The New Constitution

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Shaitan

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The following post in this thread will contain a proposed revision of the entire Constitution. I was working on changes to fix the VP confusion and wondering how in blazes we all missed the part about only the Pres being able to initiate Council votes for a month. Anyway, I started moving this thing over here and that thing into this section and ended up rewriting the whole thing.

This revision is for clarity only. No content was intentionally changed except the Naming Rights and Council Votes sections were changed to the popularly approved versions. The organization is more intuitive and it is formatted for clarity.

What do you think? Like it? Hate it? More specifically, what parts do you not like? Do you see anywhere that can be improved even more before I start a popular poll on it? I don't want to make this into a Constitutional Congress so please don't suggest new content at this time - just additional suggestions for clarity.

Note that it appears to be much longer now but it actually isn't. It's just got spaces between the lines to make reading easier.
 
Section A: Game Dynamics

Article 1: No ONE is allowed to download and play out a saved game. This is grounds for impeachment and/or eviction from the Democracy game. All citizens may load and view a save game but no action within the game is permitted.

Article 2: Turn rate is 10 turns every 2 days. This can be modified during the turn chat with a spot Council Vote.

Article 3: The game consists of the Executive Branch, The Council, Governors, Citizens and Moderators.

Article 4: The President will post the specific time and date for the next turn chat at least 24 hours before the chat starts. This should be in GMT and posted in the chat thread.

Article 5: The designated player (see Chain of Command) should start the chat at least 10 minutes before the scheduled time and begin play at the specified start time.

Article 6: If the designated player is more than 10 minutes late a new player will be chosen from the officials present following the Chain of Command.

Article 7: Once a player has started playing, he/she is the designated player for that chat turn and will not relinquish play to a late arriving but higher ranked official.

Article 8: Once the turn is finished the designated player will post a save game and turn info. Screen shots should also be uploaded for review.

Article 9: Polls and discussions should be posted after the turn info has been posted.

Article 10: Flag and Nation Name changes can ONLY be presented in times of Anarchy, while the nation is changing to a new government.

Section B: Government

Article 1: Six council members each head a department. Departments are Domestic, Foreign, Military, Science, Culture and Trade. Two council members are "at-large", are responsible only to the citizens and have no direct governmental responsibilities.

Article 2: Below the department heads are the deputy leaders. They make decisions in the absence of their departmental leader.

Article 3: Civilian agencies/groups may form to do a certain task. Examples include a history tracking group or activists against War.

Article 4: There will be NO political parties.

Section C: The Executive Branch

Article 1: The President is responsible for actually playing the game. He/she also gathers info from other Department Heads on how the game is to be played.

Article 2: The President may break ties and make decisions that haven't been made by department heads.

Article 3: The President may initiate certain Council votes.

Article 4: The President is the Department Head of the Department Head's and has privileges thereof.

Article 5: The Vice President is the deputy of the Executive Branch and takes over in the event that the President is missing.

Section D: The Cabinet

Article 1: The Cabinet consists of the Six Department Heads plus two Council Members At-Large.

Article 2: The Department heads duties include deciding their department policy and activities based on the wishes of the citizens. Department heads should post polls and posts to get citizen input. With the poll results and input they give instructions and advice to the President who then plays them out in the game.

Article 3: The Department heads have the right to break ties on polls in their departments and make decisions on their own. In case of forum outage or low participation they would be allowed to make all decision in their related area.

Article 4: At-large council members are responsible for representing the will of the people in Cabinet Votes. They will poll for popular opinion on prospective Cabinet issues and MUST vote according to those poll results.

Section E: Departments

Article 1: Military Leader: Makes decisions on military actions, defense, and (if war has been declared) war time actions. Reports military decisions to the President. Can override Governors on production issues during time of invasion (when there are troops in our territory from a country we are at war with). Takes over from the President when the Economy has been placed in Mobilization mode).

Article 2: Science Leader: Decides technology goals through research, espionage, and conquering.

Article 3: Cultural Leader: Makes decisions regarding city expansion and construction of cultural city improvements. The Cultural leader can override a governor's decisions for the construction of cultural improvement's.

