The questions-not-worth-their-own-thread Question Thread!

[Atticus]

Who are emos? Why everyone seems to have such a low opinion about them?

I've always heard that English is one of the most hardest languages to learn. I am wondering if it is because it is Word-Order based.

At least for western people English is probably the easiest to learn because it dominates the popular culture. You need almost no effort to learn English ebough to get by in everyday situations. And furthermore, I don't believe that it's word-order basedness would be the trouble, because the order thing isn't (as far as I know) that complicated, and because languages using cases also use word order. While it is in theory right to say "Den Mann beisst der Hund", it's preferable to say it other way round. Using different order makes sense if you want to emphasis what is bitten, but if you are just going to inform that the dog bites the man, it would sound weird, if you would say den Mann first.

Btw, here it's commonly said that Finnish is one of the most hardest languages to learn because it uses 16 (or something like that) cases.

English has had a heavier influence from Romance languages than German, it seems.

Latin uses also cases.

 

[Mirc]

I know Polish has some 26 (sechsundzwanzig) cases, and German has 4 (vier).

I find that very hard to believe. Wiki says Polish has 7 cases, which would be almost as much as Latin had, and just a bit more than some other Slavic languages. My language has 5, losing the Latin "ablative" but retaining the "vocative" that was lost in all other Romance languages (which have 4, just like German)

 

[Godwynn]

I find that very hard to believe. Wiki says Polish has 7 cases, which would be almost as much as Latin had, and just a bit more than some other Slavic languages. My language has 5, losing the Latin "ablative" but retaining the "vocative" that was lost in all other Romance languages (which have 4, just like German)

Meh, it was in some language journal at SIUC's Morris Library.

I wouldn't intentionally try to deceive you.

 

[eddfire3]

Who are emos? Why everyone seems to have such a low opinion about them?

Prepare yourself for a long, drawn out discussion of contemporary music history.

Emo stands for emotional. Its origins come from the late '80s and early '90s when it was used to describe a break off of the post-hardcore scene, centered around the DC area. It became a more popular term, however, when it began to be applied to bands with a more melodic, laid back style, such as Sunny Day Real Estate and Cap'n Jazz. Weezer's first album can also be put in this group. This indie-emo wave died down by the end of the '90s as bands either broke up or (somewhat)changed their style (in the case of Weezer).

From 2000 till today, the use of the term has persisted. Jimmy Eat World, which had been part of the emocore scene of the '90s began to gain popularity. Dashboard Confessional appealed particularly adolescent audiences. The term continues to shift, now being used by the mainstream media as an umbrella term to classify everything from screamo to hardcore.

Basically, emo was a music genre from the '90s but people continue to use it, and it has grown to identify a totally different music scene. Personally, I think it doesn't make sense, just take a listen to an emo band from then and an "emo" band from today, and you can tell they are completely different.

The "emos" you probably hear people referring to are a glorified pop culture image of someone who wears make-up, girls pants, and cuts themselves. They have become a general insult that is thrown around. It is important to note that most people who are actual participants in local music scenes do not look/act like this, and in fact finding someone who actually fits this stereotype would be rather difficult. It is important to note, however, that there are often fake, 13 year old posers that may act like this. Please try your best to differentiate between people who are "real" members of the "emo" music scene, and the stupid kids who have watched too much MTV2.


Hopefully this beats any post by some jerk along the lines of "They are those d-bags who wear girls pants."

 

[Atticus]

Thanks, Eddfire3. Though I still don't get why these emos are so much insulted, but maybe someone will give some examples soon

Wiki says Polish has 7 cases, which would be almost as much as Latin had, and just a bit more than some other Slavic languages.

Classical Latin has 5 cases +vocative for some words.

 

[Hitti-Litti]

IMO emos are insulted, because people think that it's pathetic to think that your life sucks and you have to cut yourself to get rid of the stress of life when you're still a teenager(it is pathetic).

 

[Rossiya]

Can someone define "localised war" please?

 

[Mirc]

Thanks, Eddfire3. Though I still don't get why these emos are so much insulted, but maybe someone will give some examples soon



Classical Latin has 5 cases +vocative for some words.

So, 6. Which yes, is indeed almost 7.

 

[Harald]

Am I the only one who would like to try one of these?

