VD: Vanilla Demigod

[plarq]

Turn 6:Zulu captured Kyoto with 2 wonders(ToA and SoZ)
IBT:Berlin Sword->Archer,Hannover Warrior->Court,Stuttgart Harbor->Lib.
Turn 7:See redlined Zulu Knight in Japan front.Our unit support is bad.I sell granary in Berlin.
IBT:Frankfurt Sword->Court,Nuremburg Sword->Lib.
Turn 8:Meet Japan,lacks Theology and Engineering,no trade.
IBT:Nothing.
Turn 9:Ottoman has Chivalry.Spot American Border.
IBT:Nothing.
Turn 10:Abe pops out his head,Up Republic and Chivalry.
The end result is 360AD.Our tech phase is better(Going to obtain a monopoly tech),but we lose our only iron,will obtain Education next time
Berlin is prebuilding for University,maybe it's too risky.Leipzig will complete FP with deficit food.
Our income in pathetic and units are way too much.Will we do another point sticky research?We can get Chivalry from Ottoman.PP gambit is on.
Change builds if you like,Tim.
Save

 

[TimBentley]

Got it. I'll either play tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

I will be away from the 13th to the 24th. Please autoskip me if I come up.

 

[Gato Loco]

Sorry I haven't been able to post recently. I'm getting over the flu and my head hurts too much to think straight. I've looked at the latest save and don't have much to say except that we should probably be building more units. We've got to declare war again soon before the Maya pull even farther ahead.

 

[plarq]

Incans are running away, but import iron from ours.
Mayans are strong,but down at least 2 tech of Inca.
Zulu is strong but tech level with Maya.
We don't want Incans to make territory gain against Maya anytime,especially for the GL(Chichen Itza) and iron (Also in Chichen Itza).

 

[plarq]

Any Progress Tim?

 

[TimBentley]

I'll finish tonight.

 

[TimBentley]

360(0)-Somehow we got on turn 151
Leipzig doesn't have to starve this turn
Give Konigsberg some more food
Fire specialist in Hannover
Fire specialist in Brandenburg, switch to worker
Wake up workers
Unsure about Sistine in Berlin, but I can switch it to temple

IBT-Leipzig FP->library
Konigsberg court->library
Bonn settler->court
America starts Sistine

370(1)-zzz

IBT-Inca declare war on Maya

380(2)-Sell theology to Ottomans for chivalry, 10gpt, 16g
Sell gems to Inca for 10gpt, 13g
kick science up a couple notches to get printing press in 7
Not comfortable about Sistine being available long enough, so switch Berlin to temple

IBT-Berlin temple->horse
Bremen harbor->library (want the whale, more water)
I guess I was right about Sistine, Cuzco builds it
Maya starts Leo's

390(3)-zzz

IBT-Inca start Smith's

400(4)-zzz

IBT-Leipzig library->horse

410(5)-zzz

IBT-Berlin horse->horse
Konigsberg library->temple
Nuremberg library->harbor
Cuello settler->trebuchet (feel free to change)
Salzburg library->court

420(6)-Found New Berlin, start on library
Meet Rome, they're down theology, up republic, have 1g

IBT-Stuttgart library->rax

430(7)-Found New Leipzig, start on library

IBT-Berlin horse->horse
Leipzig horse->warrior (for MP)
Cologne rax->court
Corihuayrachina builds Leo's

440(8)-zzz

IBT-learn printing press (a monopoly)
Leipzig warrior->warrior
Munich aqueduct->horse
Zulu start Bach's

450(9)-I'll stop here on an even date and let the next player handle the trades

Notes: Our peace deal with Maya ends next turn, if you want to do something there
Clearly Inca know astronomy, banking, and economics
Zulu seem to have a music theory monopoly
Maya have muskets, I suspect both Inca and Zulu know gunpowder
Maya and Inca don't know other continent other than Zulu; if you don't take advantage of selling the communications, Zulu will
You may want to save money for upgrades
Maya have captured Vitcos from Inca
Ottomans and America have some extra gpt

 

[plarq]

I think we'll punish Maya, but don't let Inca get iron.

 

[plarq]

After reading the save,our gems are dangerous if we declare on Maya,and if we turn "always renegotiate deal" OFF in preference,Smoke won't jump out for another 20 turns peace deal,since last peace is straight.And don't build warriors in our core,we have no money to upgrade them.I want to delay the chance to sell communication,I don't want AI(Esp. Inca) research skyrocket.

EDIT:shut off research,any time we want Inv,we can buy it from Maya using all our gpt,and boot him to declare war.

 

[TimBentley]

Inca know astronomy, so as long as they have a harbor the route should be safe (can't remember if they do, however). The warriors were only there as MPs to allow other units to get to the front. If you don't want to sell communications, make sure you don't sell printing press. And I agree with shutting off research; it's only on because I didn't bother turning it off.

 

[floydmcw]

Didn't get any email notifications for this thread and was wondering what happened. Nice job on the tech trading plarq and tim. Will play tonight.

 

[floydmcw]

I took a quick look at the save and have these questions:

Re: war: I don't know how strong the Mayans are in the peninsula. Is the goal purely to get a free tech by dealing with the Maya and then booting? Our army is weak and we won't have iron for four turns. On the other hand I can probably hold the Mayans off for four turns, then upgrade/prebuild some knights.

Should I trade Printing Press around?

Some cities are in flip danger and have units stationed next to them. If they do flip, am I supposed to declare war and retake the city? Or just slink off?

I missed building the FP in Liepzig. Are we going to jump the palace when we get a leader?

Tonight I'll view some of the previous saves and read the play logs more carefully.

 

[plarq]

If we can,we should trade Incans PP and Contacts for all his techs and money.
We can do a 2fer between Astro-Music.Even 3fer if Gunpowder.Communication is agreat deal of money.

 

[TimBentley]

I'll be gone until a week from Monday.

 

[floydmcw]

I played through 520. We got a bunch of techs, including Gunpowder from the Mayans for free as they declared war when I tried to boot.

But the Mayans are really tough. Dortmund had to be abandoned as did New Berlin.
Now they're rooting around Cologne. I just hope they'll talk to me before they do any real damage.

 

[plarq]

They've done real damage,until you raze several Mayan cities.But keep the Quirigua.

 

[plarq]

Do we lose gems in Heidelberg?one and cities riot,two and reputation is shot.

 

[floydmcw]

No, we are fine in Heidelberg. I waited till the spear moved off, and he wandered north. We've also kept that city guarded by a single warrior.

I won't be razing any Mayan cities soon, unless someone mods the save file to give me a few modern armor.

 

[plarq]

Modern Armor,is it tasty?FWIW,I'd prefer Nuke and Cavs.