Van01 - A Newbie Hope

[stuge]

When we go to war, we should keep every city that has mature cottages around it. I.e, most of them.

 

[dawn]

Roster
1. Pigswill
2. Vanor - Just played
3. Splime - Up
4. Dawn - On deck
5. glenmetz
6. stuge

 

[pigswill]

Might be worth building a pike to add to the stack. We could be optimistic and add some garrison units and replacement trebs as they wear out. Half a dozen trebs and we should be good to go.

Any thoughts on detailed invasion plan for Russia? (i.e. which cities in which order). Do we want to ask Fred to join in?

 

[Vanor]

Well for what it's worth, which isn't much.

The stack is near Yekaterinburg, so we could start there and move north up the coast. However I think I'd be more inclined to start at Yakutsk and move east from there to Moscow and head north east from there, then circle back on St. Petersburg.

 

[Splime]

I'm definitely not going to have the time to play now, so I request a skip.

 

[dawn]

Got it. Will try to play either late tonight or tomorrow night.

After building a few pointy stick dudes, are settled on going to war this turn? I like the idea starting in the south and moving north through Cathy. This gives us the option of bringing Freddy in from the north side, causing a two front war for her.

 

[Vanor]

After building a few pointy stick dudes, are settled on going to war this turn?

This one or next depending on if you think you have enough troupes or not. Either way Glenmetz should get a chance to swing his club around some which he wanted to do.

 

[dawn]

Well, just got home and have to pack for an impromptu business trip tomorrow. Apparently someone thinks my expertise is needed.

I need to spend some family time tonight (so I have one to return to) and won't be back until late Friday night, so glenmetz it's all yours if you can take it.

 

[glenmetz]

I guess its all me then. Can't play tonight, will tomorrow. If we are ready for war, I'll start some stomping.

 

[glenmetz]

Fire it up and get going, health is becoming a problem as noted below

Turn 2 (1305)-Hadrumetum finishes a Con Mon and rushes a Duct
Turn 3 (1310)-Utica completes a Trebuchet and whips a Duct
Turn 4 (1315)-Hadrumetum Duct->Trebuchet
Turn 5 (1320)-Utica Duct->Trebuchet
Hippo Trebuchet->Duct
Turn 6 (1325)-Mayapan Trebuchet->Forge
Sojournor Truth is born in Carthage, send her up to Mutal

I miss some stuff in here as well, sorry folks

Turn 7 (1330)-Carthage Colusseum->The Parthenon (Big plans for Carthage here)
Sojournor completes the Temple of Solomon in Mutal

Turn 8 (1335)Guilds in, Tech to GUNPOWDER
Forces are ready, upgraded 2 Spears to Pikes

Turn 9 (1340)Joao cancels our deal for Sugar, I ask him to give it to us and he does

Turn 10 (1345)-Conveniently Freddie declares on Cathy, and we DOW as well

Turn 11 (1350)-Joao offers Banana for Corn, I accept

Turn 12 (1355)-2 of our Chariots take out Chariots, our stack is outside of Yekaterinburg

On the IBT we take Collateral on 15 units, but our Maces kill 3 Cats

Turn 13 (1360)-Bombard with 3 Trebuchets to soften defenses, but still need to attack another turn to weaken their units

Whip The Parthenon in Carthage

Turn 14 (1365)
Carthage Parthenon->Notre Dame
Mayapan Forge->Trebuchet
3 of our Trebuchets survive (1 falls), and both of our Cats survive
Mace kills a LB
Mace kills an Axe
Mace kills a Chariot
Num Cav kills a Chariot x2
Pike kills an Axe
Pike kills a Sword
Chariot kills a Horse Archer
Sword kills an Axe
And it finally falls. I keep it for now if only for our men to have a place to heal up for a few turns. The only resource this city gives us is Incense which we will pick up in the russian core. I set it to build Research for now (its not building anything as its in revolt) and we can decide to keep it our not. I say dump it, its surrounded by plains. It does have a Monument, Granary, and a Courthouse.

Turn 15 (1370)
Utica Trebuchet->Forge
Mutal Jewish Temple->Market
A source of Gems are discovered near Utica, and they are already online, GREAT!!!!

Turn 16 (1380)
Hippo Duct->Forge

Turn 17 (1385)
We enter the Renaissance Era, and I SWEAR BTS JUST FREAKING CRASHED ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, now I'm pissed

 

[stuge]

Can you locate an autosave?

 

[glenmetz]

I have one from 1380AD, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit last night when this all happened and didn't want to deal with it.

Does everyone agree with dumping Yaketerinburg? It also has 5 unworkable tiles in its fat cross. The only thing its really doing is cutting off Russias 2 junkie southern cities from her core? Let me know folks, and I'll finish this up tonight, maybe play another 8 or 13 turns.

 

[cabert]

lurker's comment: An autosave from 1380 seems right.

I can't believe you built the Great Library after 1000 AD

 

[stuge]

Dump Yekaterinburg.

 

[glenmetz]

I just had a revelation, you can't abandon a city in Civ IV. Ooops, maybe I should gift it over to on of our weaker opponents, or gift it back to Cathie, capture it again and raze it?

 

[stuge]

Don't bother with juggling the city. Just keep it.

 

[glenmetz]

1385-Yaketerinburg stops revolting, starts work on a Market
Stack is closing in on Orenberg to Raze it

1390-Gunpowder in, Research to Banking
Mayapan Trebuchet->Knight
A Num Cav takes out a Russian Cat

1395-Freddie and Cathie kiss and make up
The Siege of Orenburg
Trebuchet x2 Bombards (Defenses down to Zero)
We loose a Trebuchet to a LB, but our 2 Cats survive
Mace kills Horse Archer (x3)
Num Cav kills LB (x2) and

We burn that puppy to the ground
We get a random event about the people fleeing to the russian capital to form partisan resistance units.

1405-I poison the water in Novgorod
A Mace kills a Cat

1410-Hadrumetum Trebuchet->Grocer
Mayapan Knight->Knight
A Great General is born, I send him to Utica for an Academy
A Mace takes out a Chariot near Yaketerinburg
We lose a Sword to a Cat in the same spot
We lose a Mace to a Cat (unbelievable), but a Num Cav cleans it up for us

1415-We lose the Num Cav
Another Num Cav kills a Cat
Whip the Forge in Utica and Join the Great General

1420
Utica Forge-Mace
We lose 2 units, but we take out 4 more Russian units

1425
We have an awful IBT as Russia throws her full force at us and we lose 7 units to her 2, our stack is down to the following:
3 Mace
1 Sword
1 Pike
2 Cats
3 Trebuchets
1 Num Cav

It's definately time for a discussion here, but I think we are best off making peace. I've left it up to whomever is up next, its at the end of the turn.

Banking is in next turn. Enjoy.

The Save

 

[pigswill]

Had a look at the save. We're not doing that badly despite the poor outcome of the latest battle. Peace treaty will give us and Cat time to recover; or we could try for a ceasefire to get our units healed up and reorganised. Muskets will defend fine against crossbows so that ain't a huge problem.

 

[stuge]

I'll assess the situation and avoid doing anything weedy.

 

[Vanor]

We get a random event about the people fleeing to the russian capital to form partisan resistance units.

Any time you raze a city that happens I believe.

We have an awful IBT as Russia throws her full force at us and we lose 7 units to her 2, our stack is down to the following:

Ouch rotten luck there. But that's the way it goes some times.

Other then that it looks like a good turn set.