ViSa Maps

[Bastian-Bux]

Preytor, the incorporation of my planter mod will still need some more time, as mrGenie has to make a separate dll for this.

About the two european maps:

Just played the 3-cityradius one for several hours. Despite its small size (only 40x40) and my new RAM (now at 2 GB) i got a MAF in 1800 BC. ^^

So you have been warned.

 

[TAfirehawk]

Preytor, the incorporation of my planter mod will still need some more time, as mrGenie has to make a separate dll for this.

About the two european maps:

Just played the 3-cityradius one for several hours. Despite its small size (only 40x40) and my new RAM (now at 2 GB) i got a MAF in 1800 BC. ^^

So you have been warned.

The MAF fix is not a fix...and still not done....

Although we played well over 100 games on all speeds and all map sizes with maybe 1%-2% MAF's....and they could all be loaded and continue the game.

 

[Bastian-Bux]

^^, I'll try that.

But as it is the 1st of april today, I thought I'd give you a funny map as well:

European girly power!

AND HEEEEERE THEY COME.

In the center position nobody less then your royal highness the blody Mary-Theresa of Austria. With the highest battle weight she might prove an hard nut to break open, and in her age it should be hard to follow the old saying "you happy Austria marry".

But her contenders are young, fresh, and beautiful. Close by, just a hop over the Bosporus Theodora of Byzantium is waiting for her chance to grab all that belongs rightfully to the (east)roman-empire. Sitting on an almost endless pile of marble she will throw in some shiny dice as well.

On the opposite side of the ring a veteran of several fights, nobody less then Elizabeth of England waits for her chance to show those continentals how a real lady spices up the fight. Well, lets hope she doesn't follow english cooking traditions.

Another heavy hitter is found in the upper right corner. Catherine of Russia, who nobody calls "russian mischka" twice. Having access to seemingly endless forests, who knows what she has under her skirt?

And last but not least, her christian highness, domesticator of husband and andalusian muslims alike: Isabella, Queen of Spain.

Now, who's foolish enough to go for it? A whole (albeit small) continent is for the taking for the girl that has the power.

 

[Preytor]

Preytor, the incorporation of my planter mod will still need some more time, as mrGenie has to make a separate dll for this.

About the two european maps:

Just played the 3-cityradius one for several hours. Despite its small size (only 40x40) and my new RAM (now at 2 GB) i got a MAF in 1800 BC. ^^

So you have been warned.

Cool, thanks for the update man.
Looking very much forward to your release!

I'll just wait patiently with my ViSa3 and try some stuff out.
Thx for ViSa 3 too TAfirehawk and team!!

 

[Bastian-Bux]

A new map just arrived. It my v1.00 of the Giant Earth map for ViSa.

It can be found here.

Be warned though: its 200x80, 30 civs. you'll learn to hate MAFs even given the workaround. ^^

Any suggestions are welcome. If you somehow manage to get into the genetic era, please tell me if it needs more sea resources (I might add a few hundred more ^^).

PS: All of the maps I make from Giant Earth will be downloadable for now from that link, as not to clutter this thread. Once I figured out how to place the maps on the ViSa page, they'll go there.

 

[TAfirehawk]

A new map just arrived. It my v1.00 of the Giant Earth map for ViSa.

It can be found http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=212953.

Be warned though: its 200x80, 30 civs. you'll learn to hate MAFs even given the workaround. ^^

Any suggestions are welcome. If you somehow manage to get into the genetic era, please tell me if it needs more sea resources (I might add a few hundred more ^^).

Is it just me or is that link garbage?

 

[Bastian-Bux]

TAFireHawk: fixed ^^

 

[Preytor]

Thanks man!!

You guys F#$%# ROCK!!

 

[HitAnyKey]

Could someone explain the SmartMap for ViSa? What it is, what it does, and how to use it? I know I saw something somewhere about it, but I can't find it anymore and I don't even know where to unzip it to after downloading it from the ViSa website.

 

[Bastian-Bux]

Sorry for my long absence. We relocated. And while it was only 400m as the bee flies, Deutsche Telekom needed 2 weeks (and an angry reminding) to relocate our telephone and internet connection.

As soon as I have back my working desc, I'll start work on the maps again.

