unhappy citizens don't eat when producing settler/worker

[DaviddesJ]

I discovered a new bug (new to me, anyway). If you are building a worker or settler, then unhappy people don't consume any food.

E.g., suppose your city is size 6, with 4 happy people and 2 unhappy people, and suppose the 4 happy people are working tiles (plus the city center) that generate 16 food and 6 hammers. Then, you have a food surplus of 16-12 = 4 (assuming no unhealth), so, if you're building a settler, you should get +10 hpt (4f 6h). But you actually get +14 hpt (8f 6h); the food required to feed the two unhappy people is not counted against you.

(This is in 1.61; I haven't tried it in Warlords.)

 

[Lexad]

Unhealthiness is ignored too. Great you noticed, thanx!

 

[alexman]

This is actually by design.

 

[DaviddesJ]

This is actually by design.

??? How odd. Why would happy citizens consume 2 food each, but unhappy citizens consume 0, only when building a settler?

I don't think it's a problem. It's just counterintuitive.

 

[Qwack]

Definately sounds like a bug. I cant think of any logical reason why this would be by design.

 

[DaviddesJ]

Alexman made the game, so if he says he did it that way on purpose, I have to believe him.

 

[angeleyes]

This is actually by design.

If you know this, i'm very curious what's the idea behind it.

 

[alexman]

One way of keeping your cities under the happiness/health level is to have them produce Settlers and Workers. But if you forget to check the happiness/health level of your city before it goes bad, you would be penalized by producing Settlers/Workers slower. That would have been a big penalty for a small oversight, and it would encourage micromanagement.

If you want a realism argument, just say that unhappy citizens work harder to get out and found their own city.

 

[Lexad]

That's rich/ Well, thanx for clearing out. I wonder this was never said explicitly so we would stop worrying about MMing settler/worker production. And still, the unhappy people do not get out of the city in the end, those poor befooled drags

 

[angeleyes]

The realistic argument would make sense in civ3, not in civ4. A clear solution could be never angry citizens (or 1 or 2 less) when making settler/worker, or a big bonus if you whip your settler/worker (every angry citizen gives you double whip-bonus when making settler/worker).