Total War Future

[Gr3yL3gion]

They can use themes from China's history, or Mongols.

 

[mango20022002]

Medieval II Total War has already been announced. http://www.totalwar.com

I would like a future TW game to focus on the wars of religion in Europe during and after the Reformation. The "religion" trait would play a similar role as in BI, but with the religions being Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Sunni and Shia Muslim. As before, cities with different religions to your own would be more rebellious but you could gradually convert them by demolishing their places of worship and replacing them with those of your own religion. I would also like the Iranian Safavid's to be in this game as a Shia faction. Countries would have Catholic and Protestant provinces that are at variance with the majority, leading to rebellions e.g. Catholic Northern England (in most of 16th century), Catholic rebellions in Ireland, Protestant ones in France and Germany etc.

I would like the game to cover the period 1567-1700. I would like the "events" window to include the Great Fire of London, Plague breakouts, the Rye House Plot, Flight of Mary Queen of Scots to England, the Gunpowder Plot, and the excommunication of Elizabeth I. 1567 would be a good starting point because Mary arrived in England that year, the Dutch War of Independence started in 1568, and because Poland united with Lithuania in a Commonwealth in 1569.

Units should include pikemen, musketeers, mortars and cannon. Playable factions should include:

England
Scotland
France
Spain
Portugal
Navarre
Holy Roman Empire
Kingdom of Naples
Morocco
Netherlands
Ottoman Empire
Papal States
Russia
Poland
Bohemia
Denmark (controlling Norway)
Sweden (controlling Finland)
Savoy (Northwest Italy)
Transylvania
Venice

As an unplayable faction I would include Switzerland because of its internal civil-wars at the time. Probably not important enough though to be playable. Perhaps other countries can take advantage of this to form alliances and acquire territory. I would still give the Pope a role for Catholic states similar to the Senate in Rome and the Pope in Medieval and Medieval II. Muslim clerics would have the power to call Jihads like in the model planned for Medieval II.

 

[Donkey Puncher]

personally I would like to see mongalia or genghis Khan total war

 

[Red Door]

I want to see a World War 1/2 Total War.

 

[steviejay]

for some reason I'd never thought of a WW1/2 Total War. I suppose you could just change it to something like '20th Century - Total War', it'd need to be a World Map Though...... some comps would melt with that much processing required

 

[Red Door]

for some reason I'd never thought of a WW1/2 Total War. I suppose you could just change it to something like '20th Century - Total War', it'd need to be a World Map Though...... some comps would melt with that much processing required

It would be the same as Civ 4.

 

[steviejay]

heh true never thought of it like that. but to contain the level of detail in themaps.... that would slow it down somewhat

 

[Sisonpyh]

CA mentioned that their next installment might delve into the Fantasy realm. They apparently don't like Gundpowder eras and the engine probably doesn't either.

Anyways, there is only one answer to this thread. Warhammer: Total War.

 

[steviejay]

Na, they'd never get the rights and I don't think CA'd let anyone have their engine.

I actually got a suprise yesterday when I stumbled upon Alexander: Total War in my local Game store. I'd heard nothing about it. I'd buy it, but with Med Total War 2 just around the corner I'll hold off

 

[Drakan]

CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.

 

[steviejay]

really? awsome (although I fear that by doing this they're trying to save money on being creative but simply redoing the old games with a gradually updated engine) Do you have a link Drakan?

 

[Sisonpyh]

CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.

No they haven't.

Provide a link of proof if otherwise.

 

[Drakan]

No they haven't.

Provide a link of proof if otherwise.

They haven't announced it officially but it has been hinted heavily.

Unfortunately the website in which I read it seems to be down for the last two months or so:

http://forums.rometotalrealism.org/

And as any true fan of RTW knows they are the ones behind the wildly popular Rome Total Realism Mod. It is there that I learnt earlier this year that Medieval 2 : Total War was going to be realeased this year long before Gamespot or any other website even knew or posted any such news.

