VQ02 - Predetermined City Placement

[eektor]

"I don't care, that's Lord Eektor's problem, not Mine!"

This is my got it and since its too late to start I'll be playing tomorrow.

Well I'll concentrate on spreading religion especially Buddhism because that's our state religion.

Oh wow that barbarian city is in the perfect spot for our city. Too bad we haven't finished the tier to be able to keep that city.

I think I need advice on what to do, since GreyFox killed all my advisors again. Guess I better start the interviews.

 

[GreyFox]

Can we relax our variant a bit ... instead of only one city on each side for tier 3, how about combining teir 3 and tier 4? That will allows us to keep the barb city.

* duck eggs and darts and other objects thrown by VQ members *

Ok, relax! Cool it, its just a suggestion!!!

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[oldbustedjorn]

No Comment.


(Seriously though, I don't think the tiers were fully explained past tier 2 in the beginning of the SG - therefore, I don't have a problem combining the tiers, its not REALLY a violation of the rules IMO)

 

[GreyFox]

@ oldbustedjorn ... are you by any chance a lawyer in RL?

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[Maquis]

Ok, in the interest of... um... player relations... I will allow this. The barb city is in the perfect spot to keep. We can settle the two spots remaining in the west.

(I just can't pass up the possibility of taking that barb city in the perfect spot...)

 

[oldbustedjorn]

are you by any chance a lawyer in RL?

I wish - I could have probably been one, but the whole "computer-are-cool" syndrome got me in highschool. 23 isn't too old to go back to school, is it?

/rant

 

[GreyFox]

Its never too ol;d to go back to school ....

back on track ... Oh, great, the rules are relaxed ... tier 3 is 3 cities N, S, E, W each ... right? Too bad Gandhi has already taken the SW site ...

But got to wait till the barb city grows to 2 before taking it ... um ... on second thought, don't need to ... we have two settlers siting there idling ... Would that be allowed by the modified variant?

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[bobrath]

I'm confused...

That map seems to imply that we do control the barb city.... wassup wit dat?

 

[bobrath]

and my interp on the variant is that if a city fits into our "grid" then we should be ok with keeping it even if it doesn't fit the current level... So if a barb (or other civ) is enlightened enough to place a city where we would put it... then we can keep it.

 

[GreyFox]

Hmmm ... now, i don't understand the cultural map too ... strange ... perhaps because barb has no culture, so they borrow the nearest civ's culture???

And I like your interpretation of the variant ...

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[oldbustedjorn]

I don't mind that interpretation of the variant either. Get those settlers out, and then we could attack freddie if we wanted for more cities.

 

[eektor]

Umm based on the last map I've seen, I don't see any open spots for new cities, unless we are thinking of settling up north. Where am I supposed to send the settlers out to?

@bobrath - I really like your interpretation of the rules.

@oldbustedjorn - you're not too old to go to school. I'm studying in college and I'm 25.

 

[GreyFox]

@eektor: you can raze the barb city and settle in its place, don't have to wait for it to grow to 2. Sometimes barb city under siege does not grow ...

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[oldbustedjorn]

Wrong thread lol.

 

[oldbustedjorn]

Grrr - I need sleep!!

 

[eektor]

Sorry this is late.

Preturn: 1500 AD

I will not take the barbarian city until it is at population 2. I feel its against the rules for our variant to have that city autorazed and then put a settler there. So my military units will be stationed there til it grows one more point.

Turn 2: 1510 AD

Nationalism discovered. I decided to head to Liberalism and started researching Paper.

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Turn 3: 1515 AD

I made peace with the Americans. I got 20 gold from the deal.
Rome starts building the Taj Mahal. I thought it was important to build this wonder for the GA and the +10 culture it gives.

Turn 5: 1525 AD

English declared war. Uhoh. This could be trouble.
Paper discovered. I started researching Education. Universities would be great for our science and culture.

Turn 6-10: 1530 – 1550 AD

Heavy fighting breaks out against the English. Unfortunately the war was unexpected and their knight units have done some pillaging in our areas. I have tried to keep losses at a minimum while trying to stop them from pillaging too much of our area. The border towns are all producing pikemen to kill the knights. I saw one gunpowder unit so watch out they might start sending more musketmen.

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After turn comments:

The war was unexpected and I think I did a poor job trying to repel the invasion. I’m sorry about that. Vicky refuses to talk and our two allies Gandhi and Cyrus doesn’t want to get involved.

I tried to concentrate on spreading religion and building cultural buildings. Confucianism and Hinduism is in 9 cities, so we are set to build the 50% culture building (I forgot the name of it) in our 3 cultural cities once we have the 9 temples up. I got Buddhism in 4 cities. Unfortunately when I sent a missionary to Rome it didn’t spread. Try to spread it to Rome quickly so the 25% bonus will apply to the Taj Mahal.

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The barbarian city has yet to grow and right now Gandhi has some troops next to ours. I think that barb city is going to be razed soon and we won’t be able to keep it for our empire.

