The religious threads...

[WillJ]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I made various observations, and if people want to see them as trolls, fine.
They were not, I don't stoop to swearing or name-hurling, like many other posters.

But of course you occasionally resort to pointing out others' spelling mistakes when you get intimidated by their superior intellect and have nothing better to point out.

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I want to say the idea of being called a sinner or atheist is a troll/flame to my beliefs!

Calling you an atheist offends you? What do you want to be called, then?

And if calling you a sinner offends you, do you think you're offending murderers when you call them criminals? It's the same thing; you have a belief that murder is wrong, they have a belief that rejection of God is wrong.

Anyway, I think religon should be allowed here, simply because it's interesting. If you don't want to get offended or offend someone else, stay out of the discussion. I can't imagine getting offended by a religion thread at CFC anyway.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by WillJ
But of course you occasionally resort to pointing out others' spelling mistakes when you get intimidated by their superior intellect and have nothing better to point out.

If someone cannot spell, that indicates inferior intellect.
Moderator Action: Warned, Spelling police are not authorized or welcome at CFC. Lefty
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

Keep taking the medication, WIllJ...

Originally posted by WillJ
Calling you an atheist offends you? What do you want to be called, then?

'Sir' will do fine. *joke*

Actually, why do posters require labels?
So they can make flawed assumptions?

It would seem so.

Originally posted by WillJ
And if calling you a sinner offends you, do you think you're offending murderers when you call them criminals? It's the same thing; you have a belief that murder is wrong, they have a belief that rejection of God is wrong.

Flawed analogy.
Religionists calling all people sinners is an insult.
They assume everyone owes something to them.
Somewhat like the racialism practiced by Germany in WW2.

I'm sorry, Willj, no-one gives them the right.

Originally posted by WillJ
Anyway, I think religon should be allowed here, simply because it's interesting. If you don't want to get offended or offend someone else, stay out of the discussion. I can't imagine getting offended by a religion thread at CFC anyway.

I agree, on this point.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by MajorGeneral2
And Curt, you're beginning to troll right now.

I don't troll.

You are merely trying to stir up myahem.

 

[Xen]

This is exactley the kind of thing I was talking about, though everyone is showing a lot more restraint then "usual", which is a goodthing

 

[Stapel]

Originally posted by Zarn
I must have received alot of insults in these threads but have reported none. Why some make such posts is beyond me.

Zarn, please realize that some of your posts can be insulting to others. An insult is half the one who speaks and half the one who listens! A post does not need offensive language to be insulting.

 

[CurtSibling]

I am tired of religion now.

We need a new focus.

It's time to go back to the ME debate!!!

 

[Ohwell]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I am tired of religion now.

We need a new focus.

It's time to go back to the ME debate!!!

Nooo!

 

[Xen]

whats that?

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Zarn
I must have received alot of insults in these threads but have reported none. Why some make such posts is beyond me.

For a large part of they world, they blow up each other, and their wives and children in religious discussion. Its comparatively calm here.

 

[floppa21]

Originally posted by Xen
whats that?

ME = Middle East

 

[Hygro]

These religious threads have brought me back to the forums.

My purpose of arguing on these forums is to improve myself by taking in others' arguments, deciding what I think about them, and then attempt an elagent response (which I dont always achieve). It makes me a sharper, yet more rounded person (like Xena's disc thingy!)

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Ohwell


Nooo!

Aw, I'm only kidding!

I'm always ready to fight the religious debate!

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
If someone cannot spell, that indicates inferior intellect.

If you believe knowing how to spell has anything to do with logical argument, then I'd say that you have inferior intellect.

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Keep taking the medication, WIllJ...

I told you not to bring that up again! I have a serious issue!

Originally posted by CurtSibling

'Sir' will do fine. *joke*

Actually, why do posters require labels?
So they can make flawed assumptions?

It would seem so.

I guess it's easier than saying "person who believes in no god" all the time. It's not like people call you athiest during any discussion besides religious ones (AFAIK). If they do, then you can complain about being labeled.

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Flawed analogy.
Religionists calling all people sinners is an insult.
They assume everyone owes something to them.
Somewhat like the racialism practiced by Germany in WW2.

Um, they think that they're sinners themselves. Your analogy is flawed too.

Originally posted by CurtSibling
I agree, on this point.

Yaaaaay!

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by WillJ
If you believe knowing how to spell has anything to do with logical argument, then I'd say that you have inferior intellect.

