VQ-09 Alg Ore's Exploit

I wasn't sure either if I should have pulled the trigger on some trades. My gut told me yes, but I decided to wait to get input from the rest of the roster.

Another reason I went for Printing Press however, so that it should be another tradable tech...

I do think that we should do a little trading at this point. Getting Calendar and Engineering would be helpful at this point...
 
I'm back, but I'm going to stay skipped - makes rl easier for a few days. Trades are fine, we just can't receive any techs that aren't on the preset path to Fiber Optics. UNLESS the offered trade is a free gift. We won't turn down a gift horse
 
OK so here we go, lets start with a bit of MMing

Make Ulundi grow again, it has 3 spare :). Also start a granary in Nongona in favour of the lighthouse beeing build.

<Press Enter> *Chit I forget to look for trades*

So 1310 I check for trades and NO ONE has anything to give us, except poor Mansa who is beeing bullied by HC. Mansa is only willing to give us one tech at a reasonable price, IMHO, so I just take this one:

I also open borders so I can land the Explorer and start scouting around that land...

Offcourse getting Engineering shuts down our UU, which I only realize after the fact :(

1350 is a busy year at the palace as 2 new leaders come to visit our humble dwealings...

Alex, we all love to hate him. More so cause he has NOTHING to trade (from) us. Kublai on the other hand is lacking Paper and is proving himself to be a highway robber! No way I am taking that deal were we spend our entire live savings (sparing only 9gold).

While tracking thru Mansa land I notice he is at war with HC and (IIRC) Alex. HC has a nice gathering at Gao, one of Mansa's cities and he is bombing the defences... It should soon fall and sure enough a few turns later Mansa comes visiting asking us to join him against score leader HC.

Just the turn after, Alex (IIRC, it wasnt HC but the other guy not sure "the other guy" is Alex but I am 90% sure) asks us to join in. This time I say yes and we are at *phony* war with Mansa, scoring browny points with HC and Alex (again IIRC).
That very same year (1400, or actaully on the innerturn of 1390 so techincaly its 1390 I think) Gao falls to HC's forces.

I think to myself, Yay I made a right choice ;)

Then 1400 we have another *nucliar* visitor in our palace, it is the Korean leader Wan Kon.


Because I turned up science to 100% in 1380 we now have Calander (In hind sight we lost the cheapo Monuments, was this a good choice?)
But we find that Wan Kon is needing something. He is down Paper, Engineering and Optics. So I trade him....


We have one more AI to meet, which accoording to the map of Wan Kon should be Gandhi! Who is north of Wan Kon, we should meet him in 3 or 4 turns so we have the set compleet!

If we run 100% science we have -93gpt and Astronomy will take 17 turns. But we only have 485 in gold reserve...
At 50% running -14gpt, Astro will take 32 turns!

I started University of Sankore in Ulundi.
1) We have nothing much more to build there
2) We have absolutely N O use for it what so ever! We need the Money.

Maybe it would be smart to research Guilds before going for Astro, this would enable use to build Grocers and make our economy 25% more stronger.
On the other hand, Astro would open up traderoutes for us to others. Therefor help our economy immensly...

The world as we know it!

Notice the Judaist block of Alex and HC, for which we now are browning "mutual struggle" points!
Also notice the 2 "lost" cities of what looks like Mansa and Louis to the east (marked with white arrows)
WOW I just noticed this, Look at HC's capitol ! ! ! ! ! ! Size 23 allready ! *Geez*


The second (Budhist) island of Wan Kon and Gandhi. Notice the Confused religion also in Delhi!
Gandhi owns both Taoism and Buddism, Buddism should be netting him some nice gold presuming he has the shrine!

Lastly The save is here
 
Yes, we got circumnavigation (its in a screenshot), and Oz should be up now.
 
Yeah we got circumvention, it is in the screeny with Alex and Kublai. Just above the world map... I had to look for it too :blush:

I think I forgot to mention, I did bring my whip... in particular 1350 the emperor found it after the visit of the 2 strangers.

A granary in Nongoma
Coloseam in Bulawayo
Market in GunGunLova
Forge in Carib

That it really...
 
We are only 18 techs away from Alg's Promised Land and Astronomy is in 400 turns :eek:. Oh, we're at 0% research.

Education is no longer on our tech path if you click on Fibre Optics :confused:.

Anyway, I switch to Printing Press and press enter (the AI will research Astonomy, making it cheaper for us and PP they won't so good trade fodder).

We are the middle class of this SG!



Meet this fellow as well.



Pull this trade off, its the only tech on our path that the AI have. 17 to go.



Which opens up this trade. 16 to go. Besides, if we want someone else to build Uni of Sankore, we've got to let the AI have the tech!



As we have no foreign trade routes, I revolt to mercantilism.

Cha-CHING



A GE is born in Ulundi. He will burn some of Gunpowder, I leave him sleeping for the group to decide (I'd burn the baby)

Interesting.



I didn't do anything about this. Might be worth spreading for the :) from a temple at least.



Ramses has Astronomy, no-one has PP (we'll get it in 7 or so). Education, gunpowder and astronomy are out there as legal techs (even though we don't need Education.

Nobamba is unhappy, I'd let the colosseum finish and then whip up a bank or grocer. This is where Confucius landed.

