The Unique Historical Victory Record Thread

[holy king]

I have played France several times as I plan to contribute to the strategy guide for it. This is a tricky UHV for me. You have to build 3 wonders in 3 different eras, so you need to at least stay on par in the science race, build a colonial empire, maintain a strong culture in Paris and have enough of an army to defend against your European rivals. Your biggest obstacle is that France, unlike Germany is not blessed with great production sites, only Aix-La-Chapelle (whose area MUST be settled) and possibly Northern Italy are your good production cities.

I found this one particularly easy, even without Aix-la-chapelle... You need to bump out three great artists in paris to stay in front of beijing and dheli, which should be no problem with notre dame, and you have to build this anyway for the other condition. Make Bordeaux your production city for the later game with the help of watermills and a factory. Give away your colonies as soon as you meet the condition, they are a serious threat to your economy otherwise. get iron for the eiffel tower by either occupying roma or western germany (rome is better, since it will be a more usefull city, due to less culture problems in the area). in fact it may work to occupy and maintain rome right in the beginning, that extra city (make it your military city) will help a lot. make russia and england your friends and let them fight germany for you (they will attack you several times. should be no big problem to win this way, getting the eiffel tower in time will be the hardest point...

 

[The Q-Meister]

India, one of the hardest? I've found them one of the easiest. It does get tight sometimes, especially with founding religions,

Well...that's the whole point with India, it gets very tight with the religions, which consists of 2 of 3 goals in their UHV. There have been games I played as India where I beelined for Judaism right off the bat and I still didn't get it.

I am convinced Rome is impossible to get. Nobody, as far as I know, has done it without cheating.

Rome is hardly impossible. I've done it (so clearly it isn't) as well as many other people on this board. There is some good advice on this very thread if you want to take a look at it.

 

[The Q-Meister]

Make Bordeaux your production city for the later game with the help of watermills and a factory.

The problem isn't production in the late game though; if you made it that far, you've probably done it. The hard part is building wonders and making colonies when you have few good production cities AND facing war with Germany, Spain, sometimes 2 at the same time.

Give away your colonies as soon as you meet the condition, they are a serious threat to your economy otherwise. get iron for the eiffel tower

But the Eiffel Tower needs bronze, not iron. Therefore, you need at least 1 city in Quebec as neither Rome nor the Aix La Chapelle area has them, both have iron.

by either occupying roma or western germany (rome is better, since it will be a more usefull city, due to less culture problems in the area).

Rome is excellent, however there is always the danger of the Roman resurgence, which happened I believe every time when I conquered it playing France. Well, you could do Western Germany, but as you said there are cultural problems...or go for the safer Aix La Chapelle, which is why I recommended it.

 

[Thonnas]

has anyone ever done mongol? I can not for the life of me figure out how to get the 12%. I even got an artist and took control of a large swath of siberia, and by the time I got to persia there wouldn't have been enough turns for the anarchy to pass and culture to expand over much land. the keshik need another movement point or something.

 

[The Q-Meister]

Well the other thing that bothered me about the Mongol UHV is that their Unique Power is the ability to RAZE (destroy) small cities automatically after you destroy a bigger one however the UHV requires you CONTROL 12% of land; so their unique power really does not help you complete your historical victory as the point is not to destroy land but to control it.

 

[wolfigor]

I always play on monarch, warlord flavour

Egyptian : Done, relatively simple. (It's a bit one-way, defend from barbarian/independent, build, minimal diplomacy, minimal war)

Indian : Didn't try, doesn't suit my ideal game.

Chinese : Done, not extremely hard (as long as you concentrate on your core targets)

Babylonian : Failed

Greek : Done, rather fun.

Carthaginian : Didn't try.

Persian : Done. It's tough but fun.

Roman : Done, it's relatively easy if you wip your population under the cap, and a walk in the park if you build the Great-Wall.

Japanese : Done, rather easy.

Viking : Didn't try

Arabian : Done... but just because I've been extremely lucky in the starting conditions, else reaching Spain is very hard!!! The 40% religion control is duable: you have plenty of time and you can usethe sword to convert. .

Spanish : Done... good mix of exploration, colonization, and war. The best way to keep other fellow European out of America is pre-emptive strike on their motherland.

French : Done, doable. A good CIV for builders

English : Done (with 147).

German : In progress

Russian : Done... very great fun! Beware of your own power: it's the only case that my civ collapsed in anarchy.

Malinese : Didn't try

Incan : Didn't try... I'm pre-frustrated at the conquerors events.

Mongolian : Done, great for warmongers: fast paced and risky.

Aztec : Didn't try... I'm pre-frustrated at the conquerors events.

Turkish : Failed. I can't get vassals!!!

American : Didn't try, but it's next on my list.

