trade/peace treaty expiration remaining?

[RedwoodTree]

after you sign a peace treaty, but then still later want to take them out, how do you monitor when your "peace treaty" is over, so you can re-attack them and not suffer the "you broke your word" curse?

Same for trade treatys...how much time is left, etc...I find no way to monitor these?

 

[Padma]

On the Diplomacy screen, where you talk to the other leader, look at the bottom of the diplomacy window. You will see a label like "Active Deals". Click on that, and it will show the current deals with that civ. If there is time remaining on a per-turn deal (trade, peace treaty, etc.) the number of turns left will be shown in parentheses, like "Peace Treaty (7)".

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Go to the diplo screen, seek an audience with the relevant AI ruler. Then click on the option to seek a new deal. At the bottom bar, you shld see something like 'Active' deals. Click on it and it'll show you all your existing deals with that AI civ and remaining turns till expiration in brackets.

 

[RedwoodTree]

all I see is "peace treaty----------------peace treaty"...there seems to be NO way to cancel it without the "they are scum" message coming up, and war resulting!!

 

[RedwoodTree]

and it does NOT show the number of turns remaining for the active trades...for instance, I see:

9 Gold Per Turn -------- Dyes


there is no "number of turns remaining on it"


AND I always see:


peace treaty--------------------peace treaty



with EVERY civ, and I've never been at war with any of them.

 

[Willem]

Peace treaties don't have a turn length, you're either at war or at peace. You don't re-negotiate every twenty turns whether or not your going to war with each other. If you want to start one, you just attack, or try to get the other civ to attack first. Once you sign a peace treaty, you stay that way until one civ attacks the other.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Willem
Peace treaties don't have a turn length, you're either at war or at peace. You don't re-negotiate every twenty turns whether or not your going to war with each other. If you want to start one, you just attack, or try to get the other civ to attack first. Once you sign a peace treaty, you stay that way until one civ attacks the other.

Nope, once you have just signed a peace treaty after a war, there's a 20 turns limit for that. If you break that peace treaty during that 20 turns, your rep will take a hit.

Other than that, a peace treaty has no limits, like what Willem is saying.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by RedwoodTree
and it does NOT show the number of turns remaining for the active trades...for instance, I see:

9 Gold Per Turn -------- Dyes


there is no "number of turns remaining on it"

The deal has expired. If you can click on it, means you can end it or renegotiate.

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by RedwoodTree
all I see is "peace treaty----------------peace treaty"...there seems to be NO way to cancel it without the "they are scum" message coming up, and war resulting!!

well, if you do not have peace with them - whyat do you have???????????


btw: check the two threads linked in my sig.....

 

[MSGT John Drew]

ack! the killer strikes again!



exactly killer. I did have this confusion a while back. If you did not sign for peace when you first meet them then what the hell is that peace treaty doing there. I further thought there were three states of diplomacy: peace, war, and something I call neutral (which I defined in the start of this paragraph). Turns out there are only 2 states - War and Peace! Film at 11!

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

MSGT JD: I do remeber fondly the times of Civ2 where you could be 'neutral'....

 

[MSGT John Drew]

is that so? (I couldn't remember - I only got to playing Civ2 just a number of times at a friend's house and that was 6-7 years ago). Wonder why they removed it?

 

[Willem]

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
Nope, once you have just signed a peace treaty after a war, there's a 20 turns limit for that. If you break that peace treaty during that 20 turns, your rep will take a hit.

Other than that, a peace treaty has no limits, like what Willem is saying.

Yeah, I suppose that would make sense. I've never actually looked closely at the peace treaty thing after a war. I generally don't start wars, I just try and finish them. I just know that I've never had to renegotiate a treaty.

 

[Willem]

Originally posted by MSGT John Drew
is that so? (I couldn't remember - I only got to playing Civ2 just a number of times at a friend's house and that was 6-7 years ago). Wonder why they removed it?

I think it would be kind of cool if they had something like a Cold War situation.

 

[RedwoodTree]

ok...thanks for the info, but for "fixaxis"...a suggestion

being "at" peace is VERY different from "having signed" a peace-treaty with someone!

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by MSGT John Drew
is that so? (I couldn't remember - I only got to playing Civ2 just a number of times at a friend's house and that was 6-7 years ago). Wonder why they removed it?

You could decline a peace treaty and got a cease-fire like thingy - meaning you could move troops into their land.... earlier version of ROP and the AIs abused it shamelessly. If you were a democracy you had no chance but to sit and wait until attacked.......