Kennelly
Starfleet Admiral
The Sioux will make peace with the USA and sign the NAU if they give up all provinces except their capital 20 and completely demilitarize.
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uknemesis
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Right, you new American guys, keep your posts to the point. Any more off topic posts(or one sentence posts) will result in me putting a limit on how much people can post per day.
Slightly off topic one liners are allowed for amusement(I do it all the time), but they must be rare. And when it comes to actual diplomacy, act in character! Also, once you've said yes to something, there is no need to go on and on about it!
Sorry to be harsh, but you guys are going way over the top. This NES needs to be more story driven. I know it's a game and not a story, but still just normal diplomacy can create a good story, so long as it is in character. Some of the rubbish excuses I've been reading are obviously just attempts to increase your land gains, not increase the fun.
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Blackbeard nodded at his first mate.
"While the landlubbers tear themselves apart in a huge war, we will strike them hard." he spoke finally.
The war was perfect for him. Everyone would send all their troops to attack, leaving provinces undefended, or weak.
His troops could raid town halls, destroy them, and take the 2 gold extra from them for that turn. He may even be able to hold onto provinces.
He sighed, dreaming of the riches he would gain from this war.
Nemesis
Slightly off topic one liners are allowed for amusement(I do it all the time), but they must be rare. And when it comes to actual diplomacy, act in character! Also, once you've said yes to something, there is no need to go on and on about it!
Sorry to be harsh, but you guys are going way over the top. This NES needs to be more story driven. I know it's a game and not a story, but still just normal diplomacy can create a good story, so long as it is in character. Some of the rubbish excuses I've been reading are obviously just attempts to increase your land gains, not increase the fun.
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Blackbeard nodded at his first mate.
"While the landlubbers tear themselves apart in a huge war, we will strike them hard." he spoke finally.
The war was perfect for him. Everyone would send all their troops to attack, leaving provinces undefended, or weak.
His troops could raid town halls, destroy them, and take the 2 gold extra from them for that turn. He may even be able to hold onto provinces.
He sighed, dreaming of the riches he would gain from this war.
Nemesis
).Kennelly
Starfleet Admiral
[OOC uknemesis,if you accuse us of destroying the fun in the game by seeking to destroy certain players we have to defend.And if you now put a limit on my posts per day do it.UKNES and UKNES 2 have been such a great success because you rolled dices and not decided by a secret system like in 'A Never-Ending story' or 'A simple and regulated NES' which always favored the defender.I think this NES has created a good story so far and I surely don't want to destroy it. OOC]
To:American nations except USA
From:Sioux
Friendly natives have told me of new pirate activity but we couln't bring to surface where their new base is.When the war against USA is over we will surely have to cope with them.
To:American nations except USA
From:Sioux
Friendly natives have told me of new pirate activity but we couln't bring to surface where their new base is.When the war against USA is over we will surely have to cope with them.
Revolutionairy
President for life
Speech to Canadian Army Leaders
"Due to international pressure and threat from Blackbeard no troops shall no longer attack amercian holdings, instead I call for a NAU to be signed so that the powers that be(UK) will be satisfed with the peace.
Also let the USA walk away without harm, I will recall my invasion and treat an attack on the USA as an attack on me!
Instead of forceabley taking 14 and 15 we would like to spend our money on mabye buying one of the lands but this is totally up to the USA"
OOC I hope that puts your fears to rest uknemesis
"Due to international pressure and threat from Blackbeard no troops shall no longer attack amercian holdings, instead I call for a NAU to be signed so that the powers that be(UK) will be satisfed with the peace.
Also let the USA walk away without harm, I will recall my invasion and treat an attack on the USA as an attack on me!
Instead of forceabley taking 14 and 15 we would like to spend our money on mabye buying one of the lands but this is totally up to the USA"
OOC I hope that puts your fears to rest uknemesis
uknemesis
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Guys, I didn't mean make huge changes to your alliances etc, I just meant if you go to war, set objectives, not ones of "destroy that nation".
Kennelly, I do not think war is bad, I just think you should have attainable objectives(ie; take that province cause it gives me an area to make a port near the Atlantic). Not ones of just "destroy that nation cause my people say they don't like them".
Anyway, you are right that I favour defence, because historically when a nation is fighting for survival, they fight like mad.
Forts will not be introduced, nor will I limit the number of posts(Kennelly, you weren't the main one I was talking to).
All I mean is that this NES must be fun for everyone, and if that does mean that in a justified war a nation is destroyed, so be it. That doesn't mean you go attacking nations for the hell of it. There has to be a reason, and then a solution.
