Typhoon of Steel - WW2 in the Pacific - Version 4

I've realized that the Dutch submarine costs '0' to build. Is that on purpose or a bug?
 
This looks interesting I am going to give it a try.
The problem with the carriers hanging around is a flaw in the AI, it just
can't seem to handle a large stack of carriers.
Couldnt you split the japanese carrier task forces into seperate stacks on adjacent tiles?
 
BadKharma said:
This looks interesting I am going to give it a try.

Couldnt you split the japanese carrier task forces into seperate stacks on adjacent tiles?

BadKarma.
I tried several alternate set ups, including placing every carrier in a seperate
stack with 3 escort ships, but it did not help. Hope you enjoy the game.
 
I wasn't able to download the big file for this scenario. Is the link correct?

I did other DL's without problems.
 
eric_A said:
Otacon_22:
The problem with the carriers hanging around is a flaw in the AI, it just
can't seem to handle a large stack of carriers. If you try bomdarding them
with just cruisers and destroyers (which do not have lethal bombard) it
may send the damaged ships home.

In the multiplayer game the battleships start out one tile south of Pearl so
they can be attacked separately. But the AI will not bomb them outside
the city. So what I did in the allied single player games was remove the
Arizona and Oklahoma from the start forces, they are considered already
"sunk" at the start of the game.
Having those ships sunk at the start sounds like a good idea.
 
BadKharma said:
Having those ships sunk at the start sounds like a good idea.

If you play US, of coarse it's nice.

In my game though it actually move ONE CV stack, but the rest just stay.

So far I have fought 5-6 Yamato Class BB and they certainly come in many, I still can't finish them.

I like the lower cost of ships, as I can now build BB like crazy and bombs away XD the industrial power of US rocks.

one of IJN forces actually sail right towards the Canadian Borders!!! I didn't even spot that, but for some reason it didn't really land any troops.

PS, fightesr like P-40 and F4f lacks the ranges for rebase as they can't even reach Peral Harbor as well as Dive bombers I need a Carrier acting as an in bewteen base for rebase.
 
Cloner4000 said:
PS, fightesr like P-40 and F4f lacks the ranges for rebase as they can't even reach Peral Harbor as well as Dive bombers I need a Carrier acting as an in bewteen base for rebase.
Yes I noticed that it is kind of a pain for ferrying units does anyone know if that was historically accurate? As far as fighters not being able to reach hawiaa from the west coast.
 
I think that the order of play could be a little different, specially in PBEM's.

1. Japan
2. USA
3. China
4. Commonwealth
5. Netherlands

This order would allow players to join weaker nations to stronger nations and still play together.

Just my 2 cents.

.
 
Although I can't be sure, but I don't think Hawaii is THAT far off it's about 1500 miles from Formosa to S.F. so Hawaii couldn't be more than 300-400 miles off and that should be able to reach by at least Dive bombers.

The later fighters however can reach Peral and Wake Island with no problem P-28 and P-51.

I notice that US Modernize BB are weaker than Fast BB but why is more expansive?

There is a Sherman Tank units done somewhere, it's in the mediterrian Mod, however, I only use Tanks rarely so it's probably not worth the trouble.

As for China, it still fall really quickly in the PBEM but not in the game I was playing, it may be cause Aksully's too good.
 
Cloner4000 said:
Although I can't be sure, but I don't think Hawaii is THAT far off it's about 1500 miles from Formosa to S.F. so Hawaii couldn't be more than 300-400 miles off and that should be able to reach by at least Dive bombers.

The later fighters however can reach Peral and Wake Island with no problem P-28 and P-51.

I notice that US Modernize BB are weaker than Fast BB but why is more expansive?

There is a Sherman Tank units done somewhere, it's in the mediterrian Mod, however, I only use Tanks rarely so it's probably not worth the trouble.

As for China, it still fall really quickly in the PBEM but not in the game I was playing, it may be cause Aksully's too good.

Cloner:
I will have to check my atlas tonight for the SF-Pearl distance.

Dive bomber and torpedo bombers can rebase from LA to Pearl, as for
the F4Fs and P40s you can use the Saratoga at start to rebase them and
then I always build a light carrier in LA or SF to act as an aircraft ferry.

The modernized US BBs are not intended to be built, they are put in the
game only to allow the old BBs to be upgraded. It would be a waste to
build them when the fast BBs are cheaper and better.

I had an idea about the IJN carriers, how about 2 sets of carriers?
The first set would start where the carriers are now, without any escort
at all. They would do the bombing and then the US fleet would come out on
turn 2 and sink all of them.
But the duplicate set of carriers, planes and escort ships would start in
various ports and so would be around later in the game.
 
Luthor_Saxburg said:
I think that the order of play could be a little different, specially in PBEM's.

1. Japan
2. USA
3. China
4. Commonwealth
5. Netherlands

This order would allow players to join weaker nations to stronger nations and still play together.

Just my 2 cents.

.

Luthor:
Yes, that order of play would be better, especially for 3 player games.
I will change it for the V1.03 release which will be out soon.
 
eric_A said:
Cloner:


I had an idea about the IJN carriers, how about 2 sets of carriers?
The first set would start where the carriers are now, without any escort
at all. They would do the bombing and then the US fleet would come out on
turn 2 and sink all of them.
But the duplicate set of carriers, planes and escort ships would start in
various ports and so would be around later in the game.

If that work it would certain makes sense but put the plane in bases where they can't attack Allies so it doesn't count as extra Airplanes.
Also can Peral Harbor get a commercial Dock? That way they can upgrade units too. Since Hawaii is a pretty important naval Base it would make sense that they can trade with mainland right?
 
Cloner4000 said:
Also can Peral Harbor get a commercial Dock? That way they can upgrade units too. Since Hawaii is a pretty important naval Base it would make sense that they can trade with mainland right?

Cloner:
There is a commercial dock in Pearl, but it usually gets bombed on
turn one, so you have to rebuild it. It seems any improvement that enables
sea trade is always the first thing to be destroyed during a bombardment.

I sometimes disband one of my old BBs in Pearl to speed up the rebuilding of
the dock.
 
I pretty much about finish with my game as US and I notice that all the Carrier-based plane has short range, perhaps that why they require a carrer?

In my game China is losing too, with about 4 cities left. I haven't really played China yet, but I think there should be more variety to the units since just purely defence wouldn't work as Japan can bombard any unites to critical health and easily take it out.

I believe Chinese Infantry Div should be made a little stronger. I know that their Euipments are poor and aren't very well trained, but they did held back the Japanese Invaders.

I propose to use the wonder in Escape Zombie Islands that produces a supply Drop that givens cash to those return to capital. By the way, Japan's exact day for Peral Harbor was Dec 8th because of the time zone difference, I spend a while arguing with my parents that it's Dec 7th before I realize it.

The Governments of China should be Republic as in 1911, The former Imperial Chinese Government was overthrown and renamed it to Republic of China.

I notice their is an army for Chinese, but it barely had any units fit to put in there.
7-7, today's the day that Japan formally Invades China in 1937... just saw that on Chinese News learn at lot of stuff. Like how the Chinese are using 30-year old rifles and Muser pistol against SNLF at Shagnhai.
 
I know the US transported alot of fighter aircraft from the US to England via jeep carriers (although there was an air route also it required fighters to use drop tanks) I still havnt found any information specifically on how aircraft got from the US to Hawiia although I do know there were ferry pilots in the WAC for the pacific theatre.
 
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