are more lucky with the winds than me.
Even if Denmark has favourable winds, I crush them in this naval battle
von Plettenberg captures Gotland about a year and a half after the siege started. My plan was originally to siege Skåne next, but an army of 21k men from Denmark are stationed there. Sjælland is also defended with a big army, so von Plettenberg is sent to Jylland. The Danish tries two times to kick me out, but von Plettenberg is each time victorious - but the losses are big, around 9k men. Denmark isn't only defensive; they sent 18k to Kurland, siegeing the province. However, since von Plettenberg started the siege of Jylland so early, that province is captured first. Seeing that the Danish have a much bigger army and also many ships, I ask them for peace. They accept, and give me Gotland
Getting Gotland was a real good bargain. It's the richest province I own at the time. As some of you might have noticed, Gotland has a Naval Manufactory! This will give me faster research times on naval technologies. The Livonian Order should now be considered one of the biggest nation around the Baltic Sea:
So who do you think I should attack next?
The third war against Russia
In june 1492 Russia declared war on me toghether with its allies Theodoros, Moldavia and Abkhazia. Fortunately, Lithuania, Poland and Teutonic Order joined my side. Russia have some big armies, so fighting them alone is hopeless. von Plettenberg is sent to Olonets, while Russia goes after Novgorod.
Lithuania and Poland have their hands full already with Crimea and the Ottomans, so Russia have started several sieges in Lithuanian provinces. The siege in Olonets needs only one year before it falls under Livonian control. von Plettenberg is then sent to Pskov. Russia only focus on Lithuania, so von Plettenberg hasn't proved his skill vs Russian troops yet. As Pskov only has a minimal fortress, it falls quickly too. A separate peace with Russia is offered, where giving me Olonets is the condition. They refuse. Looking for opportunities to gain more warscore, von Plettenberg is sent to Vologda, where Russian soldiers are under training. The fight that follows proves von Plettenbergs skill - the enemy suffered big losses. The Russians realized that they was losing the war, so they agreed to give me Olonets! Finally, after all those wars, that poor province is mine
It has ugric culture, after all However, Russia continues the war against my alliance partners. I'm still in war with Crimea and allies, and Moldova (leader of Russias alliance) and allies.
After a year in big trouble, Lithuania gets too easy away. Russia accepted peace with only 75 ducats. No provinces changed hands. Meanwhile I signed a white peace with Moldova. Right after that I got the crappy "Treacherous Noble Arrested" event. I went for centralization +1, and aristocracy -1. Even if getting more centralized is good, I hate losing aristcracy "points". Cavalry will get more expensive, and the monarchs diplomacy rating will fall.
My next plan is to go after Denmark. They have some rich provinces, like Skåne. Skåne is within reach of my fleet. Considering that Denmark have been at war for a couple of years now against two alliances is only positive for me. I will wait to declare war on them until Lithuania is finished with their war against Crimea. The Ottomans are out of the war, gaining Ukraina and some ducats.
In february 1502 the declaration of war is sent to Denmark. Norway and some german minors join there side, while I decide to fight alone. von Plettenberg was already waiting outside Gotland in the Livonian fleet. His 18k army was unloaded at once, starting the siege within the end of the month.
Fortunately, the supply in Gotland is high enough for 18k men without the need of a blockade. The Livonian fleet is moving back and forth to either blockade the port in Gotland, or engage Danish fleets. We have about the same size, so the battles outcome depends a lot on favourable winds. Unfortunately, the Danish are more lucky with the winds than me.
Even if Denmark has favourable winds, I crush them in this naval battle
von Plettenberg captures Gotland about a year and a half after the siege started. My plan was originally to siege Skåne next, but an army of 21k men from Denmark are stationed there. Sjælland is also defended with a big army, so von Plettenberg is sent to Jylland. The Danish tries two times to kick me out, but von Plettenberg is each time victorious - but the losses are big, around 9k men. Denmark isn't only defensive; they sent 18k to Kurland, siegeing the province. However, since von Plettenberg started the siege of Jylland so early, that province is captured first. Seeing that the Danish have a much bigger army and also many ships, I ask them for peace. They accept, and give me Gotland
Getting Gotland was a real good bargain. It's the richest province I own at the time. As some of you might have noticed, Gotland has a Naval Manufactory! This will give me faster research times on naval technologies. The Livonian Order should now be considered one of the biggest nation around the Baltic Sea:
So who do you think I should attack next?
