Turn 71 - 1250BC

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The save came, there was nobody around, I let it sit for 4 hours and then decided to play. Hope the citizens can forgive me for it.

There is not much to report. First, we got expansion to the Palace. Now our Palace looks like this:
 

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Second, our curragh is doing some serios exploring and revealed a portion of C3B core:
 

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Finally a few actions taken in our main land.

1) Our worker started to build road from the capital to Khazad-Dum.

2) Another worker is headed to TF and will build a road on the way.

3) Town of Savannah founded on the spot. Set to build warrior at the moment. This did not ao far decrease shield output in TF and our SoZ is still scheduled to be ready in 12 turns.

4) Saxon Skullcrushers came down from the hill to plains to decrease their visibility and to increase probability of barbarian camp appearing in the rog of war area.

5) Barbarian slave is heading home. He can build some roads on the way there.

6) Map Making is due in 4 turns running the budget at -1gpt. We can afford it.

7) Our capital is set to build a Granary. Do we want it? Or we want something else? May be another JT to escort settler to the iron island?

8) Rytty is building temple which is supposed to be the harbor prebuild. It is too advanced to be a galley prebuild. Is that OK?

9) Our JT which is the major concern of C3B has 3 hit points out of 4 and headed east to lure a barbarian to him. Still, did not see any of them.

Here is the picture of the mainland:
 

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There are few major concerns:

1) Viking civilization is indeed being eliminated. Whereas two other teams do prosper. Looks like it was or is a brutal war going on there. Alas, we cannot interfere since we have no contacts with them.

2) Observation of Joker from C3B was confirmed regarding that a few civilizations have Literature. They are apparently either going to build The Great Library or do extensive research.

3) We are mostly number 3 and number 4 in all Demographics. This is not good but how can we correct it?

4) Our military is still stronger than C3B. However, our score is lower. We have slightly less population and land area. They had a bonus resource on start which might be associated with revealed flood plains.

5) We need to decide on what to build in the capital and also need to dispacth a worker to chop forest for galley build. Otherwise, all is quiet.
 
Viking civilization? Who are they? GCA?

One less is good for us, but we need to eliminate 2 teams...

Your points sound clever, most of them, except that IMVHO we should build a JT in Fanatazuma to head for the Iron Islanc.
 
akots said:
The save came, there was nobody around, I let it sit for 4 hours and then decided to play. Hope the citizens can forgive me for it.

Did I miss something? I thought Matrix had first go at playing the save if the CoIA couldn't play it or was absent. Isn't the military dude suppose to wait 20 hours before playing the save?
 
magnusmarcus said:
Did I miss something? I thought Matrix had first go at playing the save if the CoIA couldn't play it or was absent. Isn't the military dude suppose to wait 20 hours before playing the save?
I think it was very good of akots playing the save, I and Matrix were very propably sleeping, I at least, and it would have taken at least 10 hours longer for us to deliver the save forward unless akots had played it then.
 
Ankka said:
Viking civilization? Who are they? GCA?

One less is good for us, but we need to eliminate 2 teams...

Your points sound clever, most of them, except that IMVHO we should build a JT in Fanatazuma to head for the Iron Islanc.

Yes it is, therefore I suggest we make a giant ship to help with the distruction of GCA :p
 
akots said:
There are few major concerns:

1) Viking civilization is indeed being eliminated. Whereas two other teams do prosper. Looks like it was or is a brutal war going on there. Alas, we cannot interfere since we have no contacts with them.

2) Observation of Joker from C3B was confirmed regarding that a few civilizations have Literature. They are apparently either going to build The Great Library or do extensive research.

3) We are mostly number 3 and number 4 in all Demographics. This is not good but how can we correct it?

Joker and I have determined that there are 3 teams on the other continant, and that 2 of them (CDZ and CGN) are allied aginst GCA. One civ (probaly CGN) is doing all of the reserch, while another one (probaly CDZ) is doing all of the fighting. When yuo are at war you do not reserch Lit, as it gives you no new units. So one much be playing as the resercher and the other as war person.
 
magnusmarcus said:
... I thought Matrix had first go at playing the save if the CoIA couldn't play it or was absent. ...

This is indeed a point of controversy. These things neither were discussed extensively nor polled nor there is a clear law about it. And our President is apparently unable to play for at least a week or may be more. And it was late at night. Hence, if I did not play the save would have to sit there apparently longer than 20 hours. Unless Matrix plays it early in the morning. :)
 
I am all for a quick turnover of the game, so if Matrix has no problem with it, I sure don't.

Is your Viking destruction theory based on the Main Scoreboard? If your estimates are true, then our relationship with C3B needs to be a solid as ever. Either that or we bail on C3B and scramble for the third spot.

Diplomacy should get interesting once we meet the other continent.
 
Darn... I was looking forward to possibly starting anew with GCA and allying them... ;)

I agree, Donovan. Diplomacy will become much more frantic once contact is made.
 
Donovan Zoi said:
... If your estimates are true ...

I'd like to know this myself. But looks like score of the Vikings is growing too slowly to be attributable to natural reasons. I'm sure that CDZ with their Macchiavellian Anarres would like to keep them alive anticipating the contact with us and C3B and somehow use them to bait us in negotiations. For example, just guessing what they can say:

"We are stronger than you, succumb to our powers or we will crush you both like a bug. We will eliminate you and C3B so that the remaining 3 civs get to the finals." Or, they can say something like this to us: "Let's kill C3B, we already reduced Viking to nothing. Once the C3B is gone, we wil kill the Vkings and you get to the finals". Same thing they say to C3B about us. Then, we go to war, weaken each other, they come and kill us both. And get to finals with weak Viking team eliminating two strong and honest teams.

You can call this all evil fantasies of overexcited brain but IMO it is quite possible. I'd prefer to stick honestly with C3B and have enough military power to crush CDZ with combined efforts from Immortals and AC/JT as early as possible before they get too powerful both in military and science. If we play aggressively and do not succumb to their false propaganda, we have a good chance to win.
 
akots said:
You can call this all evil fantasies of overexcited brain but IMO it is quite possible. I'd prefer to stick honestly with C3B and have enough military power to crush CDZ with combined efforts from Immortals and AC/JT as early as possible before they get too powerful both in military and science. If we play aggressively and do not succumb to their false propaganda, we have a good chance to win.

AMEN! We must stand by C3B no matter what. With the distruction of GCA they will try to go for us, and we will have an continantal alliance vs. continantal alliance. CDZ is thinking that they want an ally for the finals so they will keep CGN, thus attack us. WE MUST ENDURE AND STAND NEXT TO OUR GREEN ALLIES!
 
This is starting to get quite epic even before we have met the other teams. :lol:
 
Hear, hear! ;)

You know what CDZ's problem is? They play by the book. They're predictable, and that's something we can use!

I think we should only turn against C3B if the two of us loose the battle against CDZ&GCA, especially if it's C3B they're attacking first.
 
Actually would propably CDZ and CGN, GCA is losing by points currently A LOT. :p
 
Hopefully we can get to the other continent somehow with galleys! I am really looking forward to meeting the others!
 
Ankka said:
This is starting to get quite epic even before we have met the other teams. :lol:
Exactly what I was thinking! :lol: gert-janl, I think you said what all of us are currently feeling. This game will take on a whole new dimension once contact is made.
 
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