TNT Files Term 7 - 9

Just (last night) had a chat with Donsig, he has not been to TNT for a while due to over committment (2 jobs and Uni)

So then there were 2.
 
I notice our trade route with TNT has reappeared, I guess because Dnut's new town connected the road. Unless anyone has strong objections, I plan to gift TNT our excess furs and ivory - hopefully that will enable them to turn luxuries down.
 
Quick chat with Donsig

fe3333au: hi
donsigw: you up last time).
donsigw: hi
donsigw: you got part of an e-mail there!
fe3333au: sorry did i interupt another AIM chat LOL
donsigw: no - I was just e-mailing <censored personal info>
fe3333au: I can wait ... I am just chatting nothing urgent
donsigw: all done

Any Intel
fe3333au: so you still TNT active?
donsigw: haven't looked at the fourms too much lately ... homework! ... is TNT still alive?
fe3333au: yes .. we just sent (last turn) some furs and ivory ... I was hoping for an update on how goes the war ... but I guess I'll go through g-mail

TNT update from our perspective
fe3333au: you have 3 cities left as far as I can tell
donsigw: I'm looking at the forum now ... they don't post much info on what's going on
fe3333au: we notice that you took 5 KISS Trebs ... but also lost a settler last turn or one before

Hot from the TNT forum
donsigw: looks like we have a stack in our capital ... minimal defences in the other two cities
donsigw: I did find a screenshot ... two big green stacks near our capital - each a couple tiles away
fe3333au: ouch ... any Nut activity ... we see none?
donsigw: also a couple good sized purple stacks each three tiles from the capital ... BCLG says one of those has a settler in it

Silky History
donsigw: did they give you the Keep or did the Nutters take it?
fe3333au: they are going crazy since the Pyramids ... you razed it
donsigw: do you have a city over there yet?
fe3333au: we built a city directly under the mountain ... so we have control of 2 ... but Nuts are surrrounding us

Refugee Options
fe3333au: do you think you will join another team?
donsigw: looking at the new rule now ... I think I will lobby to have my teammates all join one team together if they will then I'll go with them.
donsigw: We'd most likely come to your place :) ... would we be welcome there?
fe3333au: we have been getting the bedding together just in case
donsigw: lol
fe3333au: of course we are very inclusive ... I learn through interaction and discussion of strategy
donsigw: do you guys still have wines?
fe3333au: yes
donsigw: we'll need lots to drink
fe3333au: don't tell anyone but I may be able to find some of the supplies that were 'lost'

<new bestest drinking buddy> :beer:
donsigw: we'll keep those losr supplies to ourselves ;)
fe3333au: sounds good i have a little party space under the foreign offices shhhh

MIA forum structure
fe3333au: We have a well defined forum ... with links to important threads ... so it shouldn't be too difficult to navigate and get upto speed
donsigw: I'll see if I can rally the troops. I figure we can sneak through the jungle and get to your silk city - you'll have to supply the boats to get us to the other continent
fe3333au: smuggling is an option ...

Fun option should be important
fe3333au: but if the desicion is to join another team ... that is cool too ... important in big picture is for everyone to have fun
donsigw: yeah but I'm trying to convince everyone we'd have more fun staying together

:hmm: interesting option
donsigw: I thought if we went to Greece maybe you guys would 'give' us a city so we could all settle in together. We could have some fun roleplaying that

Maybe we can get workers because trade links are open !!!
donsigw: Too bad we can't give you guys some workers to settle in one of your cities. Then we'd show up as Persian citizens of Greece
fe3333au: I personally like the idea ... not sure how rest of team would think ... regarding workers (maybe you could as trade link seems to be active) well that could be an option too ... also bring any spare cash you have left with you
donsigw: I remember the good old days when we have chests and chests full of gold...
donsigw: well, it's been a long day for me ... I've gotta call it a night and go home
fe3333au: good chatting
donsigw: well good night
fe3333au: nite
donsigw signed off at 12:26:46 PM.
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Sent to TNT g-mail

Title ... Fur and Ivory are a gift
Dear TNT

We have sent you 2 luxuries to assist with war weariness and other happiness issues your population may have ... we ask nothing in return, no strings attached.

We are interested in any military intel you can supply about our rivals ... and also wish to extend an invitation to join us when the inevitable happens and you have been overwhelmed by KISS and Nuts forces ... take as many out as you can in your Custerian effort :salute:

Talking to Donsig, with our trade link open, you may wish to consider sending us any spare cash or workers you have just to keep them falling into enemy hands.

Anyway as mentioned there are no strings attached to our lux gift ... give 'em hell :ninja:

All the best MIA
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Well wonders never cease ... only when the city is razed :lol:

Communique from the soon to be extict TNT

Title ... Re: TNT-MIA Diplomacy
greekguy said:
Dear MIA,

Thank you for the generous luxury gifts and the recent gift of much needed Iron to help continue our cause. Hopefully this will keep us alive and fighting for a few more turns. However, we are currently running a negative gpt at the moment, and will lose troops from a budget defecit next turn if we don't supplement our income. So, could you please send us 30 gold per turn to help keep us in the game for a little longer.

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador
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Begging for cash ... I'm loathe to give any money ... however ...