Till
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I'd expand in the direction of the richer provinces! In my game, Scandinavia consists mostly of low-medium income provinces, maybe Russia will be better in this regard. Attacking continental provinces will also give you a bit more of a buffer zone. Right now a lucky opponent could split your empire in two by taking just one province! Of course you have a strong navy, which would allow you to still move troops in such an event, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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Good point. If someone (like Russia) manages to take Ingermanland, I'm in trouble. Getting Pskov and Novgorod as buffer provinces will be good. However, Russia doesn't have so very rich provinces either. Southern Sweden and Denmark have the richest in the area. I might expand into Germany as well, they have some rich provinces as well.
If Russia follows the trend, they will most probably attack me again in a couple of years. Getting Pskov then should be possible. As for Novgorod, I hope it gets captured by rebels, and it defects to me. It could also defect to Russia (which is more likely). Then I think the CoT will move to Tula
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If Russia follows the trend, they will most probably attack me again in a couple of years. Getting Pskov then should be possible. As for Novgorod, I hope it gets captured by rebels, and it defects to me. It could also defect to Russia (which is more likely). Then I think the CoT will move to Tula
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Continue fight against Russia. It's a hard nation to beat, mostly because it's winter. What is your land tech level? I think you have researched assaults, so build a big army, place it near Russian borders and blitzkrieg Pskov and Tver. You may get either of them very soon.
Pskov would be an extremely important province. Through it Russia gains an access to Livland and Estland, which are you heartland. Without Pskov they have one more province to capture before your heartland.
Pskov would be an extremely important province. Through it Russia gains an access to Livland and Estland, which are you heartland. Without Pskov they have one more province to capture before your heartland.
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Land tech level 5 is reached in two months.
I agree on getting Pskov as soon as possible. But I will wait until Russia DoW's me. I cannot afford getting 4 BB now, since I'm at 6 BB. The AI tends to get really agressive if BB is over 10, in my experience.
Also, getting too many Russian provinces wouldn't be so good for the stability. Their provinces are orthodox, while my statereligion is catholic.
I agree on getting Pskov as soon as possible. But I will wait until Russia DoW's me. I cannot afford getting 4 BB now, since I'm at 6 BB. The AI tends to get really agressive if BB is over 10, in my experience.
Also, getting too many Russian provinces wouldn't be so good for the stability. Their provinces are orthodox, while my statereligion is catholic.
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The bailiff in Gotland was promoted at once after getting the province. A couple of months after the war land technology level 5 was reached. This is around the same level of my neighbours. Finally it was possible to assault during sieges. Russia has level 3 and Lithuania has only level 2. Some of the German minors have already reached level 10! I should avoid war against them at all costs. Sweden (level 4) is in an alliance with Brandenburg, Mecklenburg and Bremen, Fortunately, no one of them have reached level 9 yet, but Bremen is close at level 8. By the way, Hungary joined our alliance. This has to be the strongest alliance in the whole world now
In 1506 Austria declares war on Hungary. Hungary calls for our assistance, while Milan, Switzerland and Burgundy joins Austria. A real big war, in other words. The main fighting will be in Hungary and Austria, and I have no business to do down there, so I will sit on the fence and watch the fighting. Lithuania and Teutonic Order is still busy with Moldavia, so Hungary doesn't get any help from them either. Therefore is Hungary steamrolled by big armies from Austria and its allies. Already suffering from major revolts, Hungary accepts peace with Austria giving them Magyar and Croatia in 1507. So now there is no land connection between the two alliances, so no battles are occuring. A separate peace is signed in 1510, where Burgundy payed 200(!) ducats to our alliance. Poland gave up some months later, giving 250 ducats to Austria. The money shift hands quick here! It also look like my alliance isn't the strongest after all
von Plettenberg without work is like a lumberjack without a forest. He must have something to do! Since the BB have fallen below 5, a new offensive vs Sweden is planned. They have, as far as I know, only one ship! This will mean quick and easy sieges of most of their coastal provinces. von Plettenberg and 24k men are loaded onto the Livonian fleet on the first of January 1512. They set sail for Åland Sea, outside their capital Stockholm. War is decleared on Brandenburg the first of February 1512. Sweden joins, while I will fight alone. von Plettenberg is sent directly to Svealand (Stockholm).
Perfect timing!
