Van01 - A Newbie Hope

[Splime]

I've played 5 turns, and come to a major decision: We now have a great Prophet. The tech he can research is Polytheism. He can also start a Golden Age, or found a Confucian Shrine. I'm leaning towards the shrine myself, but thought I should check w/ the team first.

The save, for reference: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59830/Prince_Vanor_BC-0625.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[pigswill]

Shrine please

 

[glenmetz]

Shrine and spread that religion. The gold generated from it by the end of game is HUGE!!!!

 

[Splime]

OK, resuming now, will make a shrine.

 

[Splime]

Well, here's the summary:

Hadrumetum was founded, and began construction on a Chariot. Hadremetum was built one square south of the sign. We were then at -3 gpt, 100% sci.

A missionary from the founding of Confucianism appeared, and was sent to Carthage. In three turns, Carthage was about to grow, and become angry, so the missionary would deal with this.

In a barbarian attack, one Chariot was killed, but Utica was successfully defended. Chariots began to pour out of the cities now. Around this point, the copper got connected to the empire.

Then, we got a Great Prophet, and built Kong Miao. This set our gold at +0 gpt, 100% sci.

Throughout the course of the turnset, OB were declared with both Cathy and Joao. Speaking of Foreign relations, Pacal is kind of pissed that we're not Hindus.

Bandits attacked a field outside of Carthage, so we spent 10 gold to deal with them. Also, barbarians attacked our copper, but it was protected.

Eventually HBR was in, so research was set to Archery, in order to get our UU. Speaking of horses, at the moment, the odds for an unpromoted chariot to beat the archer in the barb city is 19%. Oh, and there's two archers there.

Carthage finished the first axeman, and began work on a settler.

Archery came in quickly, and so research was set to Math (as of now, we're only one turn in, so feel free to change).

Funny story on the last turn: Joao demanded that we switch to Hinduism. I refused, and then I see that tornadoes have destroyed stuff in Portugal. Looks like our gods really are better than theirs.

End Report:
- Settler in 5
- Math(s) in 10
- 1gpt, 100% sci
- 366 gold in the bank
- We have plenty of fogbusting chariots, which also explains the -1gpt.

The save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59830/Prince_Vanor_BC-0425.CivBeyondSwordSave

Roster:
1. Pigswill
2. Vanor
3. Splime (just played)
4. Dawn (up)
5. glenmetz (on-deck)
6. stuge

 

[dawn]

Got it. Will play at a decent hour today (just got back from a hockey game and going to catch some sleep).

 

[dawn]

Okay, played 5 turns and we got our settler in Carthage. Wanted some input before settling him.

Here is the save for reference:

 

[cabert]

carthage is unhappy. May I suggest whipping a confucianist temple there?

 

[Splime]

The place where the sign is seems alright, regardless of the lack of fresh water. The other good places seem quite a distance away.

Also, I'm thinking that since we have OB with everyone, we should get some missionaries out soon, to raise money. Also, the city after that should wait upon where the iron is.

 

[dawn]

carthage is unhappy. May I suggest whipping a confucianist temple there?

Yeah, I didn't adjust it while the settler was completing, but it will be whipped for a library (not shown). We can then control the population with a scientist.

 

[dawn]

Well, to keep the momentum going I went ahead and finished up the round.

IHT #145 425BC - Hadrumetum: switch to a granary build and do some MM to get a few hammers. Still a hammer poor location, but lots of food potential.

#146 410BC - building roads, farms, and busting fog.
#147 395BC - Utica: Axe -> library
#148 380BC - chariot defeats Barb warrior
#149 365BC - Pyramids BIDL (checking the Wonder page shows it was Germany).
#150 350BC - Carthage: settler -> library (will whip this).
- chariot defeats another Barb warrior.
Scouting Pacal finds these defenses:

#151 335BC - Lord McCauly says we're the most cultured civ. Was there any question about that??

#152 320BC - more exploring
#153 305BC - Hippo founded as noted above. Start archer.
#154 290BC - found Pyramids in Hamburg.
-whip the library in Carthage.
#155 275BC - Math -> Alpahabet
- mm Carthage for a scientist
#156 260BC - start road up to Hippo
#157 245BC -
#158 230BC - Carthage: Num cav -> num cav
#159 215BC - 2 x Barbs are closing on Hippo
#160 200BC - Freddy goes Hindu

Somethings to note:
* Archer barb at Hippo. We have an Axe and Num Cav on defense.
* Working building a road up to Hippo.
* Hadrumetum set for what hammers I could get. Granary will still take quite a while. Cottages going up all around it.
* Barb city is surrounded by chariots, but they can't take the city.

* Chariots are guarding the fog in the south. Don't forget to check on them.
* New Barb city in NW. Our chariot just defeated another warrior and will need to heal.

 

[dawn]

And here's the save:

And the roster:
Roster
1. Pigswill
2. Vanor
3. Splime
4. Dawn - just played
5. glenmetz - up
6. stuge - on deck

 

[glenmetz]

Won't be able to get to this tonight as I have a work function to attend for my girlfriend. That gives us some time to sit back and take a look at the next course of action. I will be playing tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

 

[Vanor]

Was just looking at the save.

I'd say go for construction next and maybe consider attacking Pacal? He's close and doesn't have many cities yet. So stack of axes, our UU and a few cat's should be enough to take him out.

 

[glenmetz]

Alright, research will head towards construction. I'll also get a stack together for Pacal. I may not be able to attack this turn set, but I'll have it ready for whoever is next. If I do attack, should I be capturing his cities or razing them?

Are we still on 20 turn sets?

 

[stuge]

We're kinda boxed in here with more or less sucky land, so attacking Pacal and keeping his better cities is definetly in order.

 

[Vanor]

Are we still on 20 turn sets?

15 turn sets actually.

 

[glenmetz]

Alright, playing now, update soon

 

[glenmetz]

Everything looks good, hit enter and go

IBT
Our Numidian Calvary defeats a barb Archer

185BC (1)
Our Axe in Hippo kills a barb warrior
Not much happens, just continuing to fog bust with units

170BC (2)
zzz

IBT
Utica Library->Worker (We really need this as we only have 2 workers) and I whip him

155BC (3)
zzz

IBT
Alpha in->Construction
Utica Worker->Barracks

140BC (4)
zzz

IBT
Carthage Num Cav->Barracks and a whip
Catherine converts to Hinduism

125BC (5)
zzz

IBT
Carthage Barracks->Stable

110BC (6)
zzz

IBT
We get a border pop in Hippo

95BC (7)
zzz

IBT
Catherine offers Sailing for Writing and I accept

80BC (8)
zzz

65BC-50BC (9-10)
zzz

IBT
Pacal comes and offers Iron Working for Maths and tell him to shove it (nothing like trying to stir the pot a bit)
Utica Barracks->Axe
Hippo Archer->Granary

35BC/20BC (11/12)
zzz

IBT
Catherine demands Maths and I deny her, she is now annoyed with us
Carthage Stables->Numidian Cav

5BC/10AD (13/14)
zzz

IBT
Utica Axe->Spear

25AD (15)
Nothing and thats it for me.

Nothing has changed really, produced a few more units and continue to fog bust. Didn't have the troops to take out any Barb camps. The following is amassing near our northern borders for the attack on Pacal:

1 Num Cav
2 Chariots
1 more Axe on its way

Construction in next IBT. Enjoy.

The Save

 

[Vanor]

Looks good

Here's the roster...

1. Pigswill - On Deck
2. Vanor
3. Splime
4. Dawn
5. glenmetz - Just Played
6. stuge - Up