Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
@ d-man - nice job as a trainer. If the game lasts that long, don't forget about cops and engineers.
TR01 - Help a loser out
- Thread starter Tubby Rower
- Start date
eldar
ChiefTank
Hmm, has anyone built the Great Library...?
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Sorry I haven't been involved the past couple of days, I slept all day Friday due to illness and was still recovering all weekend long. I got the save and will play tonight. Now to catch up and read all of the posts.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
I agree. dman, you've done a good job of explaining not only what to do but giving reasons for it. Although I didn't agree with some of the stuff, I understood you're logic behind it and gave it a try. Thanks for you're help.Admiral Kutzov said:
Looks like tonight I'll be able to play with the Siphai!!
Are these the goals?
- gather siphais & elite horsemen in multiple stacks near Indian border.
- Trade met. to India to make Great Wall obsolete
- Verify no units inside Ghandi's border
- Wipe out India
- if time go after Japan
Is that all?
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
I've got great news and not so good news. We have a decision to make.... I'll have screenies, save and turn log in less than an hour unless work interferes.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
First the great news, 6 turns, 5 casualties, one nation down 
Minimap @ 590AD
Minimap @ 650AD
we'll have the not so good news in the turn log around turn 9...
T0 550 AD - sold all libraries except the ones where the borders hadn't expanded yet.
Converted low shield and/or corrupt cities to wealth and put enough taxmen in them until there was zero growth
384G +339gpt
upgrade horse to siphai in Sinop
disbanded sole warrior in old Egypt. save 2 gpt
T1 560 AD -Pi-Ramses aqueduct -> harbor
Urfa worker-> worker
Bingol's borders expand -> sell library
Upgrade Orhan (GL generator elite horse) to Siphai
Upgrade vet horse in Cuzco to Siphai (had to move to Bolu to do it)
Give Abe the boot order
misc worker stuff (irrigating exterior cities and cleaning marsh for use)
found Iskenderun on Indian border
All siphai will be in place in 2 turns most elite horses will be too
T2 570 AD -Istanbul siphai -> siphai
Vitcos harbor -> barracks
Kafa borders expand -> sell library
upgrade 2 vet horses to siphai
Give Abe the boot order again.
Gave japan the boot order and he said he was just stopping by to borrow a cup of rice
did some scouting with some siphais that were in place -> Lahore has a spearman; Kolhapur has a musket
T3 580 AD -Edrine siphai -> siphai
Aydin settler-> settler
Urfa worker -> worker
Russia built Leos
Everyones in place next turn is it.
India's building 3 wonders
Here's the battle plan
T4 590 AD -Ollantaytambo barracks -> Siphai
Ghandi just built Knights Templar in Madras for us, that was nice of him...too bad he won't be able to us it
move galley out of Indian territory
trade Ghandi Metallurgy for Theology and 24 g (this is to make the Great wall obsolete)
Declare war on India
Battle of Kolhapur
siphai army takes out musket only losing 1 hp
Golden age begins
spear was very pointy -> took off 4 hp off army but we prevailed and won
Battle of Lahorne
Siphai takes out spear with no hp loss
try elite horse on next spear same result but no GL
2nd elite horse is killed by 2rd spear but red-lined him
siphai killed last spear winning the city
position other 2 siphais in place to take Madras next turn
take out war elephant resulting in promotion (3hp)
Battle for Hyderabad
1st siphai is redlined but retreats no damage to musket
2nd takes out musket losing 1hp
3rd siphai takes out spear winning city but takes 2 damage
try leader fishing with a longbowmen on mtn lose one -> next one wins and doesn't promote
move troops out of Lahorne to coax archer to retake it. then will go after him with my elite horse
give metalurgy around (Russia, America, Japan) to prevent India from signing alliances with it
upgrade 2 siphai
530 gpt due to golden age!
T5 600 AD -India takes back Lahorne with archer and also puts a warrior in there for protection (oooohh)
our people want to build the heroic epic and the military academy
Thebes barracks -> siphai
Ankara siphai -> siphai
Iron Horse siphai -> siphai
Izmit siphai -> siphai
Huamanga library -> wealth
Konya siphai -> siphai
Sinop siphai -> siphai
Urfa worker -> worker
India just built for us the Sistine chapel in Dehli. That'll be nice
elite horse beat warrior after taking archers arrow in the chest and won no leader
2nd elite horse takes out warrior & archer....no leader
Lahorne is ours again with 1 less citizen too!
try to go after Japur with straggler Siphai but he's killed by a regular spearman!
Take Madras with just one siphai losing 1 hp to a spear we have Knights Templar!
