The Pillar of Chains - Magic or Man-Made?

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Just reading over the Pillar of Chains' entry (and of all the wonders, it has by far the most interesting entry, which is a shame since it's not a priority for me by any means) I just wonder how to interpret it.

Overnight, presumably hundreds of people are tied up against a pillar. On the scale of the number of people involved, already it sounds like a HUGE tower, and the mention of hundreds of barbed chains backs that up. I don't know whether I'm imagining ambiguity or if the story is ambiguous, but it doesn't state exactly how the tower was made.

On first reading, my first thought was that it was a display of powerful magic by Flauros. He conjured a tower up from the ground and summoned barbed chains to capture the protesters (for anyone who has seen the Silent Hill film, I envisioned it as happening like that. Tentacle-like chains picking people off one-by-one and strapping them to the tower).

On rethought though, I wondered if maybe Flauros simply ordered his Moroi to do it. Presumably the materials for the tower or at least much of the tower's structure was already in place, and it was simply a matter of erecting it. During the night he had his Moroi chain the protesters up against it, and rather than being a quick-burst of magic it was actually a lengthy process that took the entire night.

Just a wondering from me. If it was the former, then it implies Flauros possesses incredible magical powers, but since there seems to be no other mention of him being Arcane (barring the Vampire-soul-sucking process), it strikes me that the latter is probably the more logical explanation


...It's night and I have too much time on my hands... :blush:
 
From what I gather, the latter. I'd guess Flauros, and probably a few buddies, did it personally, practically slaughtering the protesters with their bare hands. I imagine Flauros charging through the crowd, slicing through throngs of protesters in a single sweep. Flauros seems the type to enjoy personally causing mass carnage. Probably did the chaining as an extra challenge. Keep things from getting boring.
 
From what I gather, the latter. I'd guess Flauros, and probably a few buddies, did it personally, practically slaughtering the protesters with their bare hands. I imagine Flauros charging through the crowd, slicing through throngs of protesters in a single sweep. Flauros seems the type to enjoy personally causing mass carnage.

That sounds more like something Alexis would do.

I envisioned a horde of Moroi working underneath the plaza in secret during the daytime, making the pillar and strapping barbed chains to it, then, during the night, the Moroi or Flauros or a combination of them burst the pillar up from the ground, and the chains snagged a bunch of people on the way up. Perhaps the pillar was there for years as a trump card, and the daytime was spent preparing a mechanism to get it out of the ground.
 
From what I gather, the latter. I'd guess Flauros, and probably a few buddies, did it personally, practically slaughtering the protesters with their bare hands. I imagine Flauros charging through the crowd, slicing through throngs of protesters in a single sweep. Flauros seems the type to enjoy personally causing mass carnage. Probably did the chaining as an extra challenge. Keep things from getting boring.
I'm with Monkeyfinger, he does sound like the more "delicate and subtle" type of guy, rather than the vicious and straightforward type. If he was a serial killer, he'd be Freddy, taking his time messing with his prey's minds, rather than the more Jason like "let's go smash things" method.

That sounds more like something Alexis would do.

I envisioned a horde of Moroi working underneath the plaza in secret during the daytime, making the pillar and strapping barbed chains to it, then, during the night, the Moroi or Flauros or a combination of them burst the pillar up from the ground, and the chains snagged a bunch of people on the way up. Perhaps the pillar was there for years as a trump card, and the daytime was spent preparing a mechanism to get it out of the ground.
I actually like the latter a lot. Fits the scheming way I see him. Just something planned a long way ahead of time for the inevitable day people got a little annoyed.
 
I just envisioned it simple- after sun went out, vampires were free to act, they crushed the rebellion and chained em later, for show, just like they used to put heads of enemies on pikes in the middle ages
 
Or if your name happened to be Vlad and somehow developed a nickname for doing it, you would put the whole body on a sharpened tree while they were still alive and go out and have lunch next to them ;)
 
Yeah, I think that it was Vampires, not Moroi. Moroi are only human, and can't act as fast the the enty implies, but Vampire (beging faster then men) would have not trouble doing it.
In addition, I think the Vampire had already hacked up the people, then chained them up, just to make it more gruesome.
 
I don't think any vampire worth his weight in blood would acually manually take part in such an activity. I think Vampires are very much the ''sit back and manipulate things from afar'' kind of people, they have human servants to do this kind of thing for them, why would they get their hands dirty?
 
I don't think any vampire worth his weight in blood would acually manually take part in such an activity. I think Vampires are very much the ''sit back and manipulate things from afar'' kind of people, they have human servants to do this kind of thing for them, why would they get their hands dirty?

The occasional fun:).
I think a lot of the Vamipic-Sit-back-and-have-them-kill themselves comes from not wanting to put themselves at risk. Agaisnt unarmed, under fed rioters, their is no risk to a vampire.
 
The occasional fun:).
I think a lot of the Vamipic-Sit-back-and-have-them-kill themselves comes from not wanting to put themselves at risk. Agaisnt unarmed, under fed rioters, their is no risk to a vampire.
Indeed. Made all the more urgent by the fact Flauros is asking you very nicely to do it. In many ways, Flauros could be the scarier sibling...
 
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