To make things a bit worse, Hungary declares war on the Ottomans Hope my alliance will be more successful in this war. Fortunately, a white peace is signed with Austria a year later, ending that war. The joy lasts short, since Bohemia declares war on Hungary. Damned Hungarians 
! What have they done to be this much hated? Checking their BB, it is over 20, so it wasn't that surprising they were hated. Ah well, Bohemia is without allies, so I guess they will get crushed by Poland. In Sweden, after some small skirmishes and big battles, von Plettenbergs army is in Småland.
The Swedes lost 8k men, while von Plettenberg lost around 1k. von Plettenberg follows the retreating Swedes to Småland, to beat them again.
The siege in Stockholm didn't make any progression at all, so it was a bit more fun to take on a smaller province. Småland was captured in april 1514. von Plettenberg is once again sent to Svealand, with the support of the fleet. The Swedes are consentrated in Finland, planning a counterattack. They sent their troops into Nyland, starting a siege there. However, when von Plettenberg reached Svealand, they quickly retreated to save their capital.
von Plettenbergs army reinforced with 4000 infantry
The siege of Stockholm went much faster this time; the province fell within a year. The Swedes army, counting 30k men, didn't engage me at all. Hmm, I wonder why. They didn't even bother to liberate Stockholm when von Plettenberg was sent to Gästrikland. The AI sure have some flaws, hope it will be better in EU3!
As for the other wars going around, the Ottomans was as usual to strong to handle for Lithuania. The Ottomans got Kaffa out from the peacedeal in 1515. With the Ottomans out of the picture, Crimea was left alone. Lithuania and Teutonic Order used this opportunity good, and they got some ducats out of the peace, and a province was ceded to Teutonic Order. However, bad news came right after the war: Teutonic Order was diploannexed by Lithuania
! Damn, this will make it even harder to get Danzig in the future .
Nein!
Soaked in tears by the dreadful news von Plettenberg let out his aggresion on the poor Swedes. Gästrikland fell in September 1516. Fortunately, Sweden offered Småland, Gästrikland and 84 ducats by free will one month later. I accepted without hesitation.
Ten years in continuous war had been a burden for the Livonian Order - stability was low and therefore also income. I'm still in a war vs Brandenburg, but we haven't met in battle yet, so I reckon peace will be signed soon. BB at the moment is at 10,4. No more offensive wars for a while. But the aggression shown by the Livonian Order in the last hundred years have made big marks. Sweden is now severely weakened, with their Finnish provinces cut off. Småland will be a useful province vs the Danish, with access directly into Skåne.
In 1506 Austria declares war on Hungary. Hungary calls for our assistance, while Milan, Switzerland and Burgundy joins Austria. A real big war, in other words. The main fighting will be in Hungary and Austria, and I have no business to do down there, so I will sit on the fence and watch the fighting. Lithuania and Teutonic Order is still busy with Moldavia, so Hungary doesn't get any help from them either. Therefore is Hungary steamrolled by big armies from Austria and its allies. Already suffering from major revolts, Hungary accepts peace with Austria giving them Magyar and Croatia in 1507. So now there is no land connection between the two alliances, so no battles are occuring. A separate peace is signed in 1510, where Burgundy payed 200(!) ducats to our alliance. Poland gave up some months later, giving 250 ducats to Austria. The money shift hands quick here! It also look like my alliance isn't the strongest after all
Some peace deals during the wars
von Plettenberg without work is like a lumberjack without a forest. He must have something to do! Since the BB have fallen below 5, a new offensive vs Sweden is planned. They have, as far as I know, only one ship! This will mean quick and easy sieges of most of their coastal provinces. von Plettenberg and 24k men are loaded onto the Livonian fleet on the first of January 1512. They set sail for Åland Sea, outside their capital Stockholm. War is decleared on Brandenburg the first of February 1512. Sweden joins, while I will fight alone. von Plettenberg is sent directly to Svealand (Stockholm).
Perfect timing!
To make things a bit worse, Hungary declares war on the Ottomans
Hope my alliance will be more successful in this war. Fortunately, a white peace is signed with Austria a year later, ending that war. The joy lasts short, since Bohemia declares war on Hungary. Damned Hungarians ! What have they done to be this much hated? Checking their BB, it is over 20, so it wasn't that surprising they were hated. Ah well, Bohemia is without allies, so I guess they will get crushed by Poland. In Sweden, after some small skirmishes and big battles, von Plettenbergs army is in Småland.
