Has anyone ever brought up the idea of incorporating the Olympics into Civilization? Players could put certain qualified cities into the ring to compete for the right to host the games, presumably after a world or small wonder was built to found and host the first games. Every few years (perhaps not 4, as that could be excessive) a city wins the games and reaps a short and longterm economic and cultural benefit. Always thought that would be a fun concept to add to the mix.
The Olympics?
- Thread starter meiray
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I thought about it in Civ 3 actually, using a special resource. There would only be one of them and it would have a very short duration, like a 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 chance of disappearing. I was going to call it the Olympic Bid and it would allow you to build the Olympic Games/Stadium small wonder. I didn't get around to it though. For one thing, I couldn't quite figure out how to have just one of that resource at any one time.
eddie_verdde
Warlord
meiray said:
You've been playing Zeus-Master of Olympus, haven't you?
Actually, I find it a pretty good idea, I don't know how they passed it...
maybe we'll see it in an expansion or scenario
agoodfella
Prince
I think its a great idea.
You could have a mandatory requirement to have the host nation "rotate" and just like in the real world (e.g. 1980 and 1984 Olympics) you could have certain nations boycott (i.e. warring nations, etc.)
You could have a mandatory requirement to have the host nation "rotate" and just like in the real world (e.g. 1980 and 1984 Olympics) you could have certain nations boycott (i.e. warring nations, etc.)
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AKauhanen
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A Great Olympic Games small wonder is a great idea !
Not all Olympic games are memorable or even significant in the slightest, but some times nations make a Great Olympic Games in historically and strategically important moments.
Every nation should be able to build a Great Olympic Games once in their history and the wonder should give them [and their allies] a national/cultural boost and a boosted level for about 20 turns. In the history of the world this can be infact seen happening by using a little bit of imagination. Greece had it's Great Olympic Games in the time of the wars of survival against Persia and the games created unity among the Greeks city states and boosted their Hellenic national/cultural pride.
Germany made a Great Olympic Games in 1936 just 3 years before the second world war began and it gave the Germans (and their allied nations) a great boost in their national/cultural pride. Germany got 89[!] medals and if you add the medals to the next 10 nations, then the medal count is 177 Axis medals, 106 Allied nation's medals and 20 Neutral Nation's medals. This is a huge propaganda victory to the Axis nations and even more as you compare the relatively small number and small populational size of the Axis nations and note that they still dominated the top 10 places in the world in these specific games. So in my mind The Great Olympic Games gives a boost to all the builders allied nations aswell. Some could even say that this boost saved Finland. Finland had had a extremely bloody civil war just a few years before and almost all sense of national unity or belonging to a "Finnish culture" had dissappeared. A nation what was torn apart just a few years before got a huge restoration to it's national unity from the games. What makes this significant is that just 3 years after these Olympic games the Soviet Union attacked Finland and to the great supprise to the Soviet leadership, the formerly disunited armed forces of Finland had been restored to national unity and they fought united for Finland.
If we look at history we can see that other nations have made a Great Olympic Games in a very strategically wise point in their history.
For example the Soviet Union made a Great Olympic Games in 1980 in it's last death breaths in an effort to keep national unity and avoid the increase of the massive civil strife. Medal distribution in the games: Soviet Union 195 medals and it combined to the next top 10 nations: Soviet Block nations 471 medals, Western Block nations 50 and Neutral nations 12. Even as some nations boycotted the games the propaganda effect and boost in the national pride of the Soviet Block nations was so huge that this effect can't be denied.
Not all Olympic games are memorable or even significant in the slightest, but some times nations make a Great Olympic Games in historically and strategically important moments.
Every nation should be able to build a Great Olympic Games once in their history and the wonder should give them [and their allies] a national/cultural boost and a boosted level for about 20 turns. In the history of the world this can be infact seen happening by using a little bit of imagination. Greece had it's Great Olympic Games in the time of the wars of survival against Persia and the games created unity among the Greeks city states and boosted their Hellenic national/cultural pride.