The best example is the European war. Sweden claimed Denmark, but Britain took it. Sweden went to war, determined to take back Denmark then have peace. They couldn't take it back, and eventually signed a peace treaty. Unfortunately, Italy backed her ally, and was destroyed because of it(although I still think the Europeans should have been more lenient with Italy).
And to WarlordMatt, for God's sake get yourself some allies on the American continent! Your lack of diplomacy is what made you an easy target! Nations in history would attack a weak enemy if they could, and I can't keep stopping them!
Nemesis
Kennelly, I do not think war is bad, I just think you should have attainable objectives(ie; take that province cause it gives me an area to make a port near the Atlantic). Not ones of just "destroy that nation cause my people say they don't like them".
Anyway, you are right that I favour defence, because historically when a nation is fighting for survival, they fight like mad.
Forts will not be introduced, nor will I limit the number of posts(Kennelly, you weren't the main one I was talking to).
All I mean is that this NES must be fun for everyone, and if that does mean that in a justified war a nation is destroyed, so be it. That doesn't mean you go attacking nations for the hell of it. There has to be a reason, and then a solution.
The best example is the European war. Sweden claimed Denmark, but Britain took it. Sweden went to war, determined to take back Denmark then have peace. They couldn't take it back, and eventually signed a peace treaty. Unfortunately, Italy backed her ally, and was destroyed because of it(although I still think the Europeans should have been more lenient with Italy).
And to WarlordMatt, for God's sake get yourself some allies on the American continent! Your lack of diplomacy is what made you an easy target! Nations in history would attack a weak enemy if they could, and I can't keep stopping them!
Nemesis
To the world ;
Rome has finally fallen and the General who led this rebellion against Lybia is dead. Because of the possible new rebellions who can grow in Italy, especially in Rome, I decrete martial law in annexed lands. During this time, all opposition to Lybia's califat will be punished promptly; By jail or even death executions for the rebellion's head. I don't want to go this far but I don't want to see another Italian's leader taking the control of Rome. This martial will be suspended if no major incidents is noted during 1 year. Six armies will stay in Italy to institute it.
But as I said a few monthes before, the Vatican will remain independent.
Lybia will now use his gold reserve to reinforce the government presence in the North Africans provinces and to invest in redressing her hurted-economy.
To the RAP :
I hope that we can now leave peacefully and rebuild Europe on a more strong and peaceful base. I will leave only four armies in province 31 especially for defense and because of the martial law instituted. Lybia has suffered very much of this war and don't more. I also urge Prussia to give a reason for this huge army near the french border and urge her to disband it.
To France :
Dear Emperor
I don't think Prussia wants war with you. Please, disband some this huge army at Prussia's border, I'm sure Prussia will see this a sign of peace between your nations.
Rome has finally fallen and the General who led this rebellion against Lybia is dead. Because of the possible new rebellions who can grow in Italy, especially in Rome, I decrete martial law in annexed lands. During this time, all opposition to Lybia's califat will be punished promptly; By jail or even death executions for the rebellion's head. I don't want to go this far but I don't want to see another Italian's leader taking the control of Rome. This martial will be suspended if no major incidents is noted during 1 year. Six armies will stay in Italy to institute it.
But as I said a few monthes before, the Vatican will remain independent.
Lybia will now use his gold reserve to reinforce the government presence in the North Africans provinces and to invest in redressing her hurted-economy.
To the RAP :
I hope that we can now leave peacefully and rebuild Europe on a more strong and peaceful base. I will leave only four armies in province 31 especially for defense and because of the martial law instituted. Lybia has suffered very much of this war and don't more. I also urge Prussia to give a reason for this huge army near the french border and urge her to disband it.
To France :
Dear Emperor
I don't think Prussia wants war with you. Please, disband some this huge army at Prussia's border, I'm sure Prussia will see this a sign of peace between your nations.
uknemesis
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Right, I still need orders in from Troquelet(but I know about him, so not too worried if he forgot to send me those orders the next morning), Das, Poto(if he's back), .:KNAS:.(but I know about him), and WarlordMatt. If they haven't moved by tomorrow night, I will move for them.
Nemesis
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Jason The King
Deity
King William's speach to the English People
"... And that is why we must help our American friends. Most of the people on the American continent are either decedants from our people, our France's; but that dosn't even mean anything, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE, and people die in war. A war over territory grab for no reason is a war that goes no where, and a war that splits nations. The Americans are going through the sam tragedy we have recently gone through, except one huge detail, they hold NO allies. We cannot let a nation be destroyed over the same aspects we were at war, and not help...."
"... And that is why we must help our American friends. Most of the people on the American continent are either decedants from our people, our France's; but that dosn't even mean anything, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE, and people die in war. A war over territory grab for no reason is a war that goes no where, and a war that splits nations. The Americans are going through the sam tragedy we have recently gone through, except one huge detail, they hold NO allies. We cannot let a nation be destroyed over the same aspects we were at war, and not help...."