The Swedes lost 8k men, while von Plettenberg lost around 1k. von Plettenberg follows the retreating Swedes to Småland, to beat them again.
The siege in Stockholm didn't make any progression at all, so it was a bit more fun to take on a smaller province. Småland was captured in april 1514. von Plettenberg is once again sent to Svealand, with the support of the fleet. The Swedes are consentrated in Finland, planning a counterattack. They sent their troops into Nyland, starting a siege there. However, when von Plettenberg reached Svealand, they quickly retreated to save their capital.
von Plettenbergs army reinforced with 4000 infantry
The siege of Stockholm went much faster this time; the province fell within a year. The Swedes army, counting 30k men, didn't engage me at all. Hmm, I wonder why. They didn't even bother to liberate Stockholm when von Plettenberg was sent to Gästrikland. The AI sure have some flaws, hope it will be better in EU3!
As for the other wars going around, the Ottomans was as usual to strong to handle for Lithuania. The Ottomans got Kaffa out from the peacedeal in 1515. With the Ottomans out of the picture, Crimea was left alone. Lithuania and Teutonic Order used this opportunity good, and they got some ducats out of the peace, and a province was ceded to Teutonic Order. However, bad news came right after the war: Teutonic Order was diploannexed by Lithuania
! Damn, this will make it even harder to get Danzig in the future .
Nein!
Soaked in tears by the dreadful news von Plettenberg let out his aggresion on the poor Swedes. Gästrikland fell in September 1516. Fortunately, Sweden offered Småland, Gästrikland and 84 ducats by free will one month later. I accepted without hesitation.
Ten years in continuous war had been a burden for the Livonian Order - stability was low and therefore also income. I'm still in a war vs Brandenburg, but we haven't met in battle yet, so I reckon peace will be signed soon. BB at the moment is at 10,4. No more offensive wars for a while. But the aggression shown by the Livonian Order in the last hundred years have made big marks. Sweden is now severely weakened, with their Finnish provinces cut off. Småland will be a useful province vs the Danish, with access directly into Skåne.
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Neat empire you have there.
Maybe Swedish 30k army didn't attack because you had military leader, and maybe a better tech level(check from "comparison").
Maybe Swedish 30k army didn't attack because you had military leader, and maybe a better tech level(check from "comparison").
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Yeah, it's starting to look like something now
The Swedes attack me with 24k once, and lost badly. So yeah, they must have been afraid of attacking me more. But it is still strange they didn't try to liberate Svealand while von Plettenberg was in Gästrikland. They just sat idle in Västergötland.
The Swedes attack me with 24k once, and lost badly. So yeah, they must have been afraid of attacking me more. But it is still strange they didn't try to liberate Svealand while von Plettenberg was in Gästrikland. They just sat idle in Västergötland.
Till
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All those wars and only a BB rating of 10? I guess honouring treaties and not annexing countries really makes a difference!
What tech level are your neighbours at? Medieval 6 seems quite good for your current point in time.
What tech level are your neighbours at? Medieval 6 seems quite good for your current point in time.
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I haven't annexed anyone (yet), and tried to be as "nice" as possible when declaring war. This way I have got away from gaining lots of BB points. If I had declared war on Sweden (relations -199) in the last war, I would have got 4 BB just from DoW'ing. Instead I got 2 BB when DoW'ing Brandenburg I guess the BB will rise much if I manage to capture lots of provinces in an offensive war.
Currently (1517) my neighbours have these landtechs: Russia 4, Lithuania 3, Poland 6, Sweden 5, Denmark 9 and Norway 6. I will soon reach level 7 (in 1519), when the research costs drop considerably. Then it is a short way to level 9. Only Denmark is a threat considering technology (and the Ottomans, at level 10!)
I guess the BB will rise much if I manage to capture lots of provinces in an offensive war.Currently (1517) my neighbours have these landtechs: Russia 4, Lithuania 3, Poland 6, Sweden 5, Denmark 9 and Norway 6. I will soon reach level 7 (in 1519), when the research costs drop considerably. Then it is a short way to level 9
. Only Denmark is a threat considering technology (and the Ottomans, at level 10!)Bad Player
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Hi this game looks pretty fun! What is it called? I see from OP that you put a mod of some kind on too? What's the name of that please?