 

[Rod]

Hello,

I always play on Emperor (Warlords Ed.), so I have only achieved (so far)

1.Egypt (damn fun, I really loved it and it is not tooo easy on Emperor)

(but I am sometimes working on Carthage (seems possible)
Persia (seems impossible)
Inca (I am still working on several early strategies)

 

[The Q-Meister]

I always play on monarch, warlord flavour

Mongolian : Done, great for warmongers: fast paced and risky.

Wow. Congratulatons. You're one of the few (maybe only) person here who has completed the Mongolian UHV. Care to offer some advice here? Particularly how did you manage to get 12% of land by the time limit?

 

[Corm]

Yea I seriously need help with them too.

 

[wolfigor]

Wow. Congratulatons. You're one of the few (maybe only) person here who has completed the Mongolian UHV. Care to offer some advice here? Particularly how did you manage to get 12% of land by the time limit?

I did make when Ryhe corrected (in the hard way) stability... I remember posting about it.
I was some time ago, I need to look at my old post to remember.

 

[ltccone]

has anyone ever done mongol? I can not for the life of me figure out how to get the 12%. I even got an artist and took control of a large swath of siberia, and by the time I got to persia there wouldn't have been enough turns for the anarchy to pass and culture to expand over much land. the keshik need another movement point or something.

I know exactly what you mean. I've tried the Mongols twice. Both times China had only five cities. They were easy to destroy, but no land to capture. Japan is out because a navy would take to long to build.

You can't get to India by land, you have to go through the desert to get to Persia, and "General Winter" makes the historical conquest of the Russians impossible. I'm impressed over anyone who can win a UHV with the Mongols.

ltccone

 

[wolfigor]

Nothing extremely inventive here... ordes of troops first conquering China, then razing most of Persia, and conquering selected towns in India.
Some war in mesopotamia.

I did use one trick... I did prepare a good number of settlers which task was only to settle a town and give me some extra territory.
If you do it very close to the "deadline" for UHV, the negative effects on stability and economy are not relevant.

It may be not a the _cleanest_ victory, I admit, but it worked.
However you really need have to plan which town to raze and which to keep (due to better chances to grow your territory)

 

[Rod]

Hello,

I conquered Japan last time with Mongols and it was very easy. I just had to conquer and raze Kyoto. All other cities were smaller , so after 1 turn whole Japan was subdued. The conquest took at all 2 ships only (you reload in Seoul (Korea) and from there it is just 2 tiles to Kyoto. So you stay in the city ,load the units, jump to Kyoto, unload and back again to stay safe in the city till next round (reload your units in this turn naturally).

 

[Corm]

Thats exactly how I conquered Japan as the Mongols too. I still cant get the 12% though. The highest I had was 10 if I recall correct, I have since given up to try the Incas and America again for the time being.

 

[Riker]

I couldn't make their up work...

 

[Thonnas]

The mongol UP is only very marginally useful. Basically if you raze a city, and then send some troops towards smaller cities within 4 tiles, they will switch to you after your next turn. The problem with this is that the city you destroy has to be the larger of whatever cities actually are within 4 tiles of it. I think it also will not work with capitals (from what I could decipher in the code). If you could make it to europe this could be quite useful (like it seems to be in japan). I haven't had any chance to use this yet on china, as they had engineering, with castles and pikes ready and waiting for me, both of the last two times I've tried to play them. Aside from that the next civs you could meet would be russia or persia, which would probably only have a bunch of small desolate border cities. Further more, the only realistic way to take advantage of the UP is the cheat and reveal the map to make sure you are razing a city that will actually gain you something.

It is quite frustrating, but I refuse to yield. Once I finally get it, I expect to be rewarded with mentions of augustus ceasar, or at least hammurabi.

 

[The Q-Meister]

Yes another thought about the Mongolian UP is that you really wouldn't want to raze too many cities as the point is to hold land not lose it. Sending settlers all the way from Mongolia to Persia, India or Europe simply isn't feasible. I think the UP could be strengthened for Mongolia here.

The Mongolian Civ is one that probably MOST needs someone to write a good strategy guide for it in the wiki.

 

[dl123654]

I just beat the last campain therefore i have now beat all of the civs on easy. And just in time for BTS.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Well, I think that the players who limit themselves only to the UHV's are losing something. I, for example, won the French UHV, now I want to try playing France again, only as a greedy militaristic power not interested much in colonies, wonders and culture... There are much more possibilities to play them just going for the UHV's.

 

[Corm]

I just the last campain therefore i have now beat all of the civs on easy. And just in time for BTS.

Could you please list your achievements like the posts at the start of the thread and possibly add some hints for the Incas and Persia and Mongolia or any others that you feel you found hard to get? That way we can learn from whats worked etc. I know you posted some allready but the Incas and Mongols im very interested in and im sure lots of people could use some help on Persia. The Wiki guide is good but I suspect there is still a lot of luck involved. So few people have tried it and completed it for me to know for sure if there are definitive tactics that work or not.

I dont know anyone thats completed the Incas recently, I might add, so you may be the first!

Providing we are talking about UHV and not just victories (which is what this thread is meant to be about).