The fans of rometotalrealsimorg were always in the know-how long before something went mainstream.

So Sisonpyh I won't take as a disrespect the tone of your post because they haven't made it official yet, as you highlight, and won't make it official until early 2008 (after all they have to sell M2:TWs expansion pack first) and unfortunately their website has been down these last two months so I cannot post a link to the exact thread where I read it.

Albeit if you take your time to read through their threads and posts, at least once it's back up online 'cause they are changing server I believe, you'll see that in a couple of threads this is mentioned by very knowleadgeable posters regarding the TW series; people that I and others have come to respect in time.

 

[Sisonpyh]

So Sisonpyh I won't take as a disrespect the tone of your post because they haven't made it official yet, as you highlight, and won't make it official until early 2008 (after all they have to sell M2:TWs expansion pack first) and unfortunately their website has been down these last two months so I cannot post a link to the exact thread where I read it.

Albeit if you take your time to read through their threads and posts, at least once it's back up online 'cause they are changing server I believe, you'll see that in a couple of threads this is mentioned by very knowleadgeable posters regarding the TW series; people that I and others have come to respect in time.

Translation: I (Draken) was just talking out of my ass.

CA has not said anywhere that they will be doing Shogun Total War 2 next. Nor have they implied it. So how about you stop spreading cliche fanboi rumours and acting like your statements are fact when you nothing to back them up.

As a matter of fact, CA implied in the 'Bonus Materials' DVD under the chapter 'Future: Total War', that came with Total War Eras, that they wanted to continue the series in an original manner. They even mentioned the possiblity of delving into the fantasy realm. Nothing about the segment implied they would do a rehash of Shogun, quite the opposite actually.

And yes, hopefully you take my tone to be disrespectful in this post. It wasn't meant to be disrespectful in the previous post, but after your snobby 'true fan' comment, it seems well deserved.

 

[Drakan]

It's drakan with an "a", you spellt it wrong.

Nothing is a fact until proven as you rightly point out.

Look I'm not going to enter into a pointless discussion with you here. As I already made clear in my last post to you I cannot back up my claim because that website is down.

Long before Civ IV was released, we knew tons of details from CFC because its a website made by fans for fans of the game. They weren't "fact" until the game was released and we finally saw those long-commented features built in the game.

It's not about being a snob Sisonpyh, it's about people who like the game and are dedicated followers of the franchise. Similar to CFC is rometotalrealismorg which amongst it's posters have game designers, skinners etc.. who develop games, mods and also have ex employees of CA posting. Have you actually visited rometotalrealismorg's website ?

I think you are under the distinct impression that fansites are for 20 year-old wishful thinking "fanboys" (again you spellt this wrong) when the truth is that you have members of all ages.

So you can call it an educated guess if you wish by people who know well the company and what to develop a game means not just careless posts by a bunch of brainless 15 year-olds who are blindly guessing.

You have to understand that it's much easier for CA, for numerous reasons, to deliver a new instalment of something previously existing than creating something from scratch such as a Fantasy realm game as you point out. CA love the Sengoku Jidai period because it's perfectly fit for a TW type of game, this has been posted a zillion times by them.

Anyway, we'll see early 2008 who was right when they anounce they 5th instalment. Taking into consideration also that SEGA bought CA last year the next instalment of the TW franchise is a no brainer IMHO.

 

[Sisonpyh]

It's drakan with an "a", you spellt it wrong.
I think you are under the distinct impression that fansites are for 20 year-old wishful thinking "fanboys" (again you spellt this wrong) when the truth is that you have members of all ages.

Word of advice, if you plan on being a Grammar Nazi, don't make the same mistake. It is spelled, 'spelt', not 'spellt'.

The way I spelled fanboi was intentional. You really need to catch up with the internet slang man.

Nothing is a fact until proven as you rightly point out.

Look I'm not going to enter into a pointless discussion with you here. As I already made clear in my last post to you I cannot back up my claim because that website is down.