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Excellent job cutting Sweden in two!
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Even if no battles had been fought between the Livonian Order and Brandenburg, Brandenburg refused to sign a white peace. Sigh. Therefore, warexhaustion continued to mount. Fortunately, the empires stability was at +1, so no revolts should occur. von Plettenberg is sent from Gästrikland to Småland - there are 23k Danish soldiers in Skåne. Wonder what they are up to. If they should declare war on me, I will send my fleet to The Sund, the sea west of Skåne. This way Danish soldiers can't cross over the strait, giving me several benefits. I don't know how big the Danish fleet is, but I think the Livonian fleet has a good chance to beat them. In January 1516 Brandenbrug finally settled for a white peace. It was now time to rebuild the Empires new territory. The bailiffs in Gästrikland and Småland were promoted.
On the 30th of January 1518 a major event struck which will change the future plans for the Livonian Order drastically. Brandenburg, which had built many troops but never had the change to use them in their war against me, found a new target: Lithuania. Lithuania asked Poland to join the war, but they refused! Seeing this, I was a bit surprised - I thought Poland never would let Lithuania down. I decided to refuse Lithuanias offer to join too. There was two reasons for this. First of all, I had just finished the war with Brandenburg, and we had a truce. Joining Lithuanias side would have broken the truce, and the stability in the Empire would have plummeted. Second of all, warexhaustion was still high. Joining the war would for sure have spawned alot of rebels, which is always very annoying. I refused the offer to join the war, and was therefore kicked out of the alliance, along with Poland. I still had good relations with Poland, so I asked them to join my alliance, and they accepted. I'm not so happy by leaving Lithuania, since they were a nice buffer vs Russia. However, I'm much better than Russia techwise, so I don't fear them as much as before.
Seeing the drastic changes in alliances around the Baltic Sea, Norway decided to take advantage of the situation. Their target was the most dishonourable nation in the area - the Livonian Order! Damn! Was perhaps a bit too much BB in my last war. They brought with them Denmark and Order of St. John. Since I was now alliance leader, I decided to bring Poland into the war. Fortunately, von Plettenberg was standing ready in Småland to be ready for Danish aggresion. As for the nortern Livonian Empire, it is completely undefended. Norway could cause some trouble up there. But I have another leader in backhand - Jesper Linde (2,3,3,0) waiting in Estland. He could be used to fight the Norwegians if it should be necessary. As feared, the Danish and Norwegians attack. The Danish are going after Småland. They send 23k men to fight von Plettenberg (in May 1518), and the Danish have one big benefit - firearms.
von Plettenbergs men are quickly demoralized by this new Danish invention, so it is a big defeat. The Livonian army retreat onto the Livonian fleet and are sent back to Kurland. Fortunately, Norway doesn't have firearms yet, so fighting them should be much easier. They have currently 10k men in Kola, siegeing the fortress there. Gästrikland is also under siege, by a joint force from Norway and Denmark.
With Skåne almost undefended, von Plettenberg is sent to siege it. Even with firearms, the Danish in small numbers can't beat von Plettenberg with his large cavalry and infantry army. The Danes doesn't have superior techs at naval warfare yet, so the 26 galleys in the Livonian fleet still is superior in the Baltic Sea. The fleet is sent to The Sund while von Plettenberg is siegeing. While this happens, the "Protestant" event shows up (1519). I guess most of my provinces will convert to protestantism sooner or later.
The siege of Skåne is over after only four months. Denmark surprisingly quickly offer 125 ducats in peaceoffer (December 1519). Knowing that the Danes soon will capture both Småland and Gästrikland, I accept. Risking that von Plettenbergs army would meet a big Danish army with lots of infantry wouldn't be so smart. I cannot afford to lose that man! Just like Brandenburg, Denmark wasn't happy with the results of the war against the Livonian Order. Bremen was the their next target. This would be a big mistake by the Danes, since they would be fighting Brandenburg and Cleves as well.
Lithuania had a hard time without the protection from Poland. Danzig was captured by Cleves, and they got it in a peacedeal! Now it will be even harder to get it More nations wanted a piece of the cake, so the Ottomans DoW'ed Hungary (Lithuanias allied). I guess Lithuania will become a minor nation in the next few years. Same thing with Hungary. It was turbulent times indeed - Sweden decided in 1521 to declare war on Norway. All nations in the alliances joined - almost all of northern and eastern Europe was now at war. The only big nation which is missing is Russia (and Poland and Livonian Order). With the peaceful times within the Livonian Order, warexhaustion has finally disappered.
