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which country do you think will win the world cup in south korea/japan? my opinion is that argentina seems to be best right now and sweden won´t even manage to come to the play off.
 
What about France!

About Japan I think that many people will be surprised by their performance but they still have no chance of winning...

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Although I don't know anything about football, I can tell you France isn't going to win once again because all the good players are dead (I mean retired of course). The once glorious "Tricolore" team has been. No, it's not that I hate French team, nor am I pessimistic, but I'm quite realistic. That's all.

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England of course.
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Originally posted by animepornstar:
which country do you think will win the world cup in south korea/japan? my opinion is that argentina seems to be best right now and sweden won´t even manage to come to the play off.

No you are wrong. I think Sweden will come to the play off and do pretty well I think, (yes I am a optimist). But they won't come to top 4.

The 4 teams that will come to semifinals will be Argentina, Italy, France and Brazil.

Myabe Enlgand, Portugal or Germany will manage to fight them slef up also.

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No don't think Holand is good enugh this year.

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Hmmm tough one....

I think that Portugal or Brazil are the best guess for the title. And countries like Italy and England as runner-up's

And of cause DENMARK!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shadowdale, I guess you were thinking you'd win the European Championship 2000 as well, and we all know what happened then! (3-0, 3-0, 2-1). I think it's going to be France, maybe Portugal. Holland? Neeh. They even might not be there!

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i agree that the france squad is to old. petit and dechamps are not even in the first eleven in barca/valencia. brazil is corrupted like anarchy in civ2.

håkan, sweden has no knowledge in offensive playing right now. we need a playmaker like brolin.
 
Watch out for us Yanks this time around. We might move up to 31st when all is said and done this time!!!!
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Hey willemvanoranje are you sure that the last match was 2-1 I thought that it ended 2-0!!!
And stop reminding me of that cursed summer - No instead you should remember the golden days of 92 - boy those where time.....

And yes I know that we aren't playing all that well, BUT we still have our secret weapon and that might just turn the odds around.

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håkan, sweden has no knowledge in offensive playing right now. we need a playmaker like brolin.[/B]

We have many good players right now. Like Ander Svensson and Marcus Albäck. But no team like the "WM 94-team" thats for sure.

But I think that some teams from Africa could have a chanse to suprise. Like Nigeria for instance.

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Toughie...

Let's see, Brazil - won't manage to qualify, Italy - nah, don't have a good enough team, I think Portugal! (Got Figo, Pinto, all those.) My tip, Portugal beat Holland 2-0 in the final!

Shadowdale, what's the Danish secret weapon? Michael Laudrup? Or Frank Arnesen?

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Has Sweden ever won the World Cup or played in a Final? I seem to remeber them hosting it in the 50s or 60s, and making good in 94, with that groovy Kennet Andersen.
Also, heard a English friend of mine taunting a German with the following chant:
"Two world wars and World cup! Do Dah! Do dah!"
Well, they've got to have something to be proud of, besides warm beer and the worlds worst weather
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Originally posted by Simon Darkshade:
Has Sweden ever won the World Cup or played in a Final? I seem to remeber them hosting it in the 50s or 60s, and making good in 94, with that groovy Kennet Andersen.
Yes, they have played in a Final. Hosted the World Cup in 1958 and lost 2-5 to Brazil in the Final. In the semi-final they beat West Germany 3-2, after being 0-2 down (the Swedish 1-2 goal a deliberate handball)
In 1994, they came third, beating Bulgaria 4-0 in the third place match. They lost 0-1 to Brazil, I think (ask Håkan for the exact result, he probably knows)
And BTW, Norway probably won't make it to the World Cup next year (shame)

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[This message has been edited by Håkon (edited May 04, 2001).]
 
For anyone that's interested:

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The Swedish way to Bronze in 94 world cup.

The GROUP games:

Cameroon vs. Sweden 2:2 (1:1)
Sweden vs. Russia 3:1 (1:1)
Brazil vs. Sweden 1:1 (0:1)

Sweden got second place in the group.

