Turkish MOD - Turks as a playable civilization

Lord_Thor said:
Personally I wouldn't have voted for her, partly because she contributed to the rising of Sultan Selim II (Selim the Drunk), her son. He was such a bad ruler that some people refuse to accept that it came from Suleyman the Magnificent's bloodline. I'm not denying all the other stuff she has done for women but this contribution kind of overshadows those. Well.... maybe it won't be so bad to have an empress in the mod.
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Right, but i am judging her by her power and role in the empire, not necessarily by her legacy.
 
Anima Croatorum said:
Worked better than marrying cousins. So, are they Turkish or Greek/Slavic? :D
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Lol, wish it were as simple as that. But as a matter of fact, by the end of the empire along with Turkish/Greek/Serbian they were also mixed with Venetian, French, Russian, Ukranian, Polish, Georgian and Circassian blood, mostly noble, some plain.
 
Really I think this should be an Ottoman Civilization mod, you say they were a "dynasty" of Turks, yes they are a Turkish tribe, but they established an empire named soley after the leaders family name, an empire which existed for 600 years or more. I personally believe the best option is to call the civilization Ottoman and assume "Turks" are part of that, much like the civilization of Rome are the Romans in Civi 4, and its assumed the "Italians" are part of that. Take the greater of the various incarnations of the empire. Also I think Bayezid would make a nice ruler to add some variety, perhaps Philosophical/Industrious. As he was known for his wise decisions, and modernisation of the Naval fleet.
 
CyberRaptor said:
Really I think this should be an Ottoman Civilization mod, you say they were a "dynasty" of Turks, yes they are a Turkish tribe, but they established an empire named soley after the leaders family name, an empire which existed for 600 years or more. I personally believe the best option is to call the civilization Ottoman and assume "Turks" are part of that, much like the civilization of Rome are the Romans in Civi 4, and its assumed the "Italians" are part of that. Take the greater of the various incarnations of the empire. Also I think Bayezid would make a nice ruler to add some variety, perhaps Philosophical/Industrious. As he was known for his wise decisions, and modernisation of the Naval fleet.
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There's a lot of people who prefer Turkish than Ottoman. Ottomans were a great civilization that lasted for 600 years and vanished, but Turks have been around for thousands of years and have established many empires that ruled vast territories (aside from Ottomans: Seljuks, Mameluks, Karamanids, Khazars, Safavids, Gok Turks, Mughals of India, Ilkhanids, Timurids, Uighurs, Blacksheep, Whitesheep, Tulunids, Ghaznavids, Khwarzems, Karahanids, and the list goes on...)

Unlike Ottomans however, Turkish Civilization survives in different independent countries: Republic of Turkey; Azerbaidjan; Turkmenistan; Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus; Uzbekistan; Kyrghizistan; Kazakhstan; and several autonomus republics within Russian Federation such as Tataristan; Dagestan; Bashkordistan etc.

Many other Turkish communities exist in other countires, some of whom are being opressed as in Crimean Tatars in Ukraine, People of Eastern Turkistan in China, Western Thracian Turks in Greece, Turkmens in Iraq, Azeris and Turkmens in Iran, while some of the luckier Turkish communities have democratic rights as in Bulgaria where the ethnic Turkish Party is a partner of the governing coalition (a great step forward after years of systematic assimiliation policies of Todor Djivkov) and in Macedonian Republic, Turkish is recognized as an official language in municipalities with Turkish population. There's also a significant number of Uzbek and Turkmen population (15%) in Afghanistan, who are still suffering from the effects of the devastating wars, invasions and Taleban's former opression.

As much as my mod is Anatoli-centric, I will try to include cities and leaders of other Turkish eras as the mod evolves.
 
I am playing your nicely designed Mod and I would like to thank you for the mod. Anyway, I think there is a small problem with the city names when it comes to Zonguldak some tags appears before the city name. When You change city name, it repeats itself for the next city.:thumbsup:
 
Right, but i am judging her by her power and role in the empire, not necessarily by her legacy.
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I understand where you're going with this but she used that power and her high role in the empire to kill Sultan Suleyman's sons. A leader's legacy is directly related to how she used her power.
 
Lord_Thor said:
I understand where you're going with this but she used that power and her high role in the empire to kill Sultan Suleyman's sons. A leader's legacy is directly related to how she used her power.
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We are pretty much on the same page here. I am in no position to approve/disapprove or judge her legacy. The reason I considered her as a leader was because of her ability to seize power. How she used her powers is beyond my concern.
 
Ugurt said:
I am playing your nicely designed Mod and I would like to thank you for the mod. Anyway, I think there is a small problem with the city names when it comes to Zonguldak some tags appears before the city name. When You change city name, it repeats itself for the next city.:thumbsup:
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Very interesting problem. I will look into the matter as soon as I get a chance and try to see how it occurs. I honestly, never expanded my lands to have that many cities so far. At some point I am planning to add new cities to the list, and will test each one of them to avoid similar bugs. Thank you for the feedback. :)
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
I created a Turkish civ myself here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=143865 and I've used many ideas of this thread as civilopedia entry, idea for the second leader and others. I'm posting to say thanks!!!
I'm posting to offer help too: I did a 3d LH, static, for Sultan Selim I, in case it interest to the creators of this Turkish Civ, just download my file to get the *.dds files necessary for this LHs. :D And I'll create a 3d model for President Ataturk too, u can use in this mod if u want ;) I'll create this new model soon.

I expect I can help u and thanks for help me :)

turks017et.jpg
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hey dude!It's really good as a graphic but the background and his clothes is not like Turkish or Ottoman.Neither Turkey nor Ottoman Empire was an Arabic country.It looks like an Arabic or Indian leader and his country. If you change the background and leader will be so happy cause Its not like Turkish.You should know but thats not your fault all europe knows Turkish people and the country completely different. Thankss ;)
 
Although I do not have Civ4 it is great to see such good work. Keep them coming Tunch Khan.

BTW, I agree with you on the Turkish and Ottoman debate. I always preferred calling the civ turkish
 
Turcos said:
hey dude!It's really good as a graphic but the background and his clothes is not like Turkish or Ottoman.Neither Turkey nor Ottoman Empire was an Arabic country.It looks like an Arabic or Indian leader and his country. If you change the background and leader will be so happy cause Its not like Turkish.You should know but thats not your fault all europe knows Turkish people and the country completely different. Thankss ;)
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You are on the wrong thread my friend. That's CivArmy's Mod.
 
Sorry I haven't been updating the mod recently, but work got in the way. :) I'll probably be free for additional cities and Roxalena within a week or two.
 
I read that Ataturk was actually half Albanian and half Macedonian Slav ... is this true?
 
PS - I am extremely interested in this sentence:
NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE bide orda yukarda yanlis yapmissin osmanlilar avrupada yokdular fln diyene soyluyorum biz viyana ya kadar ordaydik be.
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Perhaps you can do me a favor and tell me if the bolded words are verbs or not?
 
Yes I understand, thank you for explaining that to me ... so instead of adding "s" at the end for plural additions like in English, you add "lar."

How about your verbs? Like Spanish has "Bailar" "Buscar" "Trabajar" for verbs, with various verb conjugations. Does Turkish have anything like that? Or is this pretty much a Latin trend?
 
May you live until 115 years of age.

But my age is unimportant.
 
Crash757 said:
There was 14 leaderheads done for Civ4 by CivArmy. But in this mod there are no new leaderheads, no new units, no new graphics... :rolleyes:
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You know what to do then don't you?

Make some yourself :sad:
 
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