Turkish MOD - Turks as a playable civilization

[jkp1187]

Khan,

Hey! It's real cool that you took my "Ronda Ala Turca" suggestion! I think I might suggest we play as the Turks in the next succession game I play with my friends.

Thanks again for your hard work on this.

JKP

 

[Tunch Khan]

Khan,

Hey! It's real cool that you took my "Ronda Ala Turca" suggestion! I think I might suggest we play as the Turks in the next succession game I play with my friends.

Thanks again for your hard work on this.

JKP

That was one fine suggestion I couldn't pass. It has become a nice addition. Thanks again.

 

[Tunch Khan]

There's an official Firaxis Poll on which civs and features to add for the next expansion. If you enjoy playing this mod, please vote for Ottoman Empire and Seljuk Empire options along with your other favorite civs and units.

VOTE​

 

[nebuchadnezzar]

oh, that's good. seeing two turkish empires in a poll.. voted for both, hope they put both .

by the way, i have an idea for a turkish unique unit. as we all know, turks were the first civilization to utilize gunpowder in combat. to reflect this, we may add a gunpowder unit (or units) to the mod. My idea is that, with the gunpowder tech, turks get a dragoon unit, something like an early cavalry. no replacement for other units.

 

[Balton]

Hey Tunch this is Greak Work.

Here is my suggestion for yet another unit (would be great to have multiple UUs): If my memory from History class serves me right, during the siege of Constantinople in 1453 (here the proper name is used because it hadn't fallen yet ), a certain kind of artillary was used. The builder was of Hungarian origin perhaps. This could be a new UU since this kind of unit is really lacking in Civ 4. I don't remember the details but it was these powerful siege weapons that brought down the walls that still exist in partial eek: ) in today's beautiful Istanbul.

Fixaris should also take notice of this thread and realise their mistake of not including this civ.

all the best for 2006

 

[Azmodai]

great work Tunch, I can't believe i've never noticed this mod before, i'll dl it now and give it a go

 

[Leong9000]

I agree. I don't want a Chinese civilization named after a specific Chinese dynasty, I want it being called the Chinese.

cant say i'm agree with you, when you learn more about that civis, you have more stuffs to consider, for example, many chinese introduced themselves as "tang ren" in cantonese, which refer to tang dynasty

and basically, we dont ourselve "qing ren" in our mother language

 

[Tunch Khan]

Turkish Mod v.1.2 (12/30/2005)
Features:

- Sipahi UU graphic added (beautiful skin made available by krowtrobot from CivFanatics)
- Sipahi is now in the "Knight" subgroup instead of "Horse Archer"

 

[Tunch Khan]

Hey Tunch this is Greak Work.

Here is my suggestion for yet another unit (would be great to have multiple UUs): If my memory from History class serves me right, during the siege of Constantinople in 1453 (here the proper name is used because it hadn't fallen yet ), a certain kind of artillary was used. The builder was of Hungarian origin perhaps. This could be a new UU since this kind of unit is really lacking in Civ 4. I don't remember the details but it was these powerful siege weapons that brought down the walls that still exist in partial eek: ) in today's beautiful Istanbul.

Fixaris should also take notice of this thread and realise their mistake of not including this civ.

all the best for 2006

The monster unveiled in front of the old majestic walls of Constantinople was 28 feet long, the bronze of the barrel 8 inches thick, firing balls which weighed 12 cwt, which had to be dragged, attended by seven hundred man, on a special carriage drawn by sixty oxen. On 7 February 1453, it was settled in place, this stone-thrower "of the newest kind", a strange sort, unbelievable when told of, but as experience demonstrated, able to accomplish anything, to await the Byzantine answer to Mehmed's ultimatum. It was nicknamed "The Basilica."

 

[Shqype]

It's a good thing you didn't put in those European cities, namely those of the Balkans, since they are not Turkish, neither by origin, ethnicity, or other means. Many of them were conquered and added to the Turkish Empire, but they still resisted Turkish rule and rebelled, many of them eventually gaining their independence.

Lords of the Horizons by Jason Goodwin is another good reading on Ottoman Empire. The legacy and importance of the Koprulu Family cannot be denied, and I did consider their names while creating the poll. However I personally did not find it comfortable to add them, while other prominent figures were still missing.

Wasn't the Koprulu family Albanian in origin?

 

[Shqype]

By the way, can you post here the "stats" of the Sipahi UU? Such as strength and what makes it different than a normal knight.

 

[MEGA_NOOB]

a UU idea would be Janisarry
or a unique Artillery unit


Great mod by the way

 

[Alekhine]

Hello people, thanks very much for this mod Tunch. I downloaded it last night and before installing I was browsing through the XML files and may have found a small error. In the CivilizationInfos file, under the listing for Turkey, it states that the unitclass for the UU Sipahi is horse archer and not knight. Will this affect the unit in game?

 

[Tunch Khan]

Hello people, thanks very much for this mod Tunch. I downloaded it last night and before installing I was browsing through the XML files and may have found a small error. In the CivilizationInfos file, under the listing for Turkey, it states that the unitclass for the UU Sipahi is horse archer and not knight. Will this affect the unit in game?

Thanks for bringing it up. At this point, I don't think there will be any problems with that. When I tested the last version (v.1.2) Sipahi was under the knight category, as it should have been. I will try to fix the typo later on, as long as there's no conflict.

 

[Tunch Khan]

It's a good thing you didn't put in those European cities, namely those of the Balkans, since they are not Turkish, neither by origin, ethnicity, or other means. Many of them were conquered and added to the Turkish Empire, but they still resisted Turkish rule and rebelled, many of them eventually gaining their independence.?

Beware when you use the words ethnicity and Balkans next to eachother. You might be dragged into treacherous waters.

Wasn't the Koprulu family Albanian in origin?

Koprulu family is Albanian indeed. They have provided seven Grand Viziers to the Ottomans, a record no other family has achieved. Much of the Ottoman elite was in fact of Albanian and Greek origin and almost no Turkish at all (after Candarli Halil's execution). Yet the official language being Turkish, it was considered as the Turkish Empire in the west.

 

[Shqype]

Were all the Sultans during this time part of the Ottoman bloodline?

 

[Tunch Khan]

Were all the Sultans during this time part of the Ottoman bloodline?

Ottoman bloodline? yes, Turkish blood? perhaps like 10%

Starting with -Osman's successor- Orhan's marriage with Princess Theodora of Byzantium, it became a tradition to marry foreign individuals.

 

[greenhead101]

Excellent work! thanks..

 

[Tunch Khan]

So how does everyone feel about Roxalena as the next Turkish leader?

 

[Lord_Thor]

Personally I wouldn't have voted for her, partly because she contributed to the rising of Sultan Selim II (Selim the Drunk), her son. He was such a bad ruler that some people refuse to accept that it came from Suleyman the Magnificent's bloodline. I'm not denying all the other stuff she has done for women but this contribution kind of overshadows those. Well.... maybe it won't be so bad to have an empress in the mod.