Unofficial BTS 3.13 patch
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Minor Annoyance
Deity
Forrest does spread to roads.
ChickenSalad
Chieftain
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Doh! It does?! Thanks for enlightining me. 
Alright then, move on folks, nothing to see here ... except:
Thanks again Bhruic, great work!
Alright then, move on folks, nothing to see here ... except:
Thanks again Bhruic, great work!
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
:scurries in before moving along to say:
it does, but roads cut the chance in half. jungle follows the same spreading rules, which is why i put roads on tiles nanas/gems/hills next to jungle before i have ironworking.
it does, but roads cut the chance in half. jungle follows the same spreading rules, which is why i put roads on tiles nanas/gems/hills next to jungle before i have ironworking.
Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
Granted this is bug is specific to the Celts (and may be functioning as designed): Gaelic Warriors upgraded to Macemen are no longer eligible for the Guerilla II promotion..
They ought to be: The still have Guerilla I, and Guerilla II is (according to the promo xml) available to melee units.
I am using BTS 3.13 and the unofficial patch. Any ideas?
Thanks.
They ought to be: The still have Guerilla I, and Guerilla II is (according to the promo xml) available to melee units.
I am using BTS 3.13 and the unofficial patch. Any ideas?
Thanks.
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
Thyrwyn, i think it's more that the promo xml has to include Guerilla II is available to melee because of gaelic warriors, but it doesn't apply for any other melee units.
one of the changes in the optional part of Bhruic's mod (the one that put back the glance screen) is "Civilopedia promotions no longer display a unit class if only a subsection of that class can get the promotion" and i'm pretty sure gaelic warriors are the exact reason (or one of them) that change was made. he took it out of the pedia, altho it's not exactly a bug (so it's not in the "real" patch), because it's quite confusing. not just to you, trust me
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one of the changes in the optional part of Bhruic's mod (the one that put back the glance screen) is "Civilopedia promotions no longer display a unit class if only a subsection of that class can get the promotion" and i'm pretty sure gaelic warriors are the exact reason (or one of them) that change was made. he took it out of the pedia, altho it's not exactly a bug (so it's not in the "real" patch), because it's quite confusing. not just to you, trust me
.Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
I was not referring to the 'pedia. My understanding of the intent of the change was to make any melee unit which had Guerilla I eligible for Guerilla II & III.
I was pretty sure it used to play that way (though I may be mis-remembering. . .).
I was pretty sure it used to play that way (though I may be mis-remembering. . .).
Silbeg
Wise @$$ Loud Mouth
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In case this hasn't been asked before... how do you do this?
grumbler
Prince
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
oh i see. i knew you weren't referring to the pedia, but it takes all its info from the .xml. i checked warlords tho, and it does let macemen that have guerilla1 from being gallic warriors as babies promote to guerilla2. i'd thought they weren't, that they had to do it while they were still GWs. i wasn't brennus often and cba to change the cd, so i checked on hubby's pc. he may have changed it, the date on the units xml is later than the rest of 'em, so i dunno for sure 
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jkp1187
Unindicted Co-Conspirator
Hey -- what happened with the whole stealth destroyers not acting as escorts issue that was brought up a few weeks ago. Was there a fix made for this or not? (I assume not, as I didn't see anything about it on the changelog.) I haven't been following this thread as religiously as I should after I got sucked into my own mod projects...
Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
Thanks, Bursk
where exactly did you put the supplemental files?
dragomaster
Warlord
my game crash after i chosed civ, map, etc... during it load the map.
can I use the patch?
can I use the patch?
Minor Annoyance
Deity
I had a problem like that before. Are you now, or have you in the past used a graphics mod?
Aquatic
Child of Surprises
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@ Maben
Bhruic explained a way that works also in MP at post 30 in http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=245988&page=2
Nonetheless, it is worth noting that if you do this, you will probably find that in MP every time you start a game others receive a warning that you have a modded version of the game. If you play with anyone you don't know (online for instance), this may cause a problem! Other than that, it works a treat.
Bhruic explained a way that works also in MP at post 30 in http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=245988&page=2
Nonetheless, it is worth noting that if you do this, you will probably find that in MP every time you start a game others receive a warning that you have a modded version of the game. If you play with anyone you don't know (online for instance), this may cause a problem! Other than that, it works a treat.
ChickenSalad
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I'd like to second that and extend it to a call for fixing seabattles in general.
The two current misconceptions:
a) stealth units don't defend, unless they're visible to the attacker
b) empty units defend, even if they're not the strongest unit in the stack
This leads to:
a) stealth vessels' usefulness being greatly reduced
b) missiles on missile cruisers threatening the missile cruisers defense cappabilities
As I wrote here:
What's a strong ship in a convoy good for, if it won't defend it's convoy?
If I don't want my stealth ships to fight unless I use them for attacks (or they get spotted), I'll simply not put them on the convoy tile or in the convoy stack/group. Besides the power stealth brings is that the stealth unit has the element of surprise. So the enemy thinks he's attacking an unprotected transport convoy only to find himself ship to ship with a bunch of destroyers and subs.
Imo the best logic for chosing defenders in sea battles would be:
a) Strongest ship defends, be it stealth or not, loaded or empty.
b) If an empty and a loaded ship tie strength-wise, then the empty ship is chosen.