Watching the wars in Europe is quite fun. The one-province minor Bremen managed to keep away the Danes, and went after Norway. They got Iceland and Narvik after a peacedeal! While watching the wars, the first Livonian provinces convert to protestantism - Kurland was first in 1523. Some other important thing happens in this year: Land tech level 9 is reached! This will give infantry fire-phases during combat, in addition to shock-phases. The Danes will now get a tougher enemy to beat if the attack the Order again. As for the Danes, here is the result after their war against Bremen and allies:
The German alliance have crushed the Danes
Sweden was weakened after Gästrikland was given to the Livonian Order. However, they made a smart move: they DoW'ed Norway, which was weakened in their war against Bremen. The result after the war was this:
Sweden has access to Finland again! They got Jämtland from Norway in a peace deal.
On the 30th of January 1518 a major event struck which will change the future plans for the Livonian Order drastically. Brandenburg, which had built many troops but never had the change to use them in their war against me, found a new target: Lithuania. Lithuania asked Poland to join the war, but they refused! Seeing this, I was a bit surprised - I thought Poland never would let Lithuania down. I decided to refuse Lithuanias offer to join too. There was two reasons for this. First of all, I had just finished the war with Brandenburg, and we had a truce. Joining Lithuanias side would have broken the truce, and the stability in the Empire would have plummeted. Second of all, warexhaustion was still high. Joining the war would for sure have spawned alot of rebels, which is always very annoying. I refused the offer to join the war, and was therefore kicked out of the alliance, along with Poland. I still had good relations with Poland, so I asked them to join my alliance, and they accepted. I'm not so happy by leaving Lithuania, since they were a nice buffer vs Russia. However, I'm much better than Russia techwise, so I don't fear them as much as before.
Seeing the drastic changes in alliances around the Baltic Sea, Norway decided to take advantage of the situation. Their target was the most dishonourable nation in the area - the Livonian Order! Damn! Was perhaps a bit too much BB in my last war
. They brought with them Denmark and Order of St. John. Since I was now alliance leader, I decided to bring Poland into the war. Fortunately, von Plettenberg was standing ready in Småland to be ready for Danish aggresion. As for the nortern Livonian Empire, it is completely undefended. Norway could cause some trouble up there. But I have another leader in backhand - Jesper Linde (2,3,3,0) waiting in Estland. He could be used to fight the Norwegians if it should be necessary. As feared, the Danish and Norwegians attack. The Danish are going after Småland. They send 23k men to fight von Plettenberg (in May 1518), and the Danish have one big benefit - firearms.
Danish troops on their way to Småland, and Norwegian troops on their way to Kola. Notice the army from Cleves going to Danzig
von Plettenbergs men are quickly demoralized by this new Danish invention, so it is a big defeat. The Livonian army retreat onto the Livonian fleet and are sent back to Kurland. Fortunately, Norway doesn't have firearms yet, so fighting them should be much easier. They have currently 10k men in Kola, siegeing the fortress there. Gästrikland is also under siege, by a joint force from Norway and Denmark.
With Skåne almost undefended, von Plettenberg is sent to siege it. Even with firearms, the Danish in small numbers can't beat von Plettenberg with his large cavalry and infantry army. The Danes doesn't have superior techs at naval warfare yet, so the 26 galleys in the Livonian fleet still is superior in the Baltic Sea. The fleet is sent to The Sund while von Plettenberg is siegeing. While this happens, the "Protestant" event shows up (1519). I guess most of my provinces will convert to protestantism sooner or later.
The siege of Skåne is over after only four months. Denmark surprisingly quickly offer 125 ducats in peaceoffer (December 1519). Knowing that the Danes soon will capture both Småland and Gästrikland, I accept. Risking that von Plettenbergs army would meet a big Danish army with lots of infantry wouldn't be so smart. I cannot afford to lose that man! Just like Brandenburg, Denmark wasn't happy with the results of the war against the Livonian Order. Bremen was the their next target. This would be a big mistake by the Danes, since they would be fighting Brandenburg and Cleves as well.
