Why KingMorgan needs to die
A treatise by Askthepizzafly
Vote: choxorn
Got to be mafia if concerned with numbers.
Mafia want to act like they're solving. Often times their D1 random votes have serious business attached to them as reasoning. Of course, the serious business reasoning is against a townie. This way they can maintain the appearance of being a useful townie without lynching a fellow scumbag.
Competent, but wrong. That's how good scums operate.
Vote: KingMorgan
For having the gall to post directly before I do.
I voted him for it. But I didn't reveal my reasoning because it's not like that's enough to persuade people on day one. And scumbags tend to reveal more of their motive if they think they're getting away with it.
Note: This is a difference in my standard approach. It's not working to attack every suspect right away with everything I have because it doesn't convince people and it tips off my quarry.
What he did: Nothing for the remainder of the round, lynched a townie. Pressured zero scums, asked zero questions. Blends in because we didn't exactly do a bang up job being townies on D1 either.
That's page one of four, nothing completely damning so far.
Page 2: Zippo lighter.
Pizza gained votes, Lohren gained votes. Newyn got votes. All of these are likely townies.
Why would King Morgan even bother taking a risk on page 2?
Page 3: my pressure on KM increases. He votes for someone who is inactive in the thread, who I put as my top suspect.
If I am incorrect about remake20 being a scumbag, this is the easiest way to exploit town on town violence. Simply be a good supporter of the loudest towniest person.
If I am correct about remake20, well, this is good distancing, but I have doubts it's that.
My response to that movement was to ask him to give me more. Because he's leaving almost nada in the game thread, and he's under almost no pressure. That's winning for scumbags but terrible for townie solvers. KM is not a do-nothing townie from what I can remember, so, help me solve.
Cool I get play with the traffic lights.
Maybe Town
Kennigit and Newlyn - Claiming some mason stuff, bold move if not town. Enough for a town lean.
Lohrenswald - I get a bumbling town read, until it was pointed out that this game was different I was thinking he was playing as town, but maybe a pass for today.
Snerk - I have a town lean, not sure mafia would draw such attention early on, pass for today.
Al Sips - Seems legit on the face of it, no suspicious conduct as yet.
Mildly Suspect
Landlubber - Some odd comments, but looks better on a 2nd read. I like the pizza suspicion.
Xym - I'm mildly suspicious, but nothing of major note.
Cuthillius - A few posts, not much content, if remake flips scum then a good hard look.
Csargo - AWOL? not posted.
Askthepizzaguy - unreadable, but on the suspect list until proven otherwise.
Remake20 - His lynch would probably give the most information and its rude to lurk!
MartinLuther - Voting for Newlyn after the claim is very scummy imo.
I think I could probably support any orange name for the rope.
His list of townies is almost a carbon copy of mine and others. It takes no risks, doesn't challenge the status quo.
His list of suspects includes all of mine except him, and doesn't list them in any particular order of strength, and reveals no work done. There's also seven names on there.
The challenge is now to the townie to figure out where inside that orange group his partner is.
And of course, where inside the green group his other partner likely is.
I take that bet:
Me said:
Cool I get play with the traffic lights.
Maybe Town
Kennigit and Newlyn - Claiming some mason stuff, bold move if not town. Enough for a town lean.
Lohrenswald - I get a bumbling town read, until it was pointed out that this game was different I was thinking he was playing as town, but maybe a pass for today.
Snerk - I have a town lean, not sure mafia would draw such attention early on, pass for today.
Al Sips - Seems legit on the face of it, no suspicious conduct as yet.
Mildly Suspect
Landlubber - Some odd comments, but looks better on a 2nd read. I like the pizza suspicion.
Xym - I'm mildly suspicious, but nothing of major note.
Cuthillius - A few posts, not much content, if remake flips scum then a good hard look.
Csargo - AWOL? not posted.
Askthepizzaguy - unreadable, but on the suspect list until proven otherwise.
Remake20 - His lynch would probably give the most information and its rude to lurk!
MartinLuther - Voting for Newlyn after the claim is very scummy imo.
I think I could probably support any orange name for the rope.
Remake isn't out of the woods, but.
"If remake flips scum", what if Cuthillius flips scum?
Csargo? Wog.
Pizza? Town.
Martin? Your reasoning is bleh.
Xym? Maybe. But he's got the worst claim I've ever seen a wolf make if he's a wolf.
Landlubber? You hedge your bets on him and double down on the wrongness about me.
Man, if Cuthillius flips scum, I want KingMorgan hung
immediately thereafter.
I think your town list is stolen from mine.
I begin crossing off names on his orange list which I think are wrong, or the reason leads to the opposite conclusion.
Csargo is easy to put as orange because he has done zero.
Remake is easy because he's ATPG's top red candidate at the moment, and there's zero reason to mark him off as green even if he is a townie. Which is why inactive townies are actively helpful to the scumbags because they provide cover.
Me? That was a poor move.
Xym had nothing in his favor, and it's only my gut telling me his explanation for his lurking and his role are null, and townie stuff, respectively.
Leaves landlubber who doesn't trust me, and vice-versa. Doesn't matter what LL's alignment is, not marking him off as townie is a good move here.
Cuthilius. "If remake20 flips scum, give him a look" This is essentially my case against remake20 and Cuthilius almost verbatim. He's stolen my reasoning, but if remake20 is a townie, and Cuth is a townie, this is perfect for a scumbag to say. If remake20 is a townie, and Cuth is a scumbag, this is perfect for a scumbag to say. If remake20 is a scumbag and Cuth is a townie, this is perfect for a scumbag to say.
^This is the motive. The scum motive. The scum pretense at solving, and the scum manipulation.
And there's zero effort put into his town leans. Any of them could be scum, and you can't tell them apart.
He's not a townie.