The Worst UU!

[Tomoyo]

Once your horsies get attacked, you've done something wrong. Besides, the Ansar Warrior can be defended by a Pikeman. A Chinese elite rider stacked with a vet pike will defend. Also, IIRC, the Ansar doesn't require iron. I'm probably wrong, though.

 

[Bluemofia]

The Egyptian war chariot is not ver good. It is the equivilant of an early horseman, which I never seem to have horses until I acutally get horseback riding. In all of my civing, I have only built 4 chariots before horsemen came around.

 

[Tomoyo]

In my experience, the Egyptian War Chariot is a very good UU, actually. It's a cheap horseman, and you can build them until your GA, so you can use them for a Chariot - Knight upgrade.

 

[Bluemofia]

But that costs a lot, and lots of my funds are being drained to the military...

 

[Tomoyo]

You are probably building too many defenders. Defenders really drain your economy and do absolutely nothing. Besides, I find that I can keep up in tech without using that many funds.

 

[Bluemofia]

Not really. They are mostly a giant pile of swordsmen, horsemen, and archers.

 

[Tomoyo]

Then you can go kill someone and get more unit support.

 

[Bluemofia]

That's the problem. I already did kill everyone that's close to me, and all the other civs are on different continents, or are too far away to be able to send reinforcements.

 

[Corvex]

In that case, fortify your coastal / border cities and downsize the army in your interior.

 

[RegentMan]

Also, IIRC, the Ansar doesn't require iron. I'm probably wrong, though.

I think that they do require iron, but they only cost 60 shields instead of 70. Quite a deal, in my opinion.

 

[Tomoyo]

That's the problem. I already did kill everyone that's close to me, and all the other civs are on different continents, or are too far away to be able to send reinforcements.

Then play on a higher level...

 

[Bluemofia]

I think that they do require iron, but they only cost 60 shields instead of 70. Quite a deal, in my opinion.

No Iron needed. costs 60 shields, 4 attack, 2 defense, 3 movement.

Then play on a higher level...

Then I get overwhelmed by their units too quickly.

 

[RegentMan]

No Iron needed. costs 60 shields, 4 attack, 2 defense, 3 movement.

Man, do I need an update. First the coastal fortress thing, now this. What's next, thirty shield warriors?

 

[Bluemofia]

No. Those are Swordsmen with lower attack and defense

 

[Rohili]

I am playing a game right now with America. An F-15 just triggered my golden age. Now, with the modern wonders being built and me being drug into World War Three, this F-15 induced golden age is actually quite useful. Remember, the F-15 is the best fighter out there. Your opponents will never be able to build anything better. Immortals are pretty good, but eventually cavalry come along. The F-15 is nice and no one can ever produce anything more powerful.

I voted the F-15 too, though after reading the comments the chasqui scout is probably worse. That doesn't change the fact that the F-15 sucks though.

1) By the time I can build them I probably had my GA long ago already. Yes, I do build wonders, I hope that isn't a crime.

2) I seldom build fighters/jet fighters anyway. I focus on bombers, and with the introduction of AA ground units the need for fighters is diminished further.

3) A Panzer can still help you if you are outmatched even in the late Industrial Age. A Jet Fighter with improved bombard capabilities isn't going to help you much in evening the odds in the Modern Age.

The main problem with the F-15, as I see it, is that it replaces a unit which is not critical and not many people build anyway.

 

[Rohili]

I voted the F-15 too, though after reading the comments the chasqui scout is probably worse. That doesn't change the fact that the F-15 sucks though.

1) By the time I can build them I probably had my GA long ago already. Yes, I do build wonders, I hope that isn't a crime.

2) I seldom build fighters/jet fighters anyway. I focus on bombers, and with the introduction of AA ground units the need for fighters is diminished further.

3) A Panzer can still help you if you are outmatched even in the late Industrial Age. A Jet Fighter with improved bombard capabilities (but still much inferior to bombers) isn't going to help you even the odds much.

The main problem with the F-15, as I see it, is that it replaces a unit which is not critical and not many people build anyway, and also it gains a stat boost in a place which is not is main strength (like the cossack in vanilla civ which gained extra defence). Perhaps a good way to improve it would be to increase its movement to 2, so that it can both bombard then conduct air superiority in one turn.

 

[MeteorPunch]

Alright, who's been voting for the War Chariot?

 

[IXIRandyIXI]

Hmm, I always thought that the Conquistador was the worst UU. But now that I think about it, maybe the American F-15 is the worst UU (since fighters have limited use in my experience).

 

[gunkulator]

At least with the Conquistador you can start your GA when you want and the timing isn't too bad either. The unit itself sucks: a 3/2/2 (all roads) unit for the same 70 shields that also buys the 4/3/2 knight. However, you should be able to pick off a longbow or med inf to get you GA whereas with the F-15, getting it to kill someone is not so easy.

I can't believe 8 people voted for the English Man-O-War. In C3C, the age of sail has been extended since the AI never researches ironclads. I'm playing the English now and believe me, Man-O-Wars (Men-O-War?) rule the sea for a long time. Those 3 Frigate, 1 Galleon stacks are mighty hard to take out with just Frigates. The Man-O-War gives a 2 to 1 A to D ratio and has a move of 6. Best of all, you don't really have to build all that many since you'll be enslaving a bunch of your own. So far I've enslaved 10 ships. That's 600 free shields of units! Also, with a bombard of 4 and ROF of 2, you can lay waste to the AI's coastline. They'll be so busy repairing the damage that it'll slow them getting their rail network up. I have so many now that I can even take off a few hps of riflemen fortified in cities when it comes time to conquer.

 

[Parabellum]

I suggest that you make proper poll.

F-15 is the worst UU

Me too think the same , F-15 is useless, in every game i played with americans I never used them.