Battle for Delhi
siphai takes out spear
army siphai takes out spear and a unit inside become elite
army siphai takes out spear and DEhli is ours
upgrade 3 horses to siphais
IBTwar elephant come out of fog and gets siphai going for new capital
longbowmen dies inflicting 2 damage on siphai near Jaipur
archer come in and finishes the job
T6 610 AD -Kafa barracks -> siphai
Bolu amrketplace -> siphai
resistance ends in Delhi -> starving taxmen
resistance ends in Hyderabad -> starving taxmen
upgrade 3 horses to siphai
Siphai comes in and avenges death of previous siphai
army goes up to Bombay (new capital) and takes out musket and spear to take city
T7 620 AD -Istanbul siphai -> siphai
resistance ended in Bombay -> starving taxmen
Bursa siphai -> siphai
Corihuayrachina library -> wealth
Vitcos barracks -> siphai
Urfa worker -> worker
war weariness is bad up lux to 20%
2 siphais take out the 2 spears in Jaipur
Calcutta only had 1 reg spear in it and took it with no problem
Banglore fell 1 siphai with no loss & promotion to elite
for some reason Bengal (northern most town) had 2 spears. 2 siphai each took 1 hp loss
army runs down and takes out a spear in Chittagong
3 cities left
T8 630 AD -the Great Library taught us Education (forgot to burn Delhi, Doh!)
Ollan.... rioted and broke down barracks I guess I need to up the slider again
Edrine siphai -> siphai
Machu Picchu siphai -> siphai
Aydin settler -> settler
Antalya siphai -> siphai
Bingol barracks -> siphai
Riza library -> wealth
War elephant appears in Chittagong -> army takes him out
elite horse loses 2 to a spear then takes city
vet siphai takes out spear in Punjab to take city and promotes
hurry barracks in Delhi to heal army
All new siphais moving to Japan border
1 city left couldn't reach it
T9 640 AD -Delhi barracks -> library
forgot to raise lux
Crusader from KT
Urfa worker -> worker
palace expansion -> chose the schrubery
Ask Abe to leave and he decides he wants to rumble....ok
take out his random warrior
American MDI redlines a siphai before it retreats.
then anther sipahi takes him out. gets two slaves from settler
take out musket in last Indian holdout
spear kills siphai (that's twice) but he's redlined
take red-lined siphai and kill last spear
India is gone now for Abe....
looked at lux slider and everyone was happy. I guess we got a boost from ending the war with India and the fact that Abe declared lux @ 0%
T10 650 AD -Iron Horse siphai -> siphai
Izmit siphai -> siphai
Vilcas Library -> aqueduct
Andahuaylas library -> wealth
Save from 650 AD
Afterthoughts
The green circle has the healed army and about 6-9 other siphai. Some siphai are in old Egypt, some on the northern Russian border, the rest are in transit or quelling resistors. Japan is polite currently. Russia is annoyed I believe. I think that we should forego Japan for now (maybe even sign an alliance) and go through Russia. I mean declare on Russia and take them out too. I don't think that America has anything better than knights and I don't think that we want to see the cossacks out. So we should go ahead and take out Russia then be able to go on to America
Minimap @ 590AD
Minimap @ 650AD
we'll have the not so good news in the turn log around turn 9...
T0 550 AD - sold all libraries except the ones where the borders hadn't expanded yet.
Converted low shield and/or corrupt cities to wealth and put enough taxmen in them until there was zero growth
384G +339gpt
upgrade horse to siphai in Sinop
disbanded sole warrior in old Egypt. save 2 gpt
T1 560 AD -Pi-Ramses aqueduct -> harbor
Urfa worker-> worker
Bingol's borders expand -> sell library
Upgrade Orhan (GL generator elite horse) to Siphai
Upgrade vet horse in Cuzco to Siphai (had to move to Bolu to do it)
Give Abe the boot order
misc worker stuff (irrigating exterior cities and cleaning marsh for use)
found Iskenderun on Indian border
All siphai will be in place in 2 turns most elite horses will be too
T2 570 AD -Istanbul siphai -> siphai
Vitcos harbor -> barracks
Kafa borders expand -> sell library
upgrade 2 vet horses to siphai
Give Abe the boot order again.
Gave japan the boot order and he said he was just stopping by to borrow a cup of rice
did some scouting with some siphais that were in place -> Lahore has a spearman; Kolhapur has a musket
T3 580 AD -Edrine siphai -> siphai
Aydin settler-> settler
Urfa worker -> worker
Russia built Leos
Everyones in place next turn is it.
