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Germany: Invade Switzerland UNDER ANY EXCUSE and face war with France, England, Spain, Libya. I keep on telling you this. You don't listen. If you don't change your orders, we WILL invade you.

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Libya and Spain, France applauds your efforts at peace, showing there are at least 2 other sensible nations besides France! France would like to form one giant WEST MEDITERRANEAN DEMILITARIZATION PACT, using your pact and a few French amendments. The pact follows this message ready for your signatures if you agree. The French amendments are in bold.

PACT FOR THE PURPOSES OF PEACE IN THE WESTERN MEDITERRANEAN

ARTICLE ONE: ARMIES
1. No armies must be seen in provinces 22, 23, 24, 19, 20, 21, 12, 13, 14, 15.

2. Armies currently in these provinces must retreat within one turn.

ARTICLE TWO: FLEETS
1. No fleets must be seen in seas I, J, H.

2. Any fleets currently in these seas must finish their business and retreat within 3 turns, or when the Italian War is over, whichever comes first.

ARTICLE THREE: RIGHTS OF PASSAGE
1. All three nations are guaranteed rights of passage in 10, 11, 12, 13, 32, 30, 31, 28, 27, in and only in the case of war against external enemies, for the purpose of fighting these external enemies, restoring the provinces retaken to their rightful owner or provinces conquered to the owner as determined by conference between the nations undersigned. Also in time of war, all nations undersigned receive the right of passage in whichever seas they need to reach the enemy and fight.

ARTICLE FOUR: PUBLIC BUILDINGS
1. Barracks and production centers are forbidden in 22, 23, 24, 19, 20, 21, 12, 13, 14, 15.

2. Barracks and production centers will always be allowed in any province which borders a province of an enemy nation, or one which has not signed the pact (examples, Prussia, Austria).

3. Other buildings, such as dockyards and town halls, will be allowed in all provinces.


APPENDIX: MUTUAL PROTECTION PACTS, and CONDUCT OF WAR IN ITALY.

1. France, Spain, and Libya hereby re-affirm their Mutual Protection Pact, swearing to aid each other in war both aggressive and defensive, against any and all external enemies.

2. A right of passage is granted to Spain for her to bring her armies in Italy.

SIGNED BY:

NAPOLEON, EMPEROR OF THE FRENCH PEOPLE


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To: Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte I of France
I don't much appreciate you running around telling everyone that my nation will back you up while we, in fact, have no actual signed agreement between us that Spain will help you in any war! Your conflict with the Germans over Switzerland, who I doubt are foolhardy enough to even CONSIDER stepping in there, is pitiless and we feel the need to squabble is quashed by your military presence.

I will not sign the Mediterranean demilitarization pact as it will completely hem my nation in and stagnate its growth. I don't know about you, Emperor, but I realize that being surrounded by friends is nothing less than a death sentence. I don't intend immediate war, but that is chopping of my mobility entirely, and I'm not about to hit the shores of Great Britain--not that I could, anyways, because I wouldn't be able to go through sea H.

I refuse to sign any such treaty that would forbade the development of my footstep into Europe (14 & 15). If it comes down to peace, I want to develop my land as much as possible, and this pact makes it impossible.

Also, by realizing the inability of the Spanish government to effectively wage a war, be it local or foreign, the mutual protection pact leashes Spain to France politically. We are leaders, not followers, and I will not send my brave men into battle under an invisible French flag.

While I congratulate you on your brilliant craftsmanship of a treaty to completely and totally undermine Spanish authority anywhere in Europe, we will not willingly sign any such document. Only with the realization that war is ultimately necessary to victory and with a pact suitable to this, if you can make it, would we sign anything even remotely similar with the French empire.

Good day, sir.

To: Sultan Calif Aku Bakr
We whole-heartedly accept the North African demilitarization pace and have commenced our orders as such. We look forward to cooperation in Italy together and expect you will respect our claims to 27 & 28.
 
First of all, may I remind you that you have MPP with me as well as Libya, and Libya has MPP with me as well as you. We are a triangle, not a fork. Also, Britain has MPP with you! How dare you threaten an invasion of his lands!

Now, as I understand it, you object to several things.

1. The DMZ in Sea H. If you think about it, Spain, I included this amendment for your own peace of mind! How many French provinces abut on Sea H? Two. How many Spanish provinces? Six! You have much more to fear from a fleet in H than I do! You need three times as many troops to protect your coast there. That's why I wanted to keep all of us out of that sea, so that you could devote your troops to more important battles instead of needlessly fearing foreign invasion. But you seem to think I want to strangle your growth.

