Tradition - Oligarchy not giving XP

ExpiredReign · Jan 31, 2013

I've just checked between 2 saves I have of the garrisons in my cities.

The first save was turn 266 and the last is turn 308. 40 turns, give or take.

Now if each unit gets 0.2 XP per turn that's about 8 XP gained. Yes?

However none of the units have gained any XP what-so-ever.

I know it was working early on as I would get the 'Promotion' notifications.

Is it supposed to stop after a certain period?
Does some other policy, or another mechanic cancel it out? I don't think so. :confused:

AlpsStranger · Feb 1, 2013

I don't usually use oligarchy and I don't know much about Civ5's internals, but I have an off-the-cuff theory: What if .2 is so low that it's being rounded away to 0 at some point?

mystikx21 · Feb 1, 2013

It's typically worked throughout, it just starts taking a lot longer to accumulate the necessary XP to level up such that it becomes less valuable.

I usually take oligarchy for the free garrisons (combined with the honor policy for happy/culture) more than the XP anyway.

AnthonyG · Feb 1, 2013

Yeah, I have archers getting promoted in the atomic age, etc. And it seems to be working as normal for me in the latest version (1.13.4).

ExpiredReign · Feb 1, 2013

In the early stages of the game, right after taking this policy the change was happening properly. As I said there were Promotions happening.

Now its not so much the length of time to wait for promotions. This naturally would take much longer. Its the fact that absolutely NO experience was gained for any unit in any city. They show the same XP despite 36 turns passing.

mystikx21 · Feb 1, 2013

Right, agreed, that's a problem. You have a log? Maybe we can find if there's a conflict somewhere.

AnthonyG · Feb 1, 2013

Did the experience ever show up before a promotion? I never checked. I just got a promotion, to an old unit, at about turn 380.

PS I'll load an autosave a few turns back and see if the increase in XP is noted.

agc28 · Feb 1, 2013

I'm really confused by the tradition policy that builds a culture building in 5 oldest cities...It seems to take razed cities into account???

EDIT: I assume the same thing happens to the policy that builds a science building in 4 oldest cities.

Is it possible to have it changed to "build a building in 5 LARGEST cities"?

ExpiredReign · Feb 1, 2013

Now this is really weird.

I started playing again from the last save and now the units are accruing XP and being promoted.

I have not changed the setup in any way. No new mods, no removal of old mods. Just the exact same setup as the previous 2 saves.

Here's the Lua.log from this moment

Spoiler :

Edit:

I reckon I know what the problem is.
The way I was checking the XP for each Unit was with the Tooltip that displays when the mouse is over the Unit's icon, but the Unit itself is not selected.
When I do select a Unit and check the Tooltip over the Unit display in the bottom-left corner a different figure (the correct one) is shown.

Seems the first Tooltip is only updated every so often, perhaps on game loads or Promotions. Maybe the way the XP is assigned is slightly changed as to gaining it through conflict?

So there is nothing wrong with the Policy per se. Perhaps its the tooltip or the manner the XP is assigned.

Sadly that appears out of my league, I will have a look around though.

AnthonyG · Feb 2, 2013

Excellent. (That it's working for you).

I'd just come back to say it is (also) showing XP increases on my units. You are right about the tooltip not always being accurate; actually there is a lot of stuff that is out of sync in this version.

Tradition - Oligarchy not giving XP

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