Lithuania had a hard time without the protection from Poland. Danzig was captured by Cleves, and they got it in a peacedeal! Now it will be even harder to get it
More nations wanted a piece of the cake, so the Ottomans DoW'ed Hungary (Lithuanias allied). I guess Lithuania will become a minor nation in the next few years. Same thing with Hungary. It was turbulent times indeed - Sweden decided in 1521 to declare war on Norway. All nations in the alliances joined - almost all of northern and eastern Europe was now at war. The only big nation which is missing is Russia (and Poland and Livonian Order). With the peaceful times within the Livonian Order, warexhaustion has finally disappered. Watching the wars in Europe is quite fun. The one-province minor Bremen managed to keep away the Danes, and went after Norway. They got Iceland and Narvik after a peacedeal! While watching the wars, the first Livonian provinces convert to protestantism - Kurland was first in 1523. Some other important thing happens in this year: Land tech level 9 is reached! This will give infantry fire-phases during combat, in addition to shock-phases. The Danes will now get a tougher enemy to beat if the attack the Order again. As for the Danes, here is the result after their war against Bremen and allies:
The German alliance have crushed the Danes
Sweden was weakened after Gästrikland was given to the Livonian Order. However, they made a smart move: they DoW'ed Norway, which was weakened in their war against Bremen. The result after the war was this:
Sweden has access to Finland again! They got Jämtland from Norway in a peace deal.
Olav
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In the last update I forgot one important thing: to save 
. Fortunately autosave is on, so I only lost 8 months. I have played those months and everything was "normal": Brandenburg got Skåne and Cleves got Holstein. However, the only thing that went wrong was that Sweden didn't get Jämtland. I tried to reload a couple of times, but they didn't get it on either of the tries. Ah well, the same mistake will not happen again!
Having a BB close to ten, I will not be aggressive the next years. But if someone decides to declare war on me, I will use the opportunity to gain some provinces. Also, if I recieve a event which gives me a casus belli against either Denmark or Lithuania, I will most probably use it. Sweden is also a "good" target, if I gain a CB on them.
As the game progresses, Lithuania is in a war with Russia. Russia goes quickly after Novgorod, so I will follow this closely. Lithuania seem to keep them at bay at the moment (1526). The same year both Austria and the Ottomans DoW'ed Hungary after Hungary broke the vassalization she had with Poland. In 1527 Ryazan declares independence from Poland. Of course Poland DoW's them, and they ask me to join the war. I accept. I don't think Poland will be able to reach Ryazan, since they don't have military access with Lithuania. This could be a good opportunity for the Livonian Order to get a vassal, so von Plettenberg is sent to Vorones (Ryazans province). von Plettenberg arrives in Vorones in October 1527, and annihilates the newly recruited army there.
In addition to firearms, von Plettenberg brought a new invention, artillery. Sieges will now go even faster. However, not fast enough to capture the province before the winter, so the army retreated while waiting for the spring. In the winter the war between Lithuania and Russia is over, and no provinces were (fortunately) lost to either side. As for Hungary, they had to give three provinces to Austria, and they became vassals of the Ottomans.
A new try to capture Vorones is initiated in March 1528. The ten artillery in von Plettenbergs army show their "skill", so the province is captured in 6 months. Warscore is 100%, so Ryazan accepts our offer of vassalization, military access and 25 ducats. von Plettenberg is sent back to Kurland. When he arrived in Kurland, I adjusted the domestic slider. I finally reached the point where the armies and fleets get +1 fire value.
A new source of income
More and more provinces in the Empire is converting to protestantism. Sweden converted already in 1531, with only three protestant provinces. I will do it too, but wait until I get more converted provinces. As for foreign affairs, Denmark got their revenge on Bremen, and annexed them in 1531. Russia wasn't idle either, they DoW'ed my vassal Ryazan. I didn't ask them to join my alliance, so they are on their own. The Russians really wanted that province: they assaulted it with 33k men. After they had successfully captured the province, they annexed Ryazan. Oh well, I couldn't expect to have them as vassals forever.
In 1535 the inevitable happened: von Plettenberg died. He proved himself as a most successful monarch and military leader, expanding the Orders borders all around the Baltic Sea. Fortunately, a new leader appeared: Johann von der Recke (2,4,4,0). Not much to do for him at the moment though.
Nein!