2. You think I'm strangling your growth by not letting you build barracks in 14 or 15. Spain, the only POSSIBLE REASON you would want to build barracks in 14 or 15 is because you are planning an invasion of France! Likewise if I built barracks in 12 or 13 you would immediately accuse me of wanting to attack Spain. The point of this is the same as the barracks ban in North Africa - to make sure nobody can launch a sneak attack against anyone else.

If you agree to a barrack ban in N. Africa for both you and Libya, why refuse one in Pyrenees for both you and me, unless you're plotting an attack on me? Answer please ASAP.

3. You think I want to leash you to the French Empire. On the contrary, if you read Article 3 you would see that I am GRACIOUSLY LETTING SPANISH TROOPS PASS THRU FRENCH TERRITORY for no other reason than that you should get a piece of the pie if the West Med Alliance ever goes to war against external enemies! I want your nation to grow as well as mine, so we can remain good friends and allies! For example, if we fought Prussia, you would be allowed to fight as well, and keep your fair share of the booty! This is a SACRIFICE on the part of the French people, and you say I want to keep you on a leash!

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As I can see it the only reason you would NOT sign this pact is because you want to launch an Invasion in either Britain or France, BOTH OF WHOM YOU HAVE MPP WITH. Therefore, please let me know your motives ASAP.

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Also rest assured that anyone who threatens your claims in Italy will face war with France and Libya. I hope that anyone who threatens Libyan or French claims will as whole-heartedly receive the assistance of Spain.
 
OOC - Toasty, I realize that since you are in a corner, it's only a matter of time before you sneak attack the person blocking your growth. That would be either me or Libya. But rest assured that when you do you'll face the wrath of at least two more nations. Consider whether this is worth the risk, or whether you'd rather remain back to back with the Westmed Alliance and help us in war, gaining your fair share of the conquered lands.
 
To the world:

I think this is getting out of hand. My war with Sweden has totally run down the Eurpeon community, and I am extremly scared on the small amount of disturbance can throw Europe into a frenzy. To keep things nice and sweet, I am, as of now, VOIDING any agreenment with any nation, except the MPP with France and Spain. This does not mean I won't sign future agreements, or that I am agree with anyone about anything, it is to keep everything simple, and defend my nation from a world war.

To: France
From: Great Britain

By no means do we take offence of Spain's KIDDINGLY threats. Please don;t turn that into a big problem.

To: Spain and France
From: great Britain

Maybe we should form an alliance, just between our three nations, and keep it the Western Alliance. This will help balance the power of Europe.
 
Any alliance with France is an unofficial alliance with Libya, since we are MPP'd aggressively and defensively....

I don't think an alliance with Spain is such a great idea King... he'll just wait for you to turn your back and then - woosh!

OOC - Jason, people will jump on any excuse to go to war and gain land so it's not your fault.
 
To: Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte of France
Spain has NEVER signed any official agreement with France in any regard. We are in fact a fork, and your MPP proposal was never responded to by my government. We, quite simply, are not interested in an alliance with France.

And who are you to presume you should be privvy to my intentions?! Graciously allowing my right of passage through the French lands, hah! Makes me completely dependent upon you should I aquire any territories in Central Europe, and makes Spain nothing more than an extension of the French empire!

I am not a decadent man, sir Bonaparte. War with two or more nations? I think you presume that all of your allies would not possibly LEAP at the opportunity to destroy French bigotry? You've been pushing and shoving your rather large, flabby weight around the allies--Prussia, Russia, and Austria immediately would be against you. Me and England are no less than the best of friends. Libya is friendly and also has an MPP with me, and by the time I would even begin considering taking a single step across that acursed mountain range Italy and Sweden shall be long gone, despite whatever attempts you may make to back out of the war against them.

I'm well aware of your craftiness, Monsieur Bonaparte, and also well aware of your "double-crossing" of Sweden (perhaps once the dogpile on top of them came along you changed your mind, eh?). Don't presume to think I'm some unpopular old man off his rocker, and don't presume to think you're particularly well-liked, either.

If you want your peace, take it now and shut your trap. We won't be attacking anyone anytime soon and intend only on construction at home, but we certainly do not need restricted military movements by an imperialistic compulsive liar such as yourself.

I repeat: good day.

Signed,
King Ferdinand VII of Spain.

[OOC]Sorry to thrash on you like that Troq, but hey, I'm the Spanish and I'm pretty well-off, and I'd just like to remind you that I'm completely in character ;).[/OOC]

To: King William III of England
Spain is unwilling to tie herself to France. I am sorry, but we do not seek connections with them--the alliance would prove hostile and largely unwieldy with us, doing naught but putting us in a bad position with foreign powers. We cannot commit ourselves to such an alliance, though the Anglo-Spanish pact will still stand.
 
I'm now just waiting for orders from Kwansn and WarlordMatt.

