Vietnam has interesting gameplay, but I doubt that AI will be able to handle city placement. I see Vietnamese cities in deserts and open plains without any specialized district.
So if a VC ends its turn on a wooded/rainforest hill tiles, without considering the movement bonus it will get next turn, it will get at least +11 on defense (+16 if it is in VN territory). And since you will put Encampments in every city, getting a GG by Medieval is almost guaranteed, raising that to +16 outside and +21 inside VN territory on defense, and none of these bonuses are far-fetched or hard to align with one another. And since this elephant is surprisingly nimble, it can weave in and out, (almost) ignore ZoC, innate tankiness compared to a standard Crossbow, wounded VCs can still attack and retreat, just trying to kill one of them sounds hilarious.
I guess Medieval and Renaissance VN will be impossible to crack. Unique crossbow that is impossible to kill, the entire territory coated in Woods slowing your advance and amping up damage against you, Encampments are encouraged to be put down everywhere... Maybe Byzantium can crack them. Or Babylon, if their Bombards can somehow blaze through the Woods to reach the City Center before getting shot down to oblivion by VCs and Encampments.
so what kind of secret society is best for Vietnam? I'd say Hermitic on a similar reason as Gauls... because of their wanky District placement and Ley lines can help boost District bonuses just a bit.
so what kind of secret society is best for Vietnam? I'd say Hermitic on a similar reason as Gauls... because of their wanky District placement and Ley lines can help boost District bonuses just a bit.
The Hobbit films occupy a unique space in that their very existence offends me. Unlike the LotR films (which I don't like either due to my great veneration for Tolkien, but I grant they were great films), they had no heart or love put into them. They were just soulless corporate CGI money-milkers.
I'm not sure if the bug where districts placed on bonus resources wouldn't remove them is still around, but I remember you were able to harvest these resources even after you put a district on top of them. Features don't seem to be removed when Vietnam puts districts on top of them so I wonder if the game would allow you to chop the features under the districts.
So is Lady Trieu the first leader we've had in recent installments, aside from Gandhi, who wasn't actually a sovereign ruler (or consort) of their civ? And how do we feel about this?
So is Lady Trieu the first leader we've had in recent installments, aside from Gandhi, who wasn't actually a sovereign ruler (or consort) of their civ? And how do we feel about this?
I don't feel really good but I will not argue against writings on the wall. Besides, Lady Trieu's chance of becoming a series stable for Vietnam is much smaller than Gandhi.
So is Lady Trieu the first leader we've had in recent installments, aside from Gandhi, who wasn't actually a sovereign ruler (or consort) of their civ? And how do we feel about this?
Don't care at all. I just don't get why people get so riled up over who leads what nation or what nations are in the game. They could have a different disney princess lead each nation and I'd only be slightly annoyed.
So is Lady Trieu the first leader we've had in recent installments, aside from Gandhi, who wasn't actually a sovereign ruler (or consort) of their civ? And how do we feel about this?
I'm actually okay with it but I guess we'll have to ask people who identify as Vietnamese if they agree. Isn't a symbolic leadership just as powerful as an official one?
I'm actually okay with it but I guess we'll have to ask people who identify as Vietnamese if they agree. Isn't a symbolic leadership just as powerful as an official one?
For the record, I think she's a really cool choice and totally in line with Firaxis' goal to choose leaders with personality who exemplify their civs' respective playstyles. They could have gone with Trung Trac instead for an actual sovereign, but that also would have had less personality.
Personally, I think that if we are going to have VI's design philosophy of choosing "personifications" of civs rather than cults of personality, I would prefer if we got more leaders like Lady Trieu. It makes for more engaging gameplay and exposes people to lesser known heroes from history.
I was just trying to read the room, since Gandhi gets so much backlash and technically Vietnam has a lot of actual rulers they could have selected from.
I was just trying to read the room, since Gandhi gets so much backlash and technically Vietnam has a lot of actual rulers they could have selected from.
better than going for one leader that everyone knows Ho Chi Mihn. No offense to him but he is just linked to the communist state of Vietnam too much. Vietnam is more than communist nation.
Would she have less personality? Both are folk heroes whose personal lives are not well known. I think Trung Trac would have had as much--and essentially the same--personality as Ba Trieu.
Well, Tundra has lots of woods, so that may be OK... I'm assuming Vietnam will have a pretty hefty rainfoest start bias (maybe woods too) but we'll see
Would she have less personality? Both are folk heroes whose personal lives are not well known. I think Trung Trac would have had as much--and essentially the same--personality as Ba Trieu.
I think Trung Trac could have had essentially the same personality, but that's not quite the same as having a catchy quote that practically necessitates it.
Also, something something more overt feminist representation.
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Unlike the LotR films (which I don't like either due to my great veneration for Tolkien, but I grant they were great films), they had no heart or love put into them. They were just soulless corporate CGI money-milkers. 
I get sick of people who complain that Fraxis only chooses a leader because "they need female quarter."