Btw, good news for all freaks: I've got 3 GB RAM and a nice 22" TFT now, so maps can only get bigger'n better. ^^

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Sorry for my long absence. We relocated. And while it was only 400m as the bee flies, Deutsche Telekom needed 2 weeks (and an angry reminding) to relocate our telephone and internet connection.

As soon as I have back my working desc, I'll start work on the maps again.

Btw, good news for all freaks: I've got 3 GB RAM and a nice 22" TFT now, so maps can only get bigger'n better. ^^

Good to have you back at work on the maps - hope the paint dried on your desk - as i know you just repainted it.

 

[Conqueror Worm]

I would like to suggest that a map maker adapt the pantastic worlds earth map to visa. It is a beautiful, huge world map, but not nearly so large as the giant earth that has already been adapted by bastain-bux, yet considerably larger than the other earth map by strategyonly.

I find it to be a great map for my 3200, 2000 ram machine - no ctds, but still large enough to dream on.

Thanks

 

[Raider62]

Have tried using smartmap but the maps it builds lag. When we just use the stock maps its fine. Any idea's?

We are keeping it at the regular size and not oversizing it or anything. We just like the variety of choices smartmap offers and wish we could use it without lag.

 

[TAfirehawk]

Have tried using smartmap but the maps it builds lag. When we just use the stock maps its fine. Any idea's?

We are keeping it at the regular size and not oversizing it or anything. We just like the variety of choices smartmap offers and wish we could use it without lag.

We don't really work on or support any maps....no idea why it would lag but it must be adding something that is causing loops in the code to make enough slow down to notice, probably something not supported in ViSa.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Have tried using smartmap but the maps it builds lag. When we just use the stock maps its fine. Any idea's?

We are keeping it at the regular size and not oversizing it or anything. We just like the variety of choices smartmap offers and wish we could use it without lag.

I play the smartmap almost exclusivly and have noticed no problems of any nature. No idea what you may be encountering.

 

[Vader1025]

I've spent the better part of 3 hours looking for a huge Earth Map that works for Visa.
I see a few but NONE of them have America as a civ.
Where can I find one with America as a civ AND, hopefully, in the right area.
If there are none, how can I change an existing map to have America?
I LOVE Visa and Civ 4 but one thing I can't believe-about Civ 4 in general-is the lack of choice of Earth maps.

 

[Bastian-Bux]

By America you mean the US of A, right? Sorry, I'm always a bit missled by the oxymoron "civilization America".

About your question: severall of my map adaptions could easily have the "americans" added. All you have to do is replace a civilization with the Americans.

How to do so?

Download the Giant Earth map for ViSav3 linked in the first post of this thread.

Open it with the MS editor or any other simple txt editor.

Search for the following lines:

Spoiler :

BeginPlayer
Team=7
LeaderType=LEADER_Ostenaco
LeaderName=Ostenaco
CivDesc=Cherokee Empire
CivShortDesc=Cherokee
CivAdjective=Cherokee
FlagDecal=Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_Cherokee.dds
WhiteFlag=0
CivType=CIVILIZATION_CHEROKEE
Color=PLAYERCOLOR_CHEROKEE
ArtStyle=ARTSTYLE_SOUTH_AMERICA
PlayableCiv=1
MinorNationStatus=0
StartingGold=0
StartingX=169, StartingY=58
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GOVERNMENT, Civic=CIVIC_DESPOTISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LEGAL, Civic=CIVIC_BARBARISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LABOR, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBALISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_ECONOMY, Civic=CIVIC_DECENTRALIZATION
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_RELIGION, Civic=CIVIC_PAGANISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_EDUCATION, Civic=CIVIC_IGNORANCE
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_HEALTHCARE, Civic=CIVIC_SHAMANISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GENDER, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBAL_FAMILY
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer

Replace them with the americans, like:

Spoiler :

BeginPlayer
Team=7
LeaderType=LEADER_WASHINGTON
CivType=CIVILIZATION_AMERICA
StartingX=169, StartingY=58
PlayableCiv=1
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer

Then look for thiose lines further up:

Spoiler :

BeginTeam
TeamID=7
Tech=TECH_HUNTING
Tech=TECH_MINING
ContactWithTeam=7
RevealMap=0
EndTeam

And replace them with:

Spoiler :