India's building 3 wonders
Here's the battle plan
T4 590 AD -Ollantaytambo barracks -> Siphai
Ghandi just built Knights Templar in Madras for us, that was nice of him...too bad he won't be able to us it
move galley out of Indian territory
trade Ghandi Metallurgy for Theology and 24 g (this is to make the Great wall obsolete)
Declare war on India
Battle of Kolhapur
siphai army takes out musket only losing 1 hp
Golden age begins
spear was very pointy -> took off 4 hp off army but we prevailed and won
Battle of Lahorne
Siphai takes out spear with no hp loss
try elite horse on next spear same result but no GL
2nd elite horse is killed by 2rd spear but red-lined him
siphai killed last spear winning the city
position other 2 siphais in place to take Madras next turn
take out war elephant resulting in promotion (3hp)
Battle for Hyderabad
1st siphai is redlined but retreats no damage to musket
2nd takes out musket losing 1hp
3rd siphai takes out spear winning city but takes 2 damage
try leader fishing with a longbowmen on mtn lose one -> next one wins and doesn't promote
move troops out of Lahorne to coax archer to retake it. then will go after him with my elite horse
give metalurgy around (Russia, America, Japan) to prevent India from signing alliances with it
upgrade 2 siphai
530 gpt due to golden age!
T5 600 AD -India takes back Lahorne with archer and also puts a warrior in there for protection (oooohh)
our people want to build the heroic epic and the military academy
Thebes barracks -> siphai
Ankara siphai -> siphai
Iron Horse siphai -> siphai
Izmit siphai -> siphai
Huamanga library -> wealth
Konya siphai -> siphai
Sinop siphai -> siphai
Urfa worker -> worker
India just built for us the Sistine chapel in Dehli. That'll be nice
elite horse beat warrior after taking archers arrow in the chest and won no leader
2nd elite horse takes out warrior & archer....no leader
Lahorne is ours again with 1 less citizen too!
try to go after Japur with straggler Siphai but he's killed by a regular spearman!
Take Madras with just one siphai losing 1 hp to a spear we have Knights Templar!
Battle for Delhi
siphai takes out spear
army siphai takes out spear and a unit inside become elite
army siphai takes out spear and DEhli is ours
upgrade 3 horses to siphais
IBTwar elephant come out of fog and gets siphai going for new capital
longbowmen dies inflicting 2 damage on siphai near Jaipur
archer come in and finishes the job
T6 610 AD -Kafa barracks -> siphai
Bolu amrketplace -> siphai
resistance ends in Delhi -> starving taxmen
resistance ends in Hyderabad -> starving taxmen
upgrade 3 horses to siphai
Siphai comes in and avenges death of previous siphai
army goes up to Bombay (new capital) and takes out musket and spear to take city
T7 620 AD -Istanbul siphai -> siphai
resistance ended in Bombay -> starving taxmen
Bursa siphai -> siphai
Corihuayrachina library -> wealth
Vitcos barracks -> siphai
Urfa worker -> worker
war weariness is bad up lux to 20%
2 siphais take out the 2 spears in Jaipur
Calcutta only had 1 reg spear in it and took it with no problem
Banglore fell 1 siphai with no loss & promotion to elite
for some reason Bengal (northern most town) had 2 spears. 2 siphai each took 1 hp loss
army runs down and takes out a spear in Chittagong
3 cities left
T8 630 AD -the Great Library taught us Education (forgot to burn Delhi, Doh!)
Ollan.... rioted and broke down barracks I guess I need to up the slider again
Edrine siphai -> siphai
Machu Picchu siphai -> siphai
Aydin settler -> settler
Antalya siphai -> siphai
Bingol barracks -> siphai
Riza library -> wealth
War elephant appears in Chittagong -> army takes him out
elite horse loses 2 to a spear then takes city
vet siphai takes out spear in Punjab to take city and promotes
hurry barracks in Delhi to heal army
All new siphais moving to Japan border
1 city left couldn't reach it
T9 640 AD -Delhi barracks -> library
forgot to raise lux
Crusader from KT
Urfa worker -> worker
palace expansion -> chose the schrubery
Ask Abe to leave and he decides he wants to rumble....ok
take out his random warrior
American MDI redlines a siphai before it retreats.
then anther sipahi takes him out. gets two slaves from settler
take out musket in last Indian holdout
spear kills siphai (that's twice) but he's redlined
take red-lined siphai and kill last spear
India is gone now for Abe....
looked at lux slider and everyone was happy. I guess we got a boost from ending the war with India and the fact that Abe declared lux @ 0%
T10 650 AD -Iron Horse siphai -> siphai
Izmit siphai -> siphai
Vilcas Library -> aqueduct
Andahuaylas library -> wealth
Save from 650 AD
Afterthoughts
The green circle has the healed army and about 6-9 other siphai. Some siphai are in old Egypt, some on the northern Russian border, the rest are in transit or quelling resistors. Japan is polite currently. Russia is annoyed I believe. I think that we should forego Japan for now (maybe even sign an alliance) and go through Russia. I mean declare on Russia and take them out too. I don't think that America has anything better than knights and I don't think that we want to see the cossacks out. So we should go ahead and take out Russia then be able to go on to America
Wow!!! Great!! 