Title ... MIA Questions sent to greekguy and g-mail.
Dear beleaguered TNT

We received your message, it came unexpected after such a long silence and I am unsure if we can assist with gold as we have our own projects to fund.

So I have to ask a number of questions, before we can even begin to entertain sending additional support.

1. Have you sold off ALL non defensive buildings in your remaining city ???

2. While we gave the luxuries and iron freely, we also requested Battle Logs so that we could build a picture of our rival's military strength ... this has gone unanswered for some time now.

3. What are your thoughts about refugee status (if your team scatter to other teams we fear the intel that will be revealed about us) ... therefore we would like to know the number of actives you have and if possible who, if any plan to join MIA.

4. How will you handle the final turns ?!!
... will you sell ALL building for the gold?
... will you send MIA any remaining gold you have prior to your eventual fall?
We would hate for us inadvertently add to our rival's treasury. ;)

5. I assume you have no workers left, but if you do will you gift them to us?

6. What is your exact status? ... perhaps sending us a screenie of your city would be good for evaluation purposes.


Therefore before we can even begin discussion on increasing our level of support we need these questions addressed.

Know this however, even if all the information required is sent does not automatically lead to us sending gold.


Sincerely

Feaurius III
MIA Foreign Offices
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hmm why don't we gift them a city and start a "Free TnT army" to combat the KISS hordes while we're at it? :lol:
 
Unfortunately that is against the game's rules ... we already got a ruling from the game's referees regarding just such a thing. ;)

greekguy said:
Dear MIA,

We apologize for keeping out of contact for so long, but matters of state kept us busy and the shortage of active members was not helpful either. We are currently at the point that all we can do to help you is to kill more Iroqi or Galls, as we have almost no assests to speak of. We don't need any gold, however, as we sold our barracks to keep our gold levels above 0. Here's our answers to your questions:

1: Yes, we have no buildings left and were even forced to sell our barracks in Dancing Banana last turn to keep us out of a budget defecit.

2: Our turnplayer currently does not have the time to gather the Battle Logs together. They aren't worth much anyway, as they just show us losing cities and troops at a rapid rate.

3: Most of our team is not sure who they will join as a refugee once we are eliminated. You can expect these people to join new teams when we are eliminated: myself, BLCG100, donsig, Strider, Vind2, lost_civantares, and Donovan_Zoi (maybe).

4: We have no gold left to give you and we have only 1 city left, our capital Dancing Banana. We managed to kill some stacks of Iroqi recently with our remaining Immortals, but most of our Immortals died in our last charge into enemy lines. We plan on fighting to the end, defending Dancing Banana until the last No-Namer falls in combat.

5: We have no workers left, they were merged with our cities many turns ago.

6: 1 city surrounded by stacks of Iroqi Swords and MWs, and Gallic Trebs, Gallic Swords, and other KISS units. We rather not send you a screenshot, as we don't want any trouble concerning game rules.

Bye for now.

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador
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Screenies are allowed ... but do we really need it ... I say send no cash, however am not concrete on the issue.

I guess we can light a candle for them :p

Anyone want to send cash ???
 
2: Our turnplayer currently does not have the time to gather the Battle Logs together.
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Since the logs have to be sent to the admins, KISS, and Dnuts, TNT could easily send them to us if they wanted to - it's just a matter of copying and pasting and anyone on the team could do it. Tell them MIA voted to send TNT the gold, but when I played the turn, I didn't have time to open the diplomacy window.:rolleyes:
 
I am tempted to say yes, if 30 gold per turn will keep them alive for 4 turns we can get their free industrial age tech... Also for the obvious reason, that the longer we keep kiss troops there, the less time they have to get back before turn 166
 
Black_Hole said:
I am tempted to say yes, if 30 gold per turn will keep them alive for 4 turns we can get their free industrial age tech... Also for the obvious reason, that the longer we keep kiss troops there, the less time they have to get back before turn 166
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No way. The risk is too great and the reward is too little for this to even work. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope I make myself clear. ;)
 
If they can provide significant reasoning to why 30 gold per turn will keep them alive for 4 turns, then I think it is worth it to get their industrial age tech.

However, if we cannot reasonably expect them to survive the next 4 turns (which I highly doubt they will, considering they have only 1 city left), I do not think we should give them anything more.
 
Don't forget as General_W pointed out - there are issues getting their Industrial Age tech anyway. Specifically, we have to give them all Middle Ages techs which may not sit well with the Dnuts.
 
No gold. No barracks = no healing = no chance of lasting more than a couple turns.

A last desperate charge into enemy lines?!

No gold.
 
:hmm: I guess we are agreed ... if they had been keeping us updated with KISS and Nut stack intel it may have been different. They really should have kept us in the loop, especially when we gave them luxes and iron :rolleyes:

I'll either compose a letter or AIM chat our decision. I guess they were grasping at straws anyway.

Not at my computer atm, so will wait until I get home :D
 
Thinking of sending some midinformation just incase some members refugee at KISS' door.

Dear TNT

We have read your reply and unfortunately cannot assist with cash, we consider that the greatest threat is Nuts and if we can extend peace with KISS will need gold soon to enter the fray. We will continue sending the luxes and iron but no money.

Best of Luck

MIA
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Thoughts?
 
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