BeginTeam
TeamID=7
# Tech=TECH_SO_CALLED_INTELLIGENCE_ERROR
# Tech=TECH_WAR_MONGERING
# Tech=TECH_INVASION
# Tech=TECH_ANY_OTHER_TECH_NEEDED_FOR_YOUR_MOD
Tech=TECH_ACRICULTURE
Tech=TECH_FISHING
ContactWithTeam=7
RevealMap=0
EndTeam

Save, load from that map directly, and voila. You might have to adjust the coordinates of the start a bit (Cherokee starting position is a bit to the west of Washington DC), maybe something around

StartingX=172, StartingY=58

Another way would be, if there are unused slots left, to add the civ there instead of replacing. In the map mentioned above this isn't possible though, as only 30 civs are acceptable.

This way should work for all maps and civs, thats why I posted this instead of doing the adaptions for you . Plus most maps I made have no place for civs with a "rich history of 200 years" , given that Civ4 plays over 6000 years.

 

[Nitro_2985]

Bastian, the when I start up a game with your giant earth map, it says that I've lost right away. I don't even get one turn.

 

[Vader1025]

By America you mean the US of A, right? Sorry, I'm always a bit missled by the oxymoron "civilization America".

About your question: severall of my map adaptions could easily have the "americans" added. All you have to do is replace a civilization with the Americans.

How to do so?

Download the Giant Earth map for ViSav3 linked in the first post of this thread.

Open it with the MS editor or any other simple txt editor.

Search for the following lines:

Spoiler :

BeginPlayer
Team=7
LeaderType=LEADER_Ostenaco
LeaderName=Ostenaco
CivDesc=Cherokee Empire
CivShortDesc=Cherokee
CivAdjective=Cherokee
FlagDecal=Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_Cherokee.dds
WhiteFlag=0
CivType=CIVILIZATION_CHEROKEE
Color=PLAYERCOLOR_CHEROKEE
ArtStyle=ARTSTYLE_SOUTH_AMERICA
PlayableCiv=1
MinorNationStatus=0
StartingGold=0
StartingX=169, StartingY=58
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GOVERNMENT, Civic=CIVIC_DESPOTISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LEGAL, Civic=CIVIC_BARBARISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_LABOR, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBALISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_ECONOMY, Civic=CIVIC_DECENTRALIZATION
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_RELIGION, Civic=CIVIC_PAGANISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_EDUCATION, Civic=CIVIC_IGNORANCE
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_HEALTHCARE, Civic=CIVIC_SHAMANISM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GENDER, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBAL_FAMILY
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer

Replace them with the americans, like:

Spoiler :

BeginPlayer
Team=7
LeaderType=LEADER_WASHINGTON
CivType=CIVILIZATION_AMERICA
StartingX=169, StartingY=58
PlayableCiv=1
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer

Then look for thiose lines further up:

Spoiler :

BeginTeam
TeamID=7
Tech=TECH_HUNTING
Tech=TECH_MINING
ContactWithTeam=7
RevealMap=0
EndTeam

And replace them with:

Spoiler :

BeginTeam
TeamID=7
# Tech=TECH_SO_CALLED_INTELLIGENCE_ERROR
# Tech=TECH_WAR_MONGERING
# Tech=TECH_INVASION
# Tech=TECH_ANY_OTHER_TECH_NEEDED_FOR_YOUR_MOD
Tech=TECH_ACRICULTURE
Tech=TECH_FISHING
ContactWithTeam=7
RevealMap=0
EndTeam

Save, load from that map directly, and voila. You might have to adjust the coordinates of the start a bit (Cherokee starting position is a bit to the west of Washington DC), maybe something around

StartingX=172, StartingY=58

Another way would be, if there are unused slots left, to add the civ there instead of replacing. In the map mentioned above this isn't possible though, as only 30 civs are acceptable.

This way should work for all maps and civs, thats why I posted this instead of doing the adaptions for you . Plus most maps I made have no place for civs with a "rich history of 200 years" , given that Civ4 plays over 6000 years.

But look what we've done with the 200 years lol.
Anyway, thanks for explaining it this way because it offers a lot more flexibility now that I can do it myself.
I really appreciate it.

 

[Vader1025]

When I try to save it, it says I'm not "allowed" and I don't have "permissions."
Is this an artifact of Vista?