Article 4: Foreign Minister: Makes decisions regarding Diplomatic relations such as war, peace, Right of Passage treaties and Mutual Defense Pacts.

Article 5: Trade Leader: Makes decisions and provides advice to the President on establishing trade deals. Tracks the status and expiration dates on established deals, advising the President and other council members of the same.

Article 6: Domestic Leader: Makes decisions about settler placement, wonder building and budget. Is responsible for setting the science/lux/tax rate. He/she is also the Provincial Governor of the Capital Province.

Section F: Governors and Provinces

Article 1: A governor controls the production (building queues) of the cities within a province. A governor's production decision can be overturned by a council vote or by the Military Leader during time of invasion.

Article 2: Provincial borders are geography based and will be approved by a council vote. A Province may contain any number of cities. Provincial borders should be defined ahead of territorial expansion.

Article 3: The Domestic leader is the governor of the capitol province. The citizens elect governors for other provinces. Regular gubernatorial elections are held for all provinces that contain at least 1 city.

Article 4: The Domestic leader is the defacto governor for provinces acquired between election years. A special election will be held for a new governor when a newly acquired province grows to 3 or more cities.

Article 5: The Governor controls tile use within his/her province when those tiles lie within a city radius. If Province A wishes to use tiles from Province B that are within the city radius of a Province B city, Governor A must get permission from Governor B. If no city in Province B could use the tiles, Governor A would not need Governor B's permission to use them.

Section G: Citizens

Article 1: Every citizen belongs to a city of the nation and can move to other cities when they please. This should be updated it the Citizens' registry.

Article 2: Every citizen has the duty of voting in election polls, opinion polls and posting their view on different events.

Article 3: Citizens can't hold polls on rule changes or any matter of state covered by a department.

Artilce 4: If a citizen would like a rule changed or a matter of state changed they may start a topic on the proposed rule or change. Once the discussion is complete a citizen may request a poll to be posted by a Moderator or the member of the Cabinet where the change would be affected.

Article 5: Citizens can request that a leader hold a poll for a specific matter if they don't agree with the leader's decision.

Article 6: If a citizen is refused in his/her request for a poll they may post a poll of their own to see if there is public support for their request of a poll. If the poll returns more YES than NO votes the citizen's request for a poll must be honored by the Moderator or Cabinet Member.

Section H: Moderators

Article 1: Moderators are responsible for handling elections, site maintenance and record keeping on the members, polls, etc.

Article 2: They are also responsible for clarifying the Constitution if there is confusion on one or more of its points.

Article 3: These are NOT elected positions. They have NO council Power.

Section I: Elections

Article 1: Elections will be held for the Presidency, each Council position and each Provincial Governor position.

Article 2: Terms last 30 days

Article 3: There are no Term Limits.

Article 4: Only existing council members may run for the presidency. Other elections are open to all citizens. Runner-ups for department heads automatically become deputy leaders for that department. The runner up in the presidential election becomes the Vice President.

Article 5: There are two polls for the At-Large positions, one for the Senior position and one for the Junior position. These polls share the same candidate pool.

Article 6: If there are no runner-ups the new leader can appoint a deputy. (Deputies are not a required position.)

Article 7: On day 24 of the term, nominations begin. On day 29 the Moderators will post polls for all positions of nominated members. On day 31 a winner is declared, and a new term begins.

Article 8: We will allow Self-Nomination.

Article 9: Citizens can run for a maximum of two positions but may only hold one department leader position at a time. Citizens are allowed to serve as Leader and Deputy Leader in two different departments. Thus if they win 2 elections they must choose one and the runner-up of the unselected position will be declared the winner.

Article 10: Citizens can hold multiple Deputy Positions..

Article 11: The Moderator runs the election, starts, edits and closes polls.

Article 12: A civilian organization can be formed to construct the questions for the nominees. These questions are given to the Moderator who conducts a debate. No one is allowed to post in the thread except for the participants and Moderator.

Article 13: The Moderator may run Primaries if there are over five nominees for a department.