Spoiler :

Turn 210 (1500 AD)
Rome grows: 13
Rome finishes: Hindu Missionary
Antium finishes: Hindu Monastery
Kalidas (Great Artist) born in Antium
Cumae finishes: Catapult
Ravenna grows: 10
Setia grows: 3
Buddhism has spread: Ravenna
Horse Archer defeats (3.84/6): Barbarian Longbowman

Turn 211 (1505 AD)
Rome begins: Hindu Missionary
Antium begins: Hindu Missionary
Cumae begins: Hindu Temple
Hinduism has spread: Neapolis
Rome finishes: Hindu Missionary
Pisae finishes: Longbowman
Ravenna finishes: Pikeman

Turn 212 (1510 AD)
Rome begins: Confucian Missionary
Pisae begins: Confucian Missionary
Ravenna begins: Buddhist Monastery
Rome begins: Hindu Missionary
Hinduism has spread: Pisae
Tech learned: Nationalism
Rome finishes: Hindu Missionary
Antium grows: 12
Antium finishes: Hindu Missionary
Arpinum finishes: Forge
Setia finishes: Courthouse

Turn 213 (1515 AD)
Research begun: Paper
Rome begins: The Taj Mahal
Antium begins: Hindu Missionary
Arpinum begins: Buddhist Missionary
Setia begins: Library
Hinduism has spread: Ravenna
Pisae grows: 10
Pisae finishes: Confucian Missionary
Arretium's borders expand

Turn 214 (1520 AD)
Pisae begins: Hindu Temple
Hinduism has spread: Arpinum
Antium finishes: Hindu Missionary
Ravenna finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Arretium finishes: Hindu Monastery
Arpinum finishes: Buddhist Missionary

Turn 215 (1525 AD)
Antium begins: Walls
Ravenna begins: Buddhist Missionary
Arretium begins: Confucian Temple
Arpinum begins: Buddhist Missionary
Buddhism has spread: Neapolis
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Tech learned: Paper
Cumae finishes: Hindu Temple
Neapolis finishes: Globe Theatre
Arpinum grows: 11
Setia grows: 4
Pikeman loses to: English Knight (3.70/10)

Turn 216 (1530 AD)
Research begun: Education
Cumae begins: Pikeman
Neapolis begins: Buddhist Temple
Antium finishes: Walls
Ravenna finishes: Buddhist Missionary
Arpinum finishes: Buddhist Missionary
Circei grows: 3
Circei finishes: Walls

Turn 217 (1535 AD)
Antium begins: Pikeman
Ravenna begins: Pikeman
Arpinum begins: Confucian Temple
Pikeman defeats (1.68/6): English Knight
Praetorian loses to: English Pikeman (3.48/6)
Praetorian defeats (6.56/8): English Pikeman
Maceman defeats (0.32/8): English Catapult
Confucianism has spread: Circei
Hinduism has spread: Circei
Pikeman promoted: Combat I
Pikeman defeats (3.96/6): English Knight
Buddhism has spread: Antium
Circei begins: Pikeman
Antium finishes: Pikeman
Pisae finishes: Hindu Temple
Maceman loses to: English Knight (10.00/10)

Turn 218 (1540 AD)
Antium begins: Pikeman
Pisae begins: Pikeman
Pikeman promoted: Combat I
Pikeman loses to: English Knight (7.80/10)
Pikeman promoted: Combat I
Pikeman defeats (3.96/6): English Knight
Neapolis grows: 11
Neapolis finishes: Buddhist Temple
Pikeman loses to: English Knight (4.90/10)
Pikeman defeats (4.08/6): English Knight

Turn 219 (1545 AD)
Neapolis begins: Hindu Temple
Pikeman promoted: Combat I
Pikeman promoted: Combat II
Antium finishes: Pikeman
Cumae finishes: Pikeman
Ravenna finishes: Pikeman
Arpinum finishes: Confucian Temple

Turn 220 (1550 AD)
Antium begins: Pikeman
Cumae begins: Pikeman
Ravenna begins: Pikeman
Arpinum begins: Hindu Temple
Pikeman defeats (6.00/6): English Knight
Catapult promoted: Barrage I

 

[oldbustedjorn]

Wow - didn't see that one coming. I can't imagine why vicky doesn't like us (we only razed ONE of her cities - relax!)...

It seemed you did fine. I'm in a private prince game and I had Roosevelt to pleased, with not ONE negative point. I wasn't that far ahead, there were no def packs, and we didn't even border him - and he STILL attacked me. Monty, Toku, and Nappy in that situation wouldn't even get a sigh out of me - but roosevelt?

You didn't lose any cities so I would worry too much. We just need to keep our border cities well defended with a variety of units.

What about switching to free religion when we can? We'll have all our cities converted by then and I think we get more culture by going free - is that correct?

 

[GreyFox]

Geez .... Vicky has chosen unwisely ...

On hindsight, Washy did a good thing declaring on us with his phony war ...because that get's us cranking our pikemans ... else it could be a lot worse when Vicky declared ...

Good call on the Taj Mahal ... its quite an important wonder. But we may have competition, as AI usually targets this wonder as well.

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[oldbustedjorn]

Oh, am I up?

Got it. Will try to play tonight - tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

 

[oldbustedjorn]

I'm playing now - BTW, I thought we decided we could settle any where in tier three or four? If thats the case, I can settle even if the barb city is razed.