In 1536 I felt the time had come to convert to protestantism. It will give me 25 ducats for every province I own, but I will also lose alot of stabilitypoints. The official date for the conversion was the 1 July 1536. Stability dropped to -3, and the alliance with (the catholic) Poland was broken. However, I asked them to recreate our alliance, and they accepted. The treasury increased with almost 400 ducats!
Not to much happened the last decade with the Order, as you have seen. Therefore, the Orders reputation have got a bit better, currently BB rating is at 8. When it reach 5-6 I might consider attacking someone. Here is the current situation in Europe - Austria and Spain are the biggest. Honorable mentions also goes to the Livonian Order .
Ottoman Empire in Narvik!
. Fortunately autosave is on, so I only lost 8 months. I have played those months and everything was "normal": Brandenburg got Skåne and Cleves got Holstein. However, the only thing that went wrong was that Sweden didn't get Jämtland. I tried to reload a couple of times, but they didn't get it on either of the tries. Ah well, the same mistake will not happen again!Having a BB close to ten, I will not be aggressive the next years. But if someone decides to declare war on me, I will use the opportunity to gain some provinces. Also, if I recieve a event which gives me a casus belli against either Denmark or Lithuania, I will most probably use it. Sweden is also a "good" target, if I gain a CB on them.
As the game progresses, Lithuania is in a war with Russia. Russia goes quickly after Novgorod, so I will follow this closely. Lithuania seem to keep them at bay at the moment (1526). The same year both Austria and the Ottomans DoW'ed Hungary after Hungary broke the vassalization she had with Poland. In 1527 Ryazan declares independence from Poland. Of course Poland DoW's them, and they ask me to join the war. I accept. I don't think Poland will be able to reach Ryazan, since they don't have military access with Lithuania. This could be a good opportunity for the Livonian Order to get a vassal, so von Plettenberg is sent to Vorones (Ryazans province). von Plettenberg arrives in Vorones in October 1527, and annihilates the newly recruited army there.
von Plettenberg: Cultural Learnings of Ryazan for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Livonian Order
In addition to firearms, von Plettenberg brought a new invention, artillery. Sieges will now go even faster. However, not fast enough to capture the province before the winter, so the army retreated while waiting for the spring. In the winter the war between Lithuania and Russia is over, and no provinces were (fortunately) lost to either side. As for Hungary, they had to give three provinces to Austria, and they became vassals of the Ottomans.
A new try to capture Vorones is initiated in March 1528. The ten artillery in von Plettenbergs army show their "skill", so the province is captured in 6 months. Warscore is 100%, so Ryazan accepts our offer of vassalization, military access and 25 ducats. von Plettenberg is sent back to Kurland. When he arrived in Kurland, I adjusted the domestic slider. I finally reached the point where the armies and fleets get +1 fire value.
A new source of income
More and more provinces in the Empire is converting to protestantism. Sweden converted already in 1531, with only three protestant provinces. I will do it too, but wait until I get more converted provinces. As for foreign affairs, Denmark got their revenge on Bremen, and annexed them in 1531. Russia wasn't idle either, they DoW'ed my vassal Ryazan. I didn't ask them to join my alliance, so they are on their own. The Russians really wanted that province: they assaulted it with 33k men. After they had successfully captured the province, they annexed Ryazan. Oh well, I couldn't expect to have them as vassals forever.
In 1535 the inevitable happened: von Plettenberg died. He proved himself as a most successful monarch and military leader, expanding the Orders borders all around the Baltic Sea. Fortunately, a new leader appeared: Johann von der Recke (2,4,4,0). Not much to do for him at the moment though.
Nein!
In 1536 I felt the time had come to convert to protestantism. It will give me 25 ducats for every province I own, but I will also lose alot of stabilitypoints. The official date for the conversion was the 1 July 1536. Stability dropped to -3, and the alliance with (the catholic) Poland was broken. However, I asked them to recreate our alliance, and they accepted. The treasury increased with almost 400 ducats!
Not to much happened the last decade with the Order, as you have seen. Therefore, the Orders reputation have got a bit better, currently BB rating is at 8. When it reach 5-6 I might consider attacking someone
. Here is the current situation in Europe - Austria and Spain are the biggest. Honorable mentions also goes to the Livonian Order .
Ottoman Empire in Narvik!
Darth_Pugwash
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Great!
Reading AARs like this always makes me want to buy EU2, but I am holding back as EU3 is getting close.
Reading AARs like this always makes me want to buy EU2, but I am holding back as EU3 is getting close.
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