The Order of the Knights Templar

[vranasm]

guys if you don't mind switch me into lurker status for now.
my interest kinda vanished a bit, am a bit ill and whatever.

The rota is still strong even without me.

 

[Manco Capac]

The what? rota? EDIT: Ah roster.

Aww, vranasm always sounds depressed.

 

[lymond]

Good job, Tachy. Hope you feel better, V. Come on back soon.

I think the next turns are straight forward.

1) Finish worker
2) Move to farm corn
3) Build warrior.
4) Worker mines riverside grass hill
5) Continue scouting. New warrior will move west to scout/fogbust

Questions is whether we start settler at size 2 or 3. Size 3 and we likely will have 2 mines to work, but 1mine and corn should be good for a decently timed Settler. I assume we go for Marble site next.

Techs: TW>BW makes sense. I probably won't get through BW. We can go straight to PH then but maybe picking up POT first would be good. We can decide later.

 

[terriFyer]

Let's get the blood effusions started.
Has someone noticed Imgur is acting weird recently? My batch of images all bear the same link...

Casual observer comment: you should use Photobucket! It's better and it's the only image hosting website that isn't blocked at my work so I can actually see the images that are uploaded there.

 

[vranasm]

The what? rota? EDIT: Ah roster.

Aww, vranasm always sounds depressed.

well 38°C fever this night :-( I hope it's only the "1 day" variant and nothing more serious...
interesting enough I don't feel otherwise bad (except for the fever) so I guess it's not angina so crossing fingers I don't end next week with antibiotics.

 

[Sengir]

Good job, Tachy. Hope you feel better, V. Come on back soon.

I think the next turns are straight forward.

1) Finish worker
2) Move to farm corn
3) Build warrior.
4) Worker mines riverside grass hill
5) Continue scouting. New warrior will move west to scout/fogbust

Questions is whether we start settler at size 2 or 3. Size 3 and we likely will have 2 mines to work, but 1mine and corn should be good for a decently timed Settler. I assume we go for Marble site next.

Techs: TW>BW makes sense. I probably won't get through BW. We can go straight to PH then but maybe picking up POT first would be good. We can decide later.

Plan sounds good. I'd go with settler at size 2.

 

[Cam_H]

Yep - happy with the plan also.

Vranasm ... best wishes for a quick not !

 

[lymond]

Okay..TS play...played a bit longer than normal since there is so little to do, basically with the intent of getting out our first settler. Getting this out now gives someone something more interesting to do this weekend.

The corn spot to the east looks like a better option now, since we know HRE is right over there and he is a rexxer. Plus, we actually have food to improve/work.

The Wheel is in and BW very close. I've started a road towards the new spot. The settler has just popped from the womb.

Warrior to the south just defeated a warrior at no loss of HP.

We have at least 4 decent city spots visible I think.

Constantinople could work cows and corn to grow faster in short term and maybe whip a worker into a settler at size 4, although we might want to get that current warrior out in 2 first to head West for some busting.

Pics:

Run Away! Run Away!

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Attacked Lion for some XP and a little Woody action:

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I see Gold in them thar hills...to bad there's no victuals:

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Met this joker...not sure from where...I assume from the West:

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and this one as well...not sure either, but his scout was down SW:

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I immediately did this:

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Injured barb warrior...I keeel him:

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I espy some HRE not far to the East, led by the mighty V, although he looks a bit peaked :

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Constantinople:

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[astre]

things looks good
For next city, i propose 1N of the proposed north city.
It gain one flood plain from the proposed placement while losing not so mutch.

for science, AH then oracle?

what target do we have for oracle? MC, alphabet or code of law?

 

[nocho]

I'll have a look later this evening hopefully. I'm up, right?

 

[nocho]

Ok, seen the save.

Tech, finish BW, AH next. Constantinople warrior-warrior-settler at size 3.

Where to settle? Are you saying 4N1W of our cap, astre? Not bad a site, but needs time to get up to speed if AH is still off. I guess lymond's proposed corn-spot is 1S of the eastern corn? While long-term not that great, it can be improved immediately and do a decent job churning out workers/settlers at size 3. Also slightly favour that right now. If the southern warrior finds some food near those southern golds might move more south though.

 

[lymond]

No, I actually like Tachy's spots and it's what I would do. Hit Alt-x to see the dot-map. 1W of corn and 1NE of cow (cow/marble). Corn first, as it's immediately productive.

astre - these cities are high level plays. Lots of good overlap on a good bureau cap to work cottages when the cap can't and lower maintenance. They are helper cities that are actually productive in their own right. You can't beat that.

I'm not sure on AH though. Maybe we can decide after BW is in, but at this level it is often best delay AH if you can. I'm leaning towards Pottery next, then Oracle (if we want that) and writing.

I also like a city 1W of the silk to the west there. Another good helper city. Probably as the 4th city. Pigs/ivory would be the 3rd..probably 1NE of pigs.

 

[Manco Capac]

You can't beat that.

Yes, you can. If copper distant, hook it now, notice a very nearby AI is underdefended and amass a fast army of 2 axes and then kill the IMM AI with 2 axes.

 

[lymond]

Yes, you can. If copper distant, hook it now, notice a very nearby AI is underdefended and amass a fast army of 2 axes and then kill the IMM AI with 2 axes.

No supporting me for supporting you but yeah, copper reveal does change the equation. Still, the city just east makes sense now regardless.

 

[nocho]

Played until BW was in. No copper in sight. No food resources at the gold. NE warrior died when it ran into 2 barb warriors.

So what do we tech? AH or still something like pottery?

 

[Manco Capac]

Spoiler :

But definitely not cities in priority.

 

[vranasm]

why build monument? we have religion and it will spread eventually and we have enough tiles to work with now.

the land is somewhat open and we have no good tech for defense... it will be very dangerous

the 3 city threshold is close

 

[Manco Capac]

That's true! Why a monument?

Still sad for the death of my warrior that didn't serve its purpose. After all, I should have not delayed the worker.

 

[nocho]

Yeah, the monument was queued out of inertia. Warrior instead then, or barracks even?

@V, what do you mean with "3 city threshold"?

Most importantly, opinions on to AH or not to AH? Without copper and with lifestock around I'd go for it without thinking it much, but there might be other opinions.

 

[astre]

I vote AH first just because of the horse matter, to know where to plant city 3.
Cow is nice too.

EDIT: as a side note, we are going toward a religious word: 2 christian and 2 muslims.
We need to explore more if possible to consider the diferents power ratio.
My analysis. We are 7 in this world. The 4 we known + persia (muslim?) + mongolia (christian or neutral?) + 1 random. As the mapmaker, i would put more oponents than friends therefore, we can hope for the unkown one to be muslim (zara? mehemed?)

In conclusion, I'm opposed to attack HRE until we are sure to get other allies in this world.

Thx lymond for the explanation about marble city but I can't really understand why we should lose a FP from our BFC just for overlap effect (we still have 2 tiles overlap with my proposition.)
but i'll think about it