[NFP] Vietnam Discussion Thread

[notNamed]

Why would he think she speaks with a southern accent when she's wayyyyy before when that becomes a thing?

It's usually healthy skepticism borne out of the fact most of the Vietnamese VAs available in the US would have learned Southern Vietnamese. Plus the narrator uses the southern ch when calling Trieu by name (Chiêu?). I.e. ty/ť/ть [c] instead of ch [t͡ɕ].
Though I don't think that will be the case here myself.

 

[Cerilis]

Sounds like we have quite a few vietnamese players here. :O Nice!

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Sounds like we have quite a few vietnamese players here. :O Nice!

This is why I love these forums. So many new things you learn from other people from the other side of the world.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

This is why I love these forums. So many new things you learn from other people from the other side of the world.

like me who is Korean-New Zealander currently living in Korea!

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

Why would he think she speaks with a southern accent when she's wayyyyy before when that becomes a thing?

It is just a bit easier to find an ethnically Vietnamese person living in North America with a Southern accent, I guess. I mean her capital is Thang Long, also pretty anachronistic anyway.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

It is just a bit easier to find an ethnically Vietnamese person living in North America with a Southern accent, I guess. I mean her capital is Thang Long, also pretty anachronistic anyway.

Just curious what would her capital be?

 

[anonxanemone]

like me who is Korean-New Zealander currently living in Korea!

I will confess that I am a Korean American who was in the States until yesterday, now Korea. My mandatory two week quarantine will be much bearable with the update in a few days

 

[notNamed]

Just curious what would her capital be?

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/vietnam-discussion-thread.666546/page-18#post-16006742
About the only thing to add to the writeup is that the very first independent capital was Hoa Lư, but at that point you're just shooting for the more cool sounding and important place. You are free to choose. And well, that fits Hanoi better.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

hang on... I thought Bà Triệu's prefered religion is a Buddhism?

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

At first she said "Ta là Triệu Trinh Nương [...] ta chào đón ngươi đến với Việt Nam [...]" which translates to "I am Lady Trieu Trinh [...] I welcome you to Vietnam". 'Nương' means 'lady'.

In the middle she says something about her armies and men and about their determination in protecting their homeland, probably to warn the invaders.

Near the end she says "Ta đã chờ ngày này từ rất lâu", meaning "I have been waiting for this day for so long". I guess that's her victory line.

YOU'RE A GOD! I finally got home and turned the volume on maximum and yes, she said the exact things you pointed out! I never figured this out before.
And I just realize Ba Trieu broke the record set by Lautaro to be the leader with the shortest lifespan in the Civ franchise (21 years).

 

[Andrew Johnson [FXS]]

YOU'RE A GOD! I finally got home and turned the volume on maximum and yes, she said the exact things you pointed out! I never figured this out before.
And I just realize Ba Trieu broke the record set by Lautaro to be the leader with the shortest lifespan in the Civ franchise (21 years).

So - to summarize (and you can wait until Thursday to answer) - are you hearing a Northern accent?

 

[Zaarin]

And I just realize Ba Trieu broke the record set by Lautaro to be the leader with the shortest lifespan in the Civ franchise (21 years).

Joan of Arc (Civ3) died at the age of 19.

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

So - to summarize (and you can wait until Thursday to answer) - are you hearing a Northern accent?

The sentence at the beginning of the video is dubitable, at first I thought it was Southern (which I was pretty upset at ) but then the last sentence "something something rất lâu rồi" (for a long time) is definitely, 100% northern.

Joan of Arc (Civ3) died at the age of 19.

Woahhh, I don't even know that she passed away that young! Thanks for telling me!

 

[hoaheo]

YOU'RE A GOD! I finally got home and turned the volume on maximum and yes, she said the exact things you pointed out! I never figured this out before.
And I just realize Ba Trieu broke the record set by Lautaro to be the leader with the shortest lifespan in the Civ franchise (21 years).

There are several interesting lines left that I couldn't figure out after many tries. Can't wait to listen to all of them.

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

There are several interesting lines left that I couldn't figure out after many tries. Can't wait to listen to all of them.

This is from a youtube comment. The birds (lạc birds, or chim lạc in Vietnamese) on her belt and the multi-pointed star on her leather armguards are the two signature patterns of the Dong Son Bronze culture, most famously known for their bronze drums.
A typical Dong Son bronze drum has patterns like this on its surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Son_culture
Shoutout to the art team of Firaxis. Didn't even see that coming.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

hang on... I thought Bà Triệu's prefered religion is a Buddhism?

On twitter Ed Beach said she has no preferred religion.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

On twitter Ed Beach said she has no preferred religion.

huh, weird. Vietnam CLEARLY has a majority religion.
Not that it matters to me- I'll always found Buddhism, when I am playing as Vietnam.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Eh, I found turtle religion.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Eh, I found turtle religion.

I just like to found religions that are historically accurate for the civ- one of the reasons why I LOVE historical religion mod

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Eh, I found turtle religion.

The Elephant would fit as well.