First Round of 16:

Saudi Arabia vs. Sweden 1:3 (0:1)

Quarterfinal:

Romania vs. Sweden 2:2 a.e.t. (1:1, 0:0)4:5 penalty kicks

Semifinal:

Sweden vs. Brazil 0:1 (0:0)
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Third Place:

Sweden vs. Bulgaria 4:0 (4:0)
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1958 FIFA World Cup Sweden

After Switzerland, Sweden was named host country for the 1958 World Cup a Cup which, on 16 October 1956, lost its founding father when Jules Rimet died in Paris at the age of 83.

Sweden's Hamrin (above, in a duel for the ball) presented a big problem to the Soviet defence in their quarterfinals match

Brazil, inspired by a 17-year-old youngster called Pelé, won the trophy for the first time. Pelé scored against Wales, hit a hat-trick in a 5-2 win over France in the semi-finals and struck two more in the final, a 5-2 triumph over the hosts.

Frenchman Just Fontaine scored 13 goals in the tournament, a record which still stands. It was also the first World Cup in which a match ended in a 0-0 draw: the first round game between England and Brazil.

By television to the world

For the first time the World Cup received international television coverage and the world could watch the mastery of the stars of modern football: Kopa, Fontaine, Charlton, Yashin, Garrincha, Vava and Pelé, who at 17 scored six goals, including two in the final when the Brazilians, at last, were crowned world champions.

After TV coverage had been introduced for the World Cup games in Switzerland in 1954, the world entered a new era. Eight years after the disappointment of Rio, Brazil proved unstoppable with a 17 year-old Pele in the team and won the first of their four titles. Another of the players was a certain Mario Zagallo, who was there again in 1962 as a player and then in 1970 as coach, when the team took home the Jules Rimet Cup forever after their third win.
That new names will appear near the top of the list of goalscorers in 1998 seems unlikely; still in the lead are Gerd Müller (Germany) with 14 goals (1970 and 1974) and Just Fontaine (France) with 13 in 1958. Pele scored at least once in each of his four World Cup appearances (1958-70), and has a total of 12 to his credit.


The 6th World Cup was also to be marked by a record number of countries taking part (55). The qualifying rounds threw up some startling surprises: Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Spain, Uruguay and, most unexpectedly, Italy, all failed to qualify. The first round of the finals offered the public the chance to discover new footballing nations such as Wales, Northern Ireland, the USSR and Sweden. Most notably, however, it was the team from France which caught the public's eye with its incisive attacking trio of Kopa, Piantoni and Fontaine. The "Blues" were to garner a string of honours: Best Goalscorer (Just Fontaine-13 goals; Fontaine's record stands to this day, unlikely ever to be surpressed), Best Attack (23 goals) and Best Player, elected by an international panel, Raymond Kopa. France finished top of its group in the first round, scoring 11 goals in three games. But the fairy-tale ended in the semi-finals against the competition favourites Brazil.

After consecutive disappointments in 1950 and 1954, the Brazilians set out to make amends. They finished on top of a difficult group which included Austria (3-0), England (0-0) and the USSR (2-0). In the quarter-finals against Wales, Brazil pegged away for an hour before a stroke of brilliance by a young 17-year old made the difference. This was the first World Cup goal scored by Pelé - a star was born. In the semis, Pelé went on to devastate a French side which could do nothing to stop him scoring .

Mercenaries and magicians

Once again Brazil had made it to the final, this time against Sweden. The Swedes' presence in the final was astonishing in that it was a side built from scratch for the tournament, a great deal of debate having gone on before deciding whether to make professional players in the Italian league eligible for World Cup competition. Yet the Swedes proved to be a solid, well-built unit, beating West Germany, the defending Champions, in the semi-finals (3-1). In the "mercenaries" vs. "magicians" final, it was the former who started more strongly. For the first time in the competition the Brazilians were behind. Not for long, however: thanks to goals by Zagallo, Vava and above all Pelé, who scored twice, Brazil won its first World Cup (5-2). FIFA President Arthur Drewry presented the gold statuette to the Brazilian captain Bellini.

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GenghisK. don't be so pesimistic about France!

They still have many chances!

Final-four pronostic: France, Nederlands, Brasil, Argentina

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