Article 14: In the event of a tie, a second election will be run with only the nominees that were tied.

Section J: Impeachment

Article 1: It may become evident that an elected official isn't making decisions based on the results of the opinon polls.

Article 2: Anyone can call an impeachment hearing and pose evidence against an elected official.

Article 3: The accused is given an opportunity to defend themselves.

Article 4: A Moderator acts as Judge and initiates an Impeachment Cabinet Vote.

Article 5: The remaining council members vote.

Article 6: While an Impeachment trial is ongoing the deputy leader takes over for the leader in question.

Section K: Chain of Command

Article 1: In the event of the absence or death of one or more council members, this Chain of Command will dictate who should take over.

Article 2: COC
  • President
  • Vice President
  • Domestic Leader
  • Military Leader
  • Foreign Minister
  • Science Leader
  • Cultural Leader
  • Trade Leader
  • Senior Council Member At-Large
  • Junior Council Member At-Large
  • Domestic Deputy
  • Military Deputy
  • Foreign Deputy
  • Science Deputy
  • Cultural Deputy
  • Trade Deputy
  • Remaining Elected Officials (example - Governors)
  • Appointed Officials (example - Designated Chat Representatives)

Article 3: If the COC should fall to the "Remaining Elected Officials" or "Appointed Officials" a spot vote will be conducted in the Turn Chat to determine which Elected Official will play the game.

Section L: Council Votes

Article 1: Council votes are very powerful and can affect the very fabric of the game. Only Council members may vote.

Article 2: Polled council votes will last a minimum of 48 hours or until all council members have responded. Spot votes (in the Turn Chat) will be tallied and carried immediately.

Article 3: Impeachment votes are called by the Moderators following citizen complaint. An affirmative result removes an elected official from office.

Article 4: Administrative votes are called by the President. An affirmative result overrules an elected official's instructions and decisions for game play.

Article 5: Legislative votes are called by any Council member or the President. An affirmative result alters or amends the Constitution. The President can veto a legislative vote, preventing a change in the constitution.

Article 6: Mobilization votes are called by the President, Military Leader or Domestic Leader. An affirmative result places the economy in Mobilization mode.

Article 7: Spot votes are Administrative votes carried out within the turn chat. They are called by the designated player.

Article 8: A plurality of the responding voters is required for a Council Vote to pass. The President may cast a vote to break a tie. The President does not otherwise vote.

Section M: Naming Rites

Article 1: Naming rights for new cities will be given following the Chain of Command. When more than one citizen has the same spot in the COC (example - "Elected Officials" group) rank will be determined by their seniority as a citizen (who signed the Registry first). This priority chain will be rearranged by elections as different people move up and down the Chain of Command.

Article 2: The designated player will decide if a captured city is subject to renaming. He/She will post this decision for each newly captured city with the turn brief and save game. Renaming rights follow the chain in Point 1 above.

Article 3: Provinces will be named by the first elected governor of the province.

Article 4: Natural terrain features (mountain chains, lakes, deserts, etc) may be named by Provincial Governors. If the Provincial Governor does not wish to name a feature it may be passed to the naming rights chain in Point 1 above.

Article 5: A newly elected governor may request name changes for cities within his/her province. This can only be done in the first week of the governor's term of office. The governor will post a poll with the suggested name change in an APPROVED / DISAPPROVED / ABSTAIN format and a 2 day time frame. Popular support will allow or deny the proposed name change.

Article 6: Naming rights must pass through all citizens before a citizen is given a second naming right in the chain (from Point 1). That is, if you've already named a city you do not get to name another one because you moved positions in the Chain of Command.
 
I like it and this needed to be done. The document is still a bit confusing and here are the things I feel need clarification. (Warning - it may take a Constitutional Convention to clarify everything!)

Sec. A, Art. 2: "On demand" is a very vague clause that can be interpreted in many ways.

Sec. D, Art. 3: It is not clear what ties department heads can break. (I assume this refers to a tied poll.)

Sec. E, Art. 1: The term 'invasion' is not clearly defined. Does it mean when enemy units are within our borders or does it mean anytime that we are at war?