AnarchyRulz
Endless Bummer
The Russian Plan to stop The Great American War:
Several nations must work together. I propose landing armies in the United States to defend and liberate that great nation:
Here is the plan:
Britian uses its many fleets to float over a Russian/??? army, while using other ships to defend it.
If the American nations decide not to end the war, we land.
ALL land shall be returned to its owner.
Several nations must work together. I propose landing armies in the United States to defend and liberate that great nation:
Here is the plan:
Britian uses its many fleets to float over a Russian/??? army, while using other ships to defend it.
If the American nations decide not to end the war, we land.
ALL land shall be returned to its owner.
ooc: now I kinda know what It feels like to be a small country invaded by the US.
Ic:
To European powers
I plan on taking territory 8 from the USA, we had private talks going debating who would take ownership of it when they just took it. and I must point out the fact that they put a barracks in it, which is an agressive move towards me.
I will also allow them to pay me for not invading thier entire country. 5 gold is reasonable to me, seeings how had I invaded they would cease to exist.
Ic:
To European powers
I plan on taking territory 8 from the USA, we had private talks going debating who would take ownership of it when they just took it. and I must point out the fact that they put a barracks in it, which is an agressive move towards me.
I will also allow them to pay me for not invading thier entire country. 5 gold is reasonable to me, seeings how had I invaded they would cease to exist.
Revolutionairy
President for life
From Candia
To Russia
With all resecpt STAY IN EUROPE ! ! ! The war has been stopped by me and I will make sure that the USA is unharmed.
From Candia
To Amercian's
The Russian's want to start a war with all of us and turn Amercia into a battlefied. We must ALL sign the NAU and stop your invasion of the USA. Take your troops instead to the coast and bulid fleets. I not consider myself at war with russia but any Russian armies on English fleets or not WILL BE SUNK ! !
To Russia
With all resecpt STAY IN EUROPE ! ! ! The war has been stopped by me and I will make sure that the USA is unharmed.
From Candia
To Amercian's
The Russian's want to start a war with all of us and turn Amercia into a battlefied. We must ALL sign the NAU and stop your invasion of the USA. Take your troops instead to the coast and bulid fleets. I not consider myself at war with russia but any Russian armies on English fleets or not WILL BE SUNK ! !
Revolutionairy
President for life
From Candia
To Britain
Surley you can see we are men of peace and that our new govement is oposed to war. We should sign NAP. This would inculde a clause saying no russian troops may be allowed on your fleets with the purpose of invading Amercia
To Britain
Surley you can see we are men of peace and that our new govement is oposed to war. We should sign NAP. This would inculde a clause saying no russian troops may be allowed on your fleets with the purpose of invading Amercia
AnarchyRulz
Endless Bummer
To Candia(canada....)
We dont want to turn America into a battlefield. Quite the oppisite. If you read my speech clearly I say
"I propose landing armies in the United States to defend and liberate that great nation"
AND
"ALL land shall be returned to its owner."
Is liberating a country that did nothing wrong a crime? Certainly not. Did I not say return all the land? No, my Canadian friend, I want to preserve a great nation, not destroy a continent.
We dont want to turn America into a battlefield. Quite the oppisite. If you read my speech clearly I say
"I propose landing armies in the United States to defend and liberate that great nation"
AND
"ALL land shall be returned to its owner."
Is liberating a country that did nothing wrong a crime? Certainly not. Did I not say return all the land? No, my Canadian friend, I want to preserve a great nation, not destroy a continent.
To Canada: after I take whats rightfully mine I will send ships to assist in a blockade of your country from Europe.
To Europe: If you land troops in America I can assure you that as soon as they leave we will crush the USA underfoot. However if you keep out we will not obliterate them.
To Europe: If you land troops in America I can assure you that as soon as they leave we will crush the USA underfoot. However if you keep out we will not obliterate them.
Revolutionairy
President for life
Only take the 1 land which offended you and once you have it you must give the USA a chance to buy it back. Do you sign the NAU? its needed
I will NOT sell it back to them, it is MY land. THEY will pay me for not destorying them.
I will sign the NAU as soon as Im done with what Im doing, and we have USA's promise to join as well.
p.s. If they will not make peace after I capture territory 8 than I will continue to take land, 1 territory a turn. the extra land may be bought back from me once they make peace.
I will sign the NAU as soon as Im done with what Im doing, and we have USA's promise to join as well.
p.s. If they will not make peace after I capture territory 8 than I will continue to take land, 1 territory a turn. the extra land may be bought back from me once they make peace.