 

[Brighteye]

People make fun of emos because of the supreme irony of their situation. I have seen it described thus:
buy the same clothes, wear the same make-up, get the same haircut, listen to the same music, act the same way, claim that you're an individual and no-one understands you.

 

[mitsho]

Am I the only one who would like to try one of these?

Well, it's just an open calzone with not calzone but normal fillings. Not really something new. It might be more handy than a normal flat pizza to eat while walking, but then it probably is the most unhealthy fastfood ever. The way it looks I mean.

I probably would eat it once or twice but then I mostly do prefer a tasty sandwich or whatever to eat while commuting...

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[brennan]

buy the same clothes, wear the same make-up, get the same haircut, listen to the same music, act the same way, claim that you're an individual and no-one understands you.

Surely that's just a description of 'teenager'?

/

 

[Dubai Vol]

Surely that's just a description of 'teenager'?

/

Yeah, pretty much. Teenagers all think they invented angst

I got news for you, kids: life is pain. Anyone who says different is selling something. You can buy it on a t-shirt. That should tell you what your philosophy of life is worth.

Useless load of jammy gits. How about you go out and actually work for a living? Guess what? If you work hard life doesn't suck quite so much. Sit around moaning about how bad life is and you get what you deserve.

Or you could get off your angst and work.

 

[LucyDuke]

Useless load of jammy gits. How about you go out and actually work for a living? Guess what? If you work hard life doesn't suck quite so much. Sit around moaning about how bad life is and you get what you deserve.

Or you could get off your angst and work.

Agh! Stop it! Surely I'm not old enough to be telling teenagers to go get a damn job...

Spoiler :

Now stop crying and go get a job.

 

[colusaboy]

I've been doing alot of pushups lately... I was told to concentrate on keeping good form with my body to get the ppush up right, well I'm getting alot of tension in my abdomen. In fact my stomach muscles are getting tired and giving in before my arm muscles go...

Is that bad? Am I doing them wrong?

noo, sounds like you are doing them right. You are reaping abdominal benefits too.

In the Army,in regards to pushups, form is everything. If you don't have the right form they will leave you there on the ground for a while

Keep Pushing.

(you don't want to wind up fat and lazy like me )

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Actually, you can get discharged if you don't have the correct form. Happened to my sister. Funny story.

 

[The Yankee]

Agh! Stop it! Surely I'm not old enough to be telling teenagers to go get a damn job...

Spoiler :

It is fun, though. You're missing out!

I'm only 22 and I don't understand most teenagers. Then again, I didn't understand then when I was 16, either. I was mostly removed from "scenes." Whatever those are.

 

[colusaboy]

I think the American version would be white trash.

yeah.

Fortunately for us, our "chavs" are static and tend to only go out to get piss beer and return to the trailer park to watch endless t.v.
cops
wrestling
nascaar
and the horid daytime court tv shows.


But those poor limey's chavs are out in public and rather mobile.

I got to see some in Leeds,in their natural element. Half Funny half annoying.

I did shots with aging soccer hooligans in Manchester. Not funny, not annoying. scary as hell


there's your chav primer.


actualy, a good word for CHAV here in america would be :
WANKSTER! a wanna-be little douche-bag gangster.

 

[Rossiya]

yeah.

Fortunately for us, our "chavs" are static and tend to only go out to get piss beer and return to the trailer park to watch endless t.v.
cops
wrestling
nascaar
and the horid daytime court tv shows.


But those poor limey's chavs are out in public and rather mobile.

I got to see some in Leeds,in their natural element. Half Funny half annoying.

I did shots with aging soccer hooligans in Manchester. Not funny, not annoying. scary as hell


there's your chav primer.


actualy, a good word for CHAV here in america would be :
WANKSTER! a wanna-be little douche-bag gangster.

In all my time in England I've never heard of "sucker".

 

[colusaboy]

Warning: generalizations from a main stream non-emo non-goth. No deep insight follows.

Who are emos?

They're kind of like GOTHS (the new ones, not the axe swinging Rome sacking ones)

think: Marlyn Manson,Ministry etc.

(Ministry)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/cowkiller/im_so_goth.jpg

Only far more wimpy.

think: barney the dinosaur,no-foam de-caf lattes with soy milk and bed wetting.