I'd burn the GE for Gunpowder. We have no wonders enabled at the moment.

The Save

View attachment 141168
 
Education is on the original list - so its legal.

Oh and btw, the best military unit we'll have access to will be Artillery...(after cannons), so if we do get attacked, its going to be collateral damage!
 
Code: 
Network Working Group                                          GreyFox
Request for Comments: 9                                        Alg Ore
                                                       28 October 1550

                      World Trading Protocol (WTP)

1. Introduction

Although Banking establishment is established, we cannot do any trade
because there is either no tech that is allowed by the APRANET 
available, or we do not have something substantial for trade.

To recall, the following are the allowable tech as determined by the 
first APRANET meeting:

    * Fishing
    * Metal Casting
    * Iron Working
    * Mathematics
    * Monarchy
    * Compass
    * Calendar
    * Construction
    * Currency
    * Machinery
    * Engineering

GreyFox                  Standards Track                     [page 1]
Code: 
RFC 9                         WTP                      28 October 1550

    * Feudalism
    * Optics
    * Theology
    * Guilds
    * Paper
    * Banking
    * Printing Press
    * Education
    * Replacable Parts
    * GunPowder
    * Rifling
    * Astronomy
    * Chemistry
    * Scientific Method
    * Steel
    * Physics
    * Artillery
    * Electricity
    * Rocketry
    * Radio
    * Satellites
    * Computers
    * Fiber Optics

Figure 1 shows the current tech trade avialble.

GreyFox                  Standards Track                     [page 2]

vq09-AD1505-techtrade.jpg

Figure 1

Code: 
RFC 9                         WTP                      28 October 1550

2. Solution

To resolve this problem, we go towards the acquiring of Printing Press, 
and when that was successfully acquired, we traded the tech with
Mansa Musa, for Gunpowder and 200 gold (See Figure 2 and 3).

With Gunpowder, we proceed to sell it with printing press to Loius
for Education and a further 300g (see Figure 4).  This amount of
money will continue to fund the research effort of Alg Ore Corp.,
and is likely to enable us to learn Replaceable Parts.

Speaking of Replaceable Parts, the Alg Ore Corp. has an Engineer
that can devise a method to immediately boost research such that
we can learn it even faster. 

GreyFox                  Standards Track                     [page 3]

vq09-AD1530-printingpress.jpg

Figure 2

vq09-AD1530-Mansa-trade.jpg

Figure 3

vq09-AD1535-loius-trade.jpg

Figure 4

Code: 
RFC 9                         WTP                      28 October 1550

3. Other Trades

Apart from the tech trades, we are have also started to do resource 
trading in order to work better towards the building of the Internet.
These trades are shown in Figure 6 and 7.

We have also put up our maps for sale, which earn us 100g each from
HC and Alex (see Figure 8 for HC).

GreyFox                  Standards Track                     [page 4]

vq09-AD1535-Gandhi-trade.jpg

Figure 5

vq09-AD1545-ramesses-trade.jpg

Figure 6

vq09-AD1545-worldmap.jpg

Figure 7

Code: 
RFC 9                         WTP                      28 October 1550

4. Security Considerations

It s a big risk trying to run the WTP, as can be seen in Figure 8, there 
has been a breach in network domain.

Further, our power rating has been declining (see Figure 9).  
Fortunately, our relationship has been good (Figure 10), which might
have deterred other security breaches. 

It is, however, our recommendation that vendors start installing
musketman for better protection.

5. Running Code

A reference implementation of the WTP can be found in the followg
attachment: [url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/76783/VQ09-AD-1550.CivWarlordsSave]WTP (Ver 1.02-Beta)[/url].  See Appendix A for a detailed 
documentation of the WTP.

GreyFox                  Standards Track                     [page 5]

vq09-AD1545-egypt-city.jpg

Figure 8

vq09-AD1550-power.jpg

Figure 9

vq09-AD1550-relations.jpg

Figure 10

Spoiler Appendix A :

1500AD (0)
Nongoma is unhappy ... whip when cost is 2
MM'd Ulundi & Bulawayo to work on more coastal tiles
raise research to 100%
whipped colosseum at Nobamba

1505AD (1)
Nobamba: Colossuem > Chariots
Can't trade anything with Banking.

1510AD (2)
Nobamba: Chariot > Market

1515AD (3)
Ulundi: Bank > Chariot

1520AD (4)
Ulundi: Chariot > Grocer
KwaDukuza: Bank > Grocer
Nongoma: whip library

1525AD (5)
Nongoma: library > Forge
Ndondakusuka: Lighthouse > harbour

1530AD (6)
Research: Printing Press > Gunpowder
Ondini: forge > library
Trade(Mansa): Printing Press > Gunpowder + 200g
Research: Replaceable Parts

1535AD (7)
Trade(Gandhi): Wine for 8gold
Trade(Gandhi): Deer for Silver
Trade(Louis): Gunpowder + Printing Press > Education + 300g

1540AD (8)

1545AD (9)
Trade(HC): World Map > 100g
Trade(Alex): World Map > 100g
uMgungundlov: Grocer > university
Trade(Ramesses): deer > 6gpt
 
had to look back a bit to find the roster, but I figure I am up. I had to do another double check to find the save... Oh, it's there alright... not quite as hidden as in the code last time :)

Got it.
 
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