Unit Concept Development/Preview: African Pikeman
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Made a few changes to the model(first post), more civ-colour has been added, and some white to the headpiece, and foot "protectors"
Mr. Will
Mister
Is it just me, or is the pikehead a bit big?
But other than that, you're putting my models to shame. Great job.
But other than that, you're putting my models to shame. Great job.
Dease
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The whole pike is larger than it should be this is so that it's noticable in civsize, although the the end could be a bit smaller. I think I'll start animating tomorrow since I've done next to nothing today (only colour changes)
@Sog - for the fortify animation all the firaxian units go into an "attack" stance, so i dunno if I'll do your suggestion or not, ill have to think about it although it will definatley be the stance for the civiliopedia
@Sog - for the fortify animation all the firaxian units go into an "attack" stance, so i dunno if I'll do your suggestion or not, ill have to think about it although it will definatley be the stance for the civiliopedia
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
I agree about the spear, it should be just a little bit thinner but still thick enough that it shows up at civ-scale.
That is so awesome. It looks almost exactly like the drawing 
I wish I had that kind of talent Ive tried using just about every free modeling program out there and failed miserably. 
jobiwan7
Jedi Scholar
Dease said:For the fortify animation all the firaxian units go into an "attack" stance, so i dunno if I'll do your suggestion or not, ill have to think about it although it will definatley be the stance for the civiliopedia
A possible solution for this is to have two attacks:
AttackA----Attacks from Fortify animation
AttackB----Attacks like normal Spearman or Pikeman
Also, will he have a one or two-handed attack?
Goldflash
Civ III Modder, Civ VII Player
You really ought to lengthen his Pike. It is really too short. Otherwise, he looks nice,
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Ya, know, the one suggestions, the longer the unit will take to come out....
I'm glad you like my idea for the Civilipedia picture Dease!
I'm glad you like my idea for the Civilipedia picture Dease!
Dease
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Pike lengthened.
I'm almost ready to animate, only some minor errors in the skeleton have to be fixed.
However, I need to know how you all think he should hold the pike. I've attached an image of the three main possibilities in my mind.
starting from the left -
1. holds it by his side, uses only one arm to hold the pike at all times. much like the regular impi
2. That stance is for the run, the attack would have two hands holding the pike. Identical to the normal pikeman.
3. that stance is for the run, holds it across his body. both hads would always be on the pike the attack would be simmilar to the normal pikeman,. although the run would be unique.
I'm almost ready to animate, only some minor errors in the skeleton have to be fixed.
However, I need to know how you all think he should hold the pike. I've attached an image of the three main possibilities in my mind.
starting from the left -
1. holds it by his side, uses only one arm to hold the pike at all times. much like the regular impi
2. That stance is for the run, the attack would have two hands holding the pike. Identical to the normal pikeman.
3. that stance is for the run, holds it across his body. both hads would always be on the pike the attack would be simmilar to the normal pikeman,. although the run would be unique.
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Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Middle.... at least for the default anim and run anim.
The pike is considerably larger than the Impi's weapon and therefore much heavier. It should at least be in both hands or propped against his shoulder.
The third preview just looks a little weird. If he's going to hold it sideways, it should be on an angle sort of. Kind of cradling it a bit more. But even then, I still like the middle better.
The pike is considerably larger than the Impi's weapon and therefore much heavier. It should at least be in both hands or propped against his shoulder.
The third preview just looks a little weird. If he's going to hold it sideways, it should be on an angle sort of. Kind of cradling it a bit more. But even then, I still like the middle better.
Dease
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Interesting. the only thing I don't like about #2 is that it's identical to the firaxian animations, also if you look really close to the fortify anim for the pikeman in flicster then you notice that the hand holding the pike is actually going backwards to hold the pike farther back. All this while the other had is coming over to grab it.
So I'm really not sure what I'll do. I'll jsut wait for more input I suppose
So I'm really not sure what I'll do. I'll jsut wait for more input I suppose
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Then I suggest going for the holding in both hands but tilted up to give greater support.
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spirithiker
Chieftain
Dease, this is one of the best looking units out there! It good to see someone working on African units, more are sorely needed. Keep up the great work.
Kal-el
Deity
back from vacation and off to bootcamp on Monday. glad I logged on and saw this. Just a couple of points.
5, 10 and the leg bands should be civ colored. Gold bands around the legs wouldn't really work.
3 and 4 and the band at the top of the gauntlets should be white fur.
other than that it looks great.
see you later. got a lot of last minute drinking to do before I leave.
Kal
5, 10 and the leg bands should be civ colored. Gold bands around the legs wouldn't really work.
3 and 4 and the band at the top of the gauntlets should be white fur.
other than that it looks great.
see you later. got a lot of last minute drinking to do before I leave.
Kal
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Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
You could have him twirl the Pike over his head.
This unit looks great! Badly needed African Units are always a welcome sight.(Did I say that before)
Strange how Aaglo disapeared when Dom Pedro came back, plus great new unit creators Muffins and Dease appear on the scene.
This unit looks great! Badly needed African Units are always a welcome sight.(Did I say that before)
Strange how Aaglo disapeared when Dom Pedro came back, plus great new unit creators Muffins and Dease appear on the scene.
Dease
Be Original
Thanks SoG
I don't think I'll have him twirl the pike around because 1. that would take days to do and would be infinitley frustrating. and 2. If the pike is heavy enough to warrant carrying it with two hands it would be almost too heavy to spin it around over his head
I was thinking and I came up with this -
takes the pike stabs it into the ground, bends over, brushes his feet, returns to the original stance.
what do you think?
I don't think I'll have him twirl the pike around because 1. that would take days to do and would be infinitley frustrating. and 2. If the pike is heavy enough to warrant carrying it with two hands it would be almost too heavy to spin it around over his head
I was thinking and I came up with this -
takes the pike stabs it into the ground, bends over, brushes his feet, returns to the original stance.
what do you think?
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Thats a good one two. You could also make a simpliar fidget, like he moves his head and yawns or something. Honestly, I was thinking of FF7's Cloud when I posted that last fidget idea....go figure
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