The update will most likely be tomorrow night.

Nemesis
 
[OOC] Totally understood, Spain. No hard feelings :D [BIC]

Your repeated remonstrations that you don't want an alliance with me and don't even want to associate with me are nothing short of a confession of your evil intentions.

Your insolence is wearing me out, King. Don't push it.

First of all, France isn't backing out of an Italian war. We just want to end our relationship with Italy in a friendly way, even giving them a chance to save their lives by surrendering without a fight. There are 2 reasons for this: 1 (This one is OOC), Italy is coming back, since he's going to be resurrected by UKnemesis in another role, so it's best to be friendly. Number 2, I don't want French lives un-necessarily lost. OBVIOUSLY YOU AND RUSSIA DO! Both of you have protested against my proposal to Italy. Obviously, both of you want to weaken France. Well, it's not going to happen.

"Prussia, Russia, and Austria immediately would be against you."

We'll wait and see, won't we? Things may be going on that you know nothing about? Of course, if you want to test me, go ahead! :lol:

"Libya is
friendly and also has an MPP with me"

Libya is friendly and has an MPP with ME as well. And, as you well know, if he has two, he must come to the aid of the victim, the ONE BEING INVADED, or break the MPP, at least according to Uknemesis' rules.. I asked him that a few pages ago, go look for it if you doubt me.. I doubt he wants war with me, anyway, there are things going on you don't have a clue about Spain.

"also well aware of your "double-crossing" of Sweden (perhaps once the
dogpile on top of them came along you changed your mind, eh?)"

If you cast doubt upon my intentions for joining the alliance one more time, France will place a trade embargo upon you. Is that quite clear, King? We won't tolerate your insolence, and if you have something constructive to say please go ahead and say it. But if you continue to insult Napoleon, the French people will be unable to restrain their rage. It is only the wishes of our friend Libya that keep us from threatening war next time you insult us.

Good day, King.
 
To: France
From: Great Britain

You are really pushing your power of influence to the brink of your own destruction, Napoleon. I suggest your stop your hateful talks to the Spaniards. If anything should happen between your two nations, I will not hesitate to come to Spain's aid, and voiding any contract between our two nations. Protection of Spain is as important to me as protection of Britain. I suggest you lay back before something awful might happen.

To: Spain
From: Great Britain

Friend, I fear a war with France. While I have faith in the Anglo-Spanish alliance, I fear this will be a huge undertaking for our two nations. I suggest, however, we do not bring anyother nation into this war, for this war (if it happens) will be a result of too many nations in the Anglo-Swedish war. I would like to remind you, however, that under any condition, you have Britain's full support. If you wish, I will also cut ties with France as soon as you want, I would rather have a happy Spanish ally then a Warmonger French Ally.
 
To The World:

Why does everyone say Russia is blood hungry.I enter a war hoping to help my allies and instead I am spit on. Well, I cant understand it. I only critized France's plans because I felt it was backstabbing everyone. But know that I look at it,EVERYONE is about to backstab their allies. Well, the allies better get in order if we dont want another war afterthis.

To Britian:

OK, you dont want any land in Sweden? I will indly take it for you.
 
To Russia: Nay, I do want the land I have suufered for, I would (ALSO TO THE WORLD-) like the capital and province 68, as well as my own province of Denmark, the center point of all this ruffel! I believe these are subtle claims.
 
To Britian:

What? You get the capital? No, my friend, you dont. According to the plan, PRUSSIA gets the Swedish capital. Perhaps if you didnt spend so much time thinking about only Britian you would have read the plans.
 
I AM NOT A WARMONGER!

Who was it who proposed no barracks along our border, and who refused so they could sneak-attack? Who was it who proposed ROP in France, and who refused because they didn't want France to have a bonus if they were sneak-attacked?

I think you'll find, if you answer these questions, Spain is the warmonger, Britain.

CUTTING TIES WITH ME IS NOTHING ELSE BUT AN EXCUSE TO PREPARE FOR WAR AGAINST ME!

I want PEACE with both Britain and Spain, but I have more allies than you think!

I WILL UNCONDITIONALLY RECOGNIZE THESE ACTIONS AS ACTS OF WAR AGAINST FRANCE:

1. The continuing presence of British fleets in the English Channel, which breaks the DMZ agreement we signed at the beginning of the game.

2. The presence of Spanish fleets in J, or more than 3 Spanish troops each in 14 or 15.

FRANCE WILL DECLARE WAR IF THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

In return France will NEVER occupy J or D, and keep just 2 armies each in 12 and 13.