You can say what you want...
The truth of the matter is immutable.
The religionists never did prove their deity's existence, only ran away from the argument or twisted it.

While I outlined that the whole god thing was a human invention.

Next!

Originally posted by WillJ
I toldI have a serious issue!

You aren't kidding!

Originally posted by WillJ
I guess it's easier than saying "person who believes in no god" all the time. It's not like people call you athiest during any discussion besides religious ones (AFAIK). If they do, then you can complain about being labeled.

Ooh, your majesty!
I will harken to your edicts!

Only kidding!
Go and play on the railway, mister!

Originally posted by WillJ
Um, they think that they're sinners themselves. Your analogy is flawed too.

Bottom line: Your religious 'sinner' tag is duly rejected.

Argue all you want, I spit on it.

Originally posted by WillJ
Yaaaaay!

Only joking. I disagree whole-heartedly.

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
You can say what you want...
The truth of the matter is immutable.
The religionists never did prove their deity's existence, only ran away from the argument or twisted it.

While I outlined that the whole god thing was a human invention.

Next!

I don't think you outlined that the whole god thing was a human invention. You have no proof that that's true. It's likely, and at least every religon on Earth besides one (if not all) have to be made up (or at least misguided), but you can't say there's a 0% chance that humans had a direct influence by the divine when making religions, nor that there's a 0% chance that there's divinity that humans haven't touched on yet.

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Ooh, your majesty!
I will harken to your edicts!

Only kidding!
Go and play on the railway, mister!

Riiiiiiight...

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Bottom line: Your religious 'sinner' tag is duly rejected.

Argue all you want, I spit on it.

Fine, just don't get offended by it. And why are you calling it mine? It's not mine; I'm not Christian.

 

[smalltalk]

Religion is like a virus to the mind. All ideas are.

Ideas can spread like rabbits. Therefore there are sometimes epedemics of 'em.

(Must go now and start a thread about this idea ...)

 

[Bootstoots]

It's likely, and at least every religon on Earth besides one (if not all) have to be made up (or at least misguided), but you can't say there's a 0% chance that humans had a direct influence by the divine when making religions, nor that there's a 0% chance that there's divinity that humans haven't touched on yet.

Which is why I'm agnostic...the only postively true statement about religion is that we truly don't know whether there is a God or Gods and what his/her/its/their intentions are.

Anyway...this should probably be taken to OT.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by WillJ
I don't think you outlined that the whole god thing was a human invention. You have no proof that that's true. It's likely, and at least every religon on Earth besides one (if not all) have to be made up (or at least misguided), but you can't say there's a 0% chance that humans had a direct influence by the divine when making religions, nor that there's a 0% chance that there's divinity that humans haven't touched on yet.

Well, I am still waiting for the religionists to produce something even close to proof.
I have made an effort to make my stance clear.

All they have offered (mostly) is at best empty sanctimony and arrogant dismissals and at worst, plain childish insults.

Originally posted by WillJ
Riiiiiiight...

I was making fun of your autocratic tone of post, sir.

Originally posted by WillJ
Fine, just don't get offended by it. And why are you calling it mine? It's not mine; I'm not Christian.

I'll get as offended as I please, it is not your want to dictate my emotions.

For the purpose of the argument you were defending them.
I was merely stating my prosecution of the whole affair.

Like it or lump it, that is the state of things.

 

[smalltalk]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Well, I am still waiting for the religionists to produce something even close to proof.

Maybe your expectations are too high.

I guess we both agree, there is no god, so how could there ever be a proof of it?

Do you expect people to come up and say, I could find no proof of god, but the evidence against god was overwhelming, so I debunk my faith? Do you expect people to cut off the branch they are sitting on?

No one can jump his shadow such fast. No one switches his life style or personalty in one day.

 

[onejayhawk]

Originally posted by smalltalk
No one can jump his shadow such fast. No one switches his life style or personalty in one day.

Actually that is not true, and this is the subject where it occurs most often. People are known to radically change their life overnight. Many more people are known to trace major changes in the direction of their life to one realization. The process is called conviction.

But that is an OT comment. I also favor allowing religious discussion. These conversations may contain seeds that will germinate far in the future. Anything that requires thought is worthwhile, except the process of death and dying.

J

PS Curt, I distinctly recall you calling someone "Old Man" recently, so the claim that you dont call names is threadbare.