Tubby smelled the blood ....
Good plan... We are in golden age, have tons of money...
In our core cities do not wait for Sipahis to be completed... When few turns are left just use cash to rush them... Do not collect gold. I repeat do not collect gold... Use it all each turn to rush more sipahis.
Since india is gone we don't need more than one mp to quell resistors...
Can rush cheap pike or bows to do the job.
Sipahis towards russian front...
What's bad about russian front - bunch of jungles and few roads...
We might sing MA with Japs against both America and Russia and also get ROP from them if they have roads.
I expect next player to finish off russians. Maybe build couple of galley in izmit (or better some other more corrupted city)
and send 4 sipahis to that southern island to clean it as well.
It looks like we can achieve conquest win faster than domination. Well. That depends on how far and how large persian land is.
Tubby smelled the blood ....
Good plan... We are in golden age, have tons of money...
In our core cities do not wait for Sipahis to be completed... When few turns are left just use cash to rush them... Do not collect gold. I repeat do not collect gold... Use it all each turn to rush more sipahis.
Since india is gone we don't need more than one mp to quell resistors...
Can rush cheap pike or bows to do the job.
Sipahis towards russian front...
What's bad about russian front - bunch of jungles and few roads...
We might sing MA with Japs against both America and Russia and also get ROP from them if they have roads.
I expect next player to finish off russians. Maybe build couple of galley in izmit (or better some other more corrupted city)
and send 4 sipahis to that southern island to clean it as well.
It looks like we can achieve conquest win faster than domination. Well. That depends on how far and how large persian land is.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
We have 749 in the bank currentlydmanakho said:
eldar
ChiefTank
Wham Bam Thank-you Mam! Er, Tubby...
[Edit]
Any cities producing 20spt (I doubt it... Istanbul didn't look close)?
If so rush a CH instead of a Sipahi, and switch to the Sipahi... should still finish in 1 turn, but save 80 gold.
Wish we had Infantry, they're much better for short-rushing Sipahi :crazy eyes:
Neil.
[Edit]
Any cities producing 20spt (I doubt it... Istanbul didn't look close)?
If so rush a CH instead of a Sipahi, and switch to the Sipahi... should still finish in 1 turn, but save 80 gold.
Wish we had Infantry, they're much better for short-rushing Sipahi :crazy eyes:
Neil.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
roster check:
dmanakho
Veovim
eldar
Minute Man
Tubby Rower - just played
DBear - up!
ÆnigmÆffect - on deck
BTW, I think most if not all of the vet horses were upgraded. I left a few elites to grab that random warrior that seems to always think that it's bigger than it really is.
dmanakho
Veovim
eldar
Minute Man
Tubby Rower - just played
DBear - up!
ÆnigmÆffect - on deck
BTW, I think most if not all of the vet horses were upgraded. I left a few elites to grab that random warrior that seems to always think that it's bigger than it really is.
eldar said:Any cities producing 20spt (I doubt it... Istanbul didn't look close)?
If so rush a CH instead of a Sipahi, and switch to the Sipahi... should still finish in 1 turn, but save 80 gold.
Wish we had Infantry, they're much better for short-rushing Sipahi :crazy eyes:
Neil.
Smart advice! Thanks Eldar/Neil!!! I forgot about that.
We actually may have few cities producing 20+spt. (can't load the save at work to check) We are in Golden Age, remember? So we can use Eldar's advice.... Rush cheaper structure first (CH for example) and then switch to Sipahi to save money.
As for the rest of the game - I doubt Tubby Rower will get a chance to play again in this game... It will be over before full moon.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Any bets on who will play the final turn. I'm thinking Veovim or eldar...dmanakho said:As for the rest of the game - I doubt Tubby Rower will get a chance to play again in this game... It will be over before full moon.
Minute Man
Prince
Good job, Tubby! 
Way to use all those sipahi I left you.
So Abe decided he's tired of living, eh? :suicide: Don't think it really matters, since we're getting close to the point where we can just take on the rest of the world if we feel like it.
Actually, if this gets past D-man I'm going to be very disappointed in our trainer.
Way to use all those sipahi I left you.So Abe decided he's tired of living, eh? :suicide: Don't think it really matters, since we're getting close to the point where we can just take on the rest of the world if we feel like it.
Tubby Rower said:
Actually, if this gets past D-man I'm going to be very disappointed in our trainer.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Yes thank you for that great set up.Minute Man said:Good job, Tubby!
I looked at crpStats & we have 40 siphai now. DBear and Aenigma are going to have fun. I sent DBear a PM since he hadn't been on in a couple of days to let him know that this will probably be the last time we go around the roster.No pressure here. Just all eyes will be on dman during his turn!!Minute Man said:Actually, if this gets past D-man I'm going to be very disappointed in our trainer.
