Those "Yay... oops" Moments

Mr. Do

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In the late stages of my current game I wanted a bit of help to take on one of the more powerful civs, so I tried to get their largest neighbour to sign a military alliance with me against my enemy... they had a trade embargo out on me and I didn't have enough money so all I could offer the AI in exchange was a tech, one that was worth a LOT of money. So I checked to see how I could even the balance, and the final deal was something like the military alliance + I give them the tech and they give me more than 100GPT.

I thought this was pretty smart of me, help in my war plus a load of cash every turn... until three turns later I had completely exhausted my ally's treasury and the only way for him to not have to disband loads of units or sell improvements was to declare war on me. D'oh.

Just to rub salt in my wounds I reloaded to the end of the turn before they declared war on me, contacted the civ and found that despite the fact they couldn't afford the alliance they already had with me, they were still happy to pay another 100GPT for another tech of mine :eek:
 
Wierd. In all my games, I've found it very difficult. to get AI civs to pay gpt. "They would never accept such a deal". I see that all the time.
 
BasketCase said:
Wierd. In all my games, I've found it very difficult. to get AI civs to pay gpt. "They would never accept such a deal". I see that all the time.
Maybe you don't watch your reputation. e.g.: RoP/MA/MPP/Lux rape, ect...
When you make a deal, you should respect the 20 turn limit, that is.
 
Yeh, I had one of those moments today. Finally overtook the pesky Babylonians singlehandedly. I had just sent over four transports filled to the brim with Infantry to guard my marine-captured cities when the civ whose ocean I was passing through and who I had a ROP with (Iriqouis) informed me that our ROP had expired and he would be siding with Hammy. Bugger. His dozens of Battleships ripped through the AEGIS cruisers guarding my tansports and massacred my boatloads of Infantry that I had spent many turns creating, then turned and crushed my weakened Marines, taking the cities I had righteously liberated from the Fascist Babylonian Pigs and taking out half my amphibious force in doing so. This was extremely unhandy, especially seeing as I was playing an Archipelago map.


Didn't matter wither way though, seeing as my computer crashed minutes afterwards as I tried to rally my military to position.
 
BasketCase said:
Wierd. In all my games, I've found it very difficult. to get AI civs to pay gpt. "They would never accept such a deal". I see that all the time.
They usually simply don't have the money to pay you GPT.
 
That's odd. Later on in the game, when everyone's established, in my games civs like England, Greece and Rome usually have tons of GPT. This is on Monarch level though, it might be different higher up because I've never played above Empreror and even find that amazingly difficult.
 
Happened to me a couple of times. If they do not have enough to pay then they just declare war. I prefer lump sum.
 
I'll go with a simple one... Mowing down enemy Longbows when they try to attack my mobile armies, then realizing that a hoarde of enemy cavs are in the fog after I attack the Longbows and am unable to get away. D'oh.
 
This type of thing has happened to me before. Once I moved some units to a city that needed a few shields and decided to disband the units in that city (I needed to disband them for a number of reasons.) I disbanded without looking and accidentally disbanded an army along with the other units!
 
The worst "Yay - Oops":

Your troop stands alone in enemy territory, survives 2 attacks to get elite then spawns MGL - Yay!

The enemy is not done attacking - Oops!
 
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