Utah Raptor vs Grizzly Bear

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In a fight to the death between a Utah Raptor and Grizzly bear(they are about the same size), who would you put your money on?

Brainy Dinosaur vs Brainy mammal. Overwhelming strength vs razor like claws.
 
Can I safely assume that speed and agility go to the dinosaur in this match? I know bears can reach a decent speed on a flat run, but I am guessing the bird to be outdoes it?

My guess. Dino has mammal steaks for dinner.
 
Grizzly bear, cause the Utah raptor is already dead.

In the case of time travel or cloning, grizzlybear also wins. The raptor has tiny hands while the grizzly has the right to bear arms.
 
Well, apart from it being extinct, if I have it right from Wiki, this Utahraptor would really only have significant weaponry and strength in the hind legs. So I'd go with the bear just on all round equipment. Still, if you want to set up the contest for real, let me know and I'll come and watch.

And what's the evidence for the Utahraptor's intelligence?
 
Bear's can swim, are better in rough terrain, and can climb. They are also omnivores and more temperature resistant. Could be useful.
 
And what's the evidence for the Utahraptor's intelligence?
It's a trope. Dromaeosaurs are widely regarded as pack hunters, due to the discovery of groups of Deinonychus fossils in extreme close proximity to that of a Tenontosaurus. This was perpetuated by the Jurassic Park films, which depicted "Velociraptors" as extremely intelligent, adaptable stalkers who operated both in packs and individually.

Further analysis has significantly muddied the waters. About five years ago, an article came out that hypothesized that Deinonychus may not have operated in packs, but could simply have been congregating around an extant kill, like Komodo dragons sometimes do. There's some evidence at these sites of some of the dromaeosaurs having eaten others, which is not usually indicative of pack cohesion and hunting. Still, there's clearly not enough evidence to say one way or the other.
 
Well, lets examine how each predator is assumed to attack.

From what we know of a raptor it is assumed that it is a pack animal, and that it uses its numbers to attack and bring down larger creatures with its speed and vicious rending claws. But bear in mind that the raptors claws are designed for the animal to grasp their prey and hold it while rending with their rear claws, much like a cat would do in a fight.

Bears are apex predators, and solo hunters/scavengers. They are also more fast and nimble than people expect because of their size. Their overwhelming strength enables them to crush the bones of their prey often disabling them in one swipe or bite.

This being the case, in a one on one faceoff, I would expect it to go down like this:

Raptor circles bear looking for an opening. Upon finding one, Raptor rushes in and attempts to grapple bear in order to begin rending it with its rear claws. Bear meets rush head on, and its weight and strength surprises and overwhelms the raptor turning its own rush back upon itself. The raptor is able to get a few swipes with its massive claw, but once the bear has the raptor in its grasp its essentially over. There wont be any escape.

The only real concern would be if the raptors claws could somehow penetrate the bears thick skin and possibly eviscarate the bear before the bear kills it. I dont see this stopping the bear from killing the raptor for the simple reason it takes a huge strong animal lilke that a long while to die that way, but it could happen.

I'd put it 90-10 in the bears favor.
 
There's no evidence that Utahraptor was a pack hunter whatsoever. The only evidence in favor of pack hunting has to do with Deinonychus. There is also a set of large dromaeosaur footprints from China that seems to be a group of six animals walking in single file, but that doesn't really imply pack hunting necessarily, and would not be indicative of Utahraptor behavior (since Utahraptor fossils have only been found in western North America).

It's hard to imagine a large animal like the Utahraptor operating in a pack, simply because of the sheer number of kills such a pack would need to make to sustain all of the animals in it.
 
There's no evidence that Utahraptor was a pack hunter whatsoever. The only evidence in favor of pack hunting has to do with Deinonychus.

Hence why a lot of websites say it 'may have' hunted in packs due to its relationship with Deinonychus.

It's hard to imagine a large animal like the Utahraptor operating in a pack, simply because of the sheer number of kills such a pack would need to make to sustain all of the animals in it.

Oh come on. Considering the size of many of the prey animals of the time, its not all that hard to imagine.
 
Look, you guys need to trust me on this. The dinosaur wins. Also, 2013 is the Year of the Royals, and the Republicans are going to sweep Congress in 2006.

I am the master of predictions.
 
Is the Utah Raptor a predator or a scavenger?

I'd put money on the carnivore to win against the omnivore, generally. Unless the carnivore wasn't a predator.
 
Grizzly Adams could fight any member of the Toronto Raptors any day of the week.
 
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