Until this happens, though, I think war is un-necessary between our nations. If you DO go to war with me, I and the rest of the world will see it as the frank admission that Spain and England are land-hungry and will use any excuse for war. And let me warn you, I DO HAVE ALLIES. Libya and I are allies, so is Austria and Russia. So, in conclusion, I hope this is an un-necessary warning and we can continue in peace.

Regardless of recent events, France WILL disband most of her armies to show she wants peace.

France will keep 2 armies each in 7, 12, 13, and 1 army each in 8, 10, 30, 32.

Rest assured though that France has a large gold reserve and can resurrect them at a turn's notice if they are needed.


In short, Peace to all Nations!
 
OOC - Spain and Britain I am NOT planning war with you, and I am not a soft target if you are planning war with me. Just letting you know. Spain, if you don't want to sign my proposal, go ahead. But if you are planning war against me, France will be prepared. In fact, I have already disbanded all armies besides those necessary to fight in Italy.

I have decided the best way to peace is to disband all my armies, and then spend the rest of the game building up a huge gold reserve. Whoever attacks me will be drowned in armies.

Therefore, look for other conquests besides France.

Peace!
 
To: France
From: Britain

I am sorry to tell you, France, that voiding an MPP with you IS SOMETHING LESS THEN A DELCARATION OF WAR. My reason is that to me, you are a warmonger, and so if you go to war, I do not want to be dragged into it!! You have got to stop thinking of only one possiblity, open your mind!! I do hope no war happens between our nations.

Do not think that in our minds you are an angle, Napoleon, because you are not. I must keep the presence of British ships in Sea's D/C so that I may protect my nation from France AND other nations as well. As you can see, the majoirty of my military IS navy, due to that my nation rests on an ISLAND. A navy better protects my nation then an army. Please, rest assured that Britain is not a nation that sneak attacks, I WILL DEFINIETLY NOT SNEAK ATTACK YOU UNTIUL WAR IS DECLARED. Take a look at the history, I did not attack Sweden until I declared war. If you can not trust my nation, then I am sorry, that is your problem. I hope you think rationally about your decisions on war, Napoleon, and until next time, I bid you farewell.

To: Russia
From: Great Britain

I believe, since this was MY war, that the capital should be British. Why should another nation, who made no military efforts so far, gain the capital of Sweden? The ownership of the capital insures me that Sweden's threats are dead, and that is what I want.
 
France accepts your words and trusts your ships in the British Channel for now. However, everyone else will remember your words as well... and they'll see how well you stick to them! :D

"I do hope no war happens between our nations. "

So do I! Good, we're agreed then.
 
To France, Spain and Britain
I can see with the recents developments between your nations that our alliance of circumstances is quite fragile. I hope you won't do anything that could bring war between our nations. Let confidence reign upon our nations.

To France and Spain
In case of war, my position is very simple. I will help the nation being attacked as the MPP's stipulate it. But I will be greatly affected by any wars between your nations and nothing good will emerge of this. I want to remind you all that the RAP threat is more dangerous than anything else. As I can see on the map, your two armies aren't in position of winning a possible war. All you could gained in it is being invaded by another nation while you are fighting.

To France :
Dear Napoleon. We signed a MPP not an alliance. You can count on me to help you against any aggression but you can't count on me for any offensive wars !! Especially against Spain and Britain !! I trust your good intents for Western europe (despite the double-crossed alliance with Sweden) but don't push your luck too far.
I think too that the treaty you proposed to Spain is too restrictive. With this treaty signed by the King Ferdinand, Spain won't have anymore territories to implant barracks or factories. This will reduce drastically Spain's power. I don't want a weak Spain but a strong Spain to counter any RAP threat. And this threat is especially in Europe. That's why Spain and me decided to demilitarize North Africa. Whith this treaty signed, Spain and Lybia can strongly garrison Europe in case of RAP invasion. I hope you can understand my position. Be confident in Spain and let her build factories and barracks in her homeland. It is also for your own safety and for western Europe's safety. You must defuse this escalation dear friend. You should also lower you tone upon you allies. I know that France geographical position in Europe isn't enviable because of the many nations you have borders with, but your mefiance is too high. Especially toward Britain and Spain.

To Spain :
Lybia's gladly thanks Spain for taking this courageous decision. This treaty will benefit to each of our nation and will reinforce our already strong friendship.
You have my words that Lybia won't interfere with Spain's plan for Italy.
I hope that you will do your best too to defuse the escalation with France.

To Britain :
I ask you too to make all the things you can to defuse this escalation with France. A war will not benefit to western Europe and could see the RAP taking this great opportunity ro invade France and me.

To Austria :
Dear Emperor, I hope you will be wise enough to let the province 31, as the french plan tell it, to Lybia.
 
To Italy
I will adopt the same position as Russia. I won't do peace with you until a common position is adopted by the allies.
 
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