Germany made a Great Olympic Games in 1936 just 3 years before the second world war began and it gave the Germans (and their allied nations) a great boost in their national/cultural pride. Germany got 89[!] medals and if you add the medals to the next 10 nations, then the medal count is 177 Axis medals, 106 Allied nation's medals and 20 Neutral Nation's medals. This is a huge propaganda victory to the Axis nations and even more as you compare the relatively small number and small populational size of the Axis nations and note that they still dominated the top 10 places in the world in these specific games. So in my mind The Great Olympic Games gives a boost to all the builders allied nations aswell. Some could even say that this boost saved Finland. Finland had had a extremely bloody civil war just a few years before and almost all sense of national unity or belonging to a "Finnish culture" had dissappeared. A nation what was torn apart just a few years before got a huge restoration to it's national unity from the games. What makes this significant is that just 3 years after these Olympic games the Soviet Union attacked Finland and to the great supprise to the Soviet leadership, the formerly disunited armed forces of Finland had been restored to national unity and they fought united for Finland.
If we look at history we can see that other nations have made a Great Olympic Games in a very strategically wise point in their history.
For example the Soviet Union made a Great Olympic Games in 1980 in it's last death breaths in an effort to keep national unity and avoid the increase of the massive civil strife. Medal distribution in the games: Soviet Union 195 medals and it combined to the next top 10 nations: Soviet Block nations 471 medals, Western Block nations 50 and Neutral nations 12. Even as some nations boycotted the games the propaganda effect and boost in the national pride of the Soviet Block nations was so huge that this effect can't be denied.
m15a
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i like the idea, too, although the way described here, it seems better suited for a mod than a standard game. it could easily be a distraction people don't want to deal with all the time.
it would be cool to have an olympics wonder (or national wonder? or both?) that has a more typical effect, though. maybe an olympic stadium national wonder that improves relations with other civs with an olympic stadium (or just all civs to make it simpler)? along with the general effects like added culture and money.
it would be cool to have an olympics wonder (or national wonder? or both?) that has a more typical effect, though. maybe an olympic stadium national wonder that improves relations with other civs with an olympic stadium (or just all civs to make it simpler)? along with the general effects like added culture and money.
Masquerouge
Deity
Olympics Games are a great idea. I see that as a culture boosting small wonder.
What if the Olympics were a system event that occurred at set intervals after the building of the United Nations?
Each CIV would be an automatic particpant.
The winner (or placings) could be calculated by positive demographics (eg. life expectancy, literacy, low pollution etc..)
The results of the Olympics could give culture points (or some other reward) to the winner.
The results could be displayed like 'Plyny (sp?) completes his list of the most powerful nations in the world'
But instead....'The Americans have won the Olympic Games of 2008...and receive 1000 Culture points'
Each CIV would be an automatic particpant.
The winner (or placings) could be calculated by positive demographics (eg. life expectancy, literacy, low pollution etc..)
The results of the Olympics could give culture points (or some other reward) to the winner.
The results could be displayed like 'Plyny (sp?) completes his list of the most powerful nations in the world'
But instead....'The Americans have won the Olympic Games of 2008...and receive 1000 Culture points'
aahz_capone
Warlord
Great ideas! Not only is hosting the olympic games an awesome concept with cool rewards, but actually winning them should be cool. here's how it could work:
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We mod a set of rules so that participating nations (not at war) send one warrior to the host city, and in a single turn they all duke it out to the last man. This guy then wins the olympics! The winning nation then gets a little medal on the score screen or something. A kind of mini spectacle in an otherwise epic game.
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]We mod a set of rules so that participating nations (not at war) send one warrior to the host city, and in a single turn they all duke it out to the last man. This guy then wins the olympics! The winning nation then gets a little medal on the score screen or something. A kind of mini spectacle in an otherwise epic game.
I think it's a great idea as either a small wonder or somehow related to the new civic/diplomacy system. Hosting the games would bring a lot of money and culture to your city. Every so often a vote would come up about choosing a new host city. Only certain cities could qualify for the vote depending upon certain improvements or techs reached. Perhaps every 20 years instead of 4, like the Civ3 vote for Secretary General of the UN. Perhaps the AI could come up with some medal results just for fun.
There were Olympic Games in Rhye's of Civilization
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
What about a football world cup!
Bast
Protector of Cats
I think it should be a Great Wonder that gets passed around the different cities reaping benefits and should be introduced late in the game.
aahz_capone
Warlord
Bast said:
Thats pretty good. I think that might even be MODable. The city gets extra $, happiness and stuff, and every X turns, civs "vote" (like for the Sec-Gen) on which city gets it. The cities to choose from would be one (the most cultural) of each civ.
joethreeblah
King
One of my first mods will be the new National Wonder - Female Mud Wrestling.