You already enterered and started the pointless discussion. You stated that Shogun Total War 2 would be CA's next project as if it was fact. I called you out on that lie and for some reason you became defensive about it.

It's not about being a snob Sisonpyh.

Actually, in your case it is. Your 'true-fan' crap has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Based Similar to CFC is rometotalrealismorg which amongst it's posters have game designers, skinners etc.. who develop games, mods and also have ex employees of CA posting. Have you actually visited rometotalrealismorg's website ?

Oh ok, so if the website of a popular RTW mod says something - IT MUST BE TRUE. Forget the fact that none of them actually develop games or speak for CA currently.

So you can call it an educated guess if you wish by people who know well the company and what to develop a game means not just careless posts by a bunch of brainless 15 year-olds who are blindly guessing.

An educated guess my 13 year-old cousin could of came up with. The rumour may end up being right, but it's nothing more than speculation at this point.

You have to understand that it's much easier for CA, for numerous reasons, to deliver a new instalment of something previously existing than creating something from scratch such as a Fantasy realm game as you point out. CA love the Sengoku Jidai period because it's perfectly fit for a TW type of game, this has been posted a zillion times by them.

Thank you captain obvious. Yes, of course it would easier. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Truth of the mater is, I actually provided you evidence of CA (themselves) implying that there is a good chance of developing a rehash of old work would not be their next project.

You on the other hand, provided nothing but internet speculation and presented as if it were fact at this point and time.

IMHO.

Thanks for your not-so-humble-opinion; as you most diligently proved by defining who and what is a 'true-fan'.

IMHO was all you had to say to begin with in your original misinformative post.

 

[Drakan]

As I posted already, thrice, you're right, CA has never officially made public what the 5th installment would be. I think there is no need to call me a liar. My post shouldn't have stated categorically that CA had made that clear because they haven't, as you bluntly pointed out.

I already made clear in the following posts which was my source of information, that website, which isn't a fact as you rightly point out.

I'm not giving a definition of who is or is not a true fan. All I'm saying is that there are members of that community which are heavily involved making games and have actually worked for CA, that's all. You can still love the game and be a fan and there is no need for you to visit that website. In fact in another fellow website (totalwarcenter.com) they are looking to recruit workers for CA now.

What I'm trying to make clear is that some of those members are very well informed regarding the TW franchise and there are not just your average 13 year-old-fan guessing. It's now been a couple of years reading the posts and have been proved to be extremely insightful in many aspects just like CFC is to the Civ franchise.

 

[Sisonpyh]

I think there is no need to call me a liar. My post shouldn't have stated categorically that CA had made that clear because they haven't, as you bluntly pointed out.

Although, I didn't call you a liar, I said your post was lie. It wasn't meant as an insult toward you, but directed at the content of what you posted.

evidence:

CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.

CA has not announced anything of the manner.

What I'm trying to make clear is that some of those members are very well informed regarding the TW franchise and there are not just your average 13 year-old-fan guessing. It's now been a couple of years reading the posts and have been proved to be extremely insightful in many aspects just like CFC is to the Civ franchise.

They might be well-informed in some areas, but their insight stops when it comes to what CA will be producing next.

No where have I implied or stated that the people who produced the Total Realism modification for RTW were brainless 13 year-olds. But you would be lying once again if you claim that their message board doesn't have at least some misinformed 13 year-olds posting on it.

edit: for clarity

 

[Cannae]

Anyways, there is only one answer to this thread. Warhammer: Total War.

My response to this is that

1 IMHO Warhammer sucks like a mound of crap

2 I aslo think that if they are to make a Fantisy total war game I would think it SHOLUD be somthing based of age of Mytholgy.

3 Last but not least I think that eather A future Total war game or a Collinial Total War game would be my number 1 picks

 

[Sisonpyh]

1 IMHO Warhammer sucks like a mound of crap

And you probably know next to nothing about Warhammer.

I aslo think that if they are to make a Fantisy total war game I would think it SHOLUD be somthing based of age of Mytholgy.

Age of Mytholgy? *yawn*