Sec. F, Art. 1: Can also be overturned by Military leader during an invasion.

Sec. F, Art. 3: Do the elections here refer to 'regular' elections (when we elect the President, etc.) as opposed to 'special' elections in article 4?

Sec. G, Art. 3: "Citizens can't hold polls on rule changes, or any matter of state (i.e. covered by any department)..." This makes it sound as though citizens can't post any usefull polls of their own. Is this article referring to binding polls and council votes or to public opinion polls as well?

Sec. J, Art. 1: Should be 'elected official'. Also, does 'voted on' refer to council votes or public opinion polls?

Sec. M, Art. 4: Oceans is mis-spelled.:)

Overall: Are the terms 'cabinet' and 'council' interchangeable? Do the At Large members vote in administrative and legislative votes?
 
Originally posted by donsig

Sec. E, Art. 1: The term 'invasion' is not clearly defined. Does it mean when enemy units are within our borders or does it mean anytime that we are at war?

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Excellent work Shaitan.

Clarification beyond even Donsig's comment is required here.

The term moblization needs to be defined as selecting the war mobilization economy option. Further, I would expect that we need to clearly state that making such a move would require a cabinet vote.

Bill
 
Bill and Donsig's suggestions have been incorporated into the working copy. I split it between the two posts due to character count. I'll edit to bring back down to under 15,000 characters when I've got a bit more time.
 
I agree that Section G: Articles 3 - 6 need work, maybe even stripped down and re-worded. According to these articles a citizen may not post a poll on rule changes or any matter of the state covered by a department. This pretty much covers everthing in the game.
They can go to a leader and request that the leader run a poll, but the leader may take a couple of days getting back to them with an answer, and if that answer is "NO", then the citizen can run a poll to find out if there is enough public support to run a poll. If there is enough public support to run a poll, the citizen has to go back to the Leader (hopefully they've asked the right leader..) who may take a couple of days in responding. Totally futile. Seems more communistic than democratic to me. Of course that's just my opinion, which leader should I ask to run a poll on this?
edit: Shaitan you must have posted that last reply just as i started working on this
 
I agree with the sentiments regarding citizen polls and have added that to my list of Constitution changes to propose. For this rewrite I'm only concerned with explaining and expressing the existing sentiment of the document and Ducky's elaborations on them.
 
In addition to revamping Section G (citizen polls) I think Section E, Artilce 1 needs work. We've defined invasion clearly enough for now.:)

The proposed new wording for Section A, Article 2 replaces 'on demand' with the concept of 'a spot council vote'. That's more in line with what I thought the intention of the clause was. However that wording doesn't mesh well with Section L (Council Votes). When I first read over the proposed New Constitution I assumed Adminstrative Votes were the votes deemed necessary during turn chat. Upon re-reading that section I have the following view of council votes:

Council Votes is the overall name given to these votes. There are 4 proposed types of council votes: impeachment, administrative, legislative and mobilization. Only certain officials can initiate certain types of votes but two things apply to all council votes: 1) they last a minimum of 48 hours or until all council members have responded; and 2) "A simple majority of the votes is required for a Council Vote to pass."

The first item pretty much rules out a council vote taking place during turn chat unless all council members are present. I'm sure it was intended for the president or whoever is running the game to be able to hold a spur of the moment cabinet vote during turn chat. (Of course this leads to the question of whether deputies and/or chat reps can vote in these 'spot' council votes.)

As for the second item, a simple majority (to me) means 4 affirmative votes if there are 6 council members or 5 affirmative votes if there are 8 council members. This could also hinder spot council votes during turn chat since there would have to be a majority of council members present for any vote to hope to pass!

Seems to me that any spot council votes during turn chat will need different rules applied to them.
 
I am glad you are doing this, Shaitan, as someone definately needed to.:goodjob: The new draft is much less confusing.

As far as turns played, I suggest that 10 be the limit unless there are sufficient cabinet members available to have a majority vote to play more, and they vote that way. Any cabinet members that are absent from the chat are assumed to have voted that the 10 turn limit should be adhered to. If one half of the full cabinet votes to continue for more turns, the president may go ahead and break the tie, as it is assumed that all absent leaders voted no. Thus, if 4 cabinet members are present, and all vote yes for playing more than 10 turns, then the president may effectively break the tie, and more turns can be played. Less than 4 cabinet votes means the turns must be stopped at 10.
 
Are deputies allowed to vote as council members during turn chat if the respective leader is absent? In your proposal eyrei should it be 'president' or 'whoever is running the game'? Should we consider 'whoever is running the game' to be 'acting president' during that turn chat?
 
Originally posted by donsig
The first item pretty much rules out a council vote taking place during turn chat unless all council members are present. I'm sure it was intended for the president or whoever is running the game to be able to hold a spur of the moment cabinet vote during turn chat. (Of course this leads to the question of whether deputies and/or chat reps can vote in these 'spot' council votes.)

As for the second item, a simple majority (to me) means 4 affirmative votes if there are 6 council members or 5 affirmative votes if there are 8 council members. This could also hinder spot council votes during turn chat since there would have to be a majority of council members present for any vote to hope to pass!

Seems to me that any spot council votes during turn chat will need different rules applied to them.
Added clarifier to Council Votes. Spot votes are called by the playing official and tallied immediately. All our votes are by plurality so to carry it needs a simple majority of the respondents. Added this to the Council Votes section. In other words, if there are 5 council members who respond to a poll, 3 votes will carry.
Deputies take over the office when the Leader is not present. They vote, make decisions, etc.

Originally posted by Eyrei
As far as turns played, I suggest that 10 be the limit unless there are sufficient cabinet members available to have a majority vote to play more, and they vote that way. Any cabinet members that are absent from the chat are assumed to have voted that the 10 turn limit should be adhered to. If one half of the full cabinet votes to continue for more turns, the president may go ahead and break the tie, as it is assumed that all absent leaders voted no. Thus, if 4 cabinet members are present, and all vote yes for playing more than 10 turns, then the president may effectively break the tie, and more turns can be played. Less than 4 cabinet votes means the turns must be stopped at 10.
I don't think we should put special strictures on this. If only a handful of departments are represented then that handful is the defacto government at the time and should be able to exercise their leadership duties.
Originally posted by donsig
Should we consider 'whoever is running the game' to be 'acting president' during that turn chat?
Absolutely. That's what the Chain of Command is all about.
 
I've edited it again, this time for brevity. It fits in one post again (with 250 characters to spare!).

There was one functional change. The At-Large Council position was a single poll election with the top candidate becoming the Senior councilperson and the runner up becoming the Junior councilperson. This was a convention put in to clarify the Chain of Command. Popular response has not been popular. People want to vote for two people for the two positions. I edited that section to provide two polls, one for the Senior position and one for the Junior position.
 
Can the terms "Senior" and "Junior" be removed from the Council member title? The "Junior" may then be replaced with "Co-". This change affects only terms in the "Elections" and "COC" sections.

I think the new terms are as clear about the positional hierarchy. What we lose are the implications of the words "Senior" and "Junior", which are not really relevant here.
 
Originally posted by chiefpaco
Can the terms "Senior" and "Junior" be removed from the Council member title? The "Junior" may then be replaced with "Co-". This change affects only terms in the "Elections" and "COC" sections.

I think the new terms are as clear about the positional hierarchy. What we lose are the implications of the words "Senior" and "Junior", which are not really relevant here.
This document as written is already up for Council vote but I'd be happy to champion an amendment to change these titles once that vote is completed.

Think about what titles you'd like though. It can't be "Council Member" and "Co-Council Member" as all of the officials are Council Members. Some suggestions:

  • Council Member At-Large / Co-Council Member At-Large
  • Primus Citizen Council Member / Secundus Citizen Council Member
  • Citizen Representative / Citizen Co-Representative
  • Senior Council Member At-Large / Chief Council Member At-Large
  • Senior Council Member At-Large / Council Member At-Large

Some connotation of superior position should be okay. After all, the Senior is higher on the Chain of Command than the Junior.
 
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