Vassel State Question

[giddion]

Playing a small map with 11 players on emperor, no settlers and many other options enabled.

I have several barb cities near me and a few opponants.

Jonas, who I did not know nor could I see any border of, some how made Falamer his vassel on turn 43 and to make it worse, Falamer took control of onw of the barb cities right next to me. The city I was barb rushing.

Khazard did perish on turn 25 or so, which made the space.

I guess i just want to understand how that works and how can I do the same in the future?

 

[giddion]

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someone must be able to explain?

 

[Tugendbold]

well I could... but nah... I dont want to.

 

[xienwolf]

I always turn off Vassalage because it annoys me greatly. So I can't help ya one whit. Supposed to have a Tech Pre-req from what I recall though, so ought not to happen that early.

 

[frenzyslave]

I thought it required the tech Feudalism for vassal states. Must of been lucky village popping or a bug.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Feudalism is needed for vassals, excluding colonies.

I suspect that not allowing settlers may have given them an advantage. Rantine could have taken several barb cities, thus raising the Clan's score high enough to make other civs want their protection. Their Warrens could also have given them a military boost, also increasing their score and making other civs more likely to acquiesce.


I do wonder how this could happen so quickly though. Was this game starting in a latter age and/or with advanced start?

 

[Nonobots]

Could a late tech like feudalism be found in a graveyard?

 

[Demus]

Could a late tech like feudalism be found in a graveyard?

you can find bowyers in a graveyard, so i'd guess so. The clan's world spell allows them to find a lot of them aswell.

 

[giddion]

You are correct about Rantine, he did get created and it was only shortly after that when the Vassell appeared.

The starting tech was ancient.

 

[xienwolf]

Graveyards don't give you specific Techs, they work just like getting a Tech from a Goody Hut, it has to be one which you would be able to research at that moment.