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Unique Unit Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Sparthage, May 25, 2011.

  1. lordsurya08

    lordsurya08 class-A procrastinator

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    You subtracted four from Janissary - it's -2. Fixed for ya! (BTW, this isn't about the civ, it's about the UUs. )
     
  2. Kevin J

    Kevin J Hewer of Wood

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    Fixed my post - and it should be 32, not 31 - was 34 in Redrover's post. Somehow 2=4=5. It's the new math! And yeah, it's about the unit, not the civ ... but I don't like late UUs. And Janissaries have nothing to fear from my one measly vote - they appear to be the runaway winner!
     
  3. lordsurya08

    lordsurya08 class-A procrastinator

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    -Hoplite 7 ................. -1
    -Panzer 3
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 23
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 25
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 32 .............. +1
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17
     
  4. vexing

    vexing knows

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    3 hours is not quite 24 hours lords. one vote per day.
     
  5. Randall Turner

    Randall Turner King

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    I can't believe the B-17 went out so soon. Two superb free upgrades on the second-strongest late-game unit that then upgrades to the first strongest? Guys, it's the Samurai factor - 30 experience points === double-siege, evasion, and x2 attacks per turn. <sigh>

    The two Knight-based upgrades. Already been over this, Mandekalu and Naresan's are pretty close, but the clincher is that upgraded-Mandekalu's maintain their bonus, giving you tanks that can stomp cities.

    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 3
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 25
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 32
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17

    Edit: note that someone (coughGearcough) accidentally removed Mandy's from the list for a while, their last value was 23 before my bump.
     
  6. DirtyDirtyDirt

    DirtyDirtyDirt Chieftain

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    Hoplite 5 -Panzer 3
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 23
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 32
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17
     
  7. MadDjinn

    MadDjinn Deity

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    Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 3
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 31
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17

    fixed due to extra vote by lord
     
  8. Lyoncet

    Lyoncet Emperor

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    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 23
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 32
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17
     
  9. MadDjinn

    MadDjinn Deity

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    Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 21
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 28
    -Janissary 33
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17

    fixed due to extra vote by lord

    ok, caught up to lyoncet
     
  10. Lyoncet

    Lyoncet Emperor

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    Sorry, I thought I took your fix into account in my score sheet. Oh well; thanks for fixing it. :goodjob:
     
  11. Randall Turner

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    You could probably say "once per 24 hour period" is legal. It's hard to time your vote with when you get on the computer every day. No biggy. Two hours early != four times a day.
     
  12. MadDjinn

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    you did, except part way through I realized that Randall had put the Mandu cav back in and I had used a prior post for the list, so I had to readjust based upon his numbers.
     
  13. NicTeos

    NicTeos Warlord

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    Continue MadDjinn #129,
    my last vote 25.5. : 7:05 P.M , #49

    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 22 ( + 1 )
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 26 ( -2 )
    -Janissary 33
    -Sipahi 16
    -Musketeer 17

    B 17, Panzer are coming late, but are strong UU's and would have seen B 17 middle tier as the panzer. Panzer will probably die, but jaguar and mohawk warrior , ballista I would see worse. However I can't think Samurai is a #2 UU, there base Unit is awesome, they are cool, they can have faster march + blitz, but not #2. Foreign Legion is the unit which I see better than somewhere in the middle at the moment...

    edit : and maybe sparthage correct the values ... I'm little bit confused at the moment ...
     
  14. cccv

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    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 23
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 22
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 26
    -Samurai 26
    -Janissary 34 +1
    -Sipahi 14 -2
    -Musketeer 17

    PS-- do legions get a strength bonus that I'm not remembering? Because I can't imagine why else they'd be getting positive votes rather than being amongst the first gone.
     
  15. Sparthage

    Sparthage Fighting Tyranny

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    Legions do get a strength bonus. Though the Hoplite's increase is greater, they upgrade to less useful units.
     
  16. vexing

    vexing knows

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    legion are 13 base instead of 11 (and can build roads). they destroy early cities.
    hoplites are 9 instead of 7... on the plus side your initial warrior can become a hoplite or immortal via ruin, which is always nice.
     
  17. jojorah

    jojorah Prince

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    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 21
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 24
    -Mohawk warrior 19
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 22
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 27
    -Samurai 26
    -Janissary 34 +1
    -Sipahi 14 -2
    -Musketeer 17
     
  18. Watiggi

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    Maybe it would be easier if posters just said what they deduct and what they add too and leave it up to the OP to tally it up rather than every individual keep track of it.

    So, don't post the whole thing up and then show your additions / subtractions with the newly adjusted total. Instead, just make a post like: -2 Musketeer, +1Chu-Ko-Nu. Then let the OP sum it all up and update the original post.

    (dont include my example in the results).
     
  19. Resident Mario

    Resident Mario Warlord

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    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 21
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 25 (+1)
    -Mohawk Warrior 17 (-2)
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 22
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 27
    -Samurai 26
    -Janissary 34
    -Sipahi 14
    -Musketeer 17

    Played a game with the Songhai recently. Love their UU, lets you have a fast moving city-attacking line with high-up strength instead of a slower Longsword formation. That game, I literally did not lose a single unit until the second to last turn, because if they got too beat up I just ran them away.

    On the other hand, the Mohawk Warrior UA is pfft. Yeah, they get Woodsman, but who cares? Forests are really situational. I'd much rather have a UU that can hold its own regardless of terrain. Legions would roll Mohawks 80% of the time.
     
  20. HarryLime

    HarryLime Chieftain

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    -Hoplite 7
    -Panzer 1
    -Landsknecht 12
    -Ballista 16
    -Ship of the line 15
    -Companion cavalry 17
    -Minutemen 17
    -Camel archer 21
    -War elephant 21
    -Mandekalu Cavalry 26
    -Mohawk Warrior 17
    -Cossack 23
    -Immortal 23
    -Legion 24
    -Foreign Legion 22
    -Jaguar warrior 21
    -Longbowman 25
    -Naresuan elephant 21
    -Chu-Ko-Nu 27
    -Samurai 26
    -Janissary 34
    -Sipahi 